I_know_nothing
New Member
even brother @dmt31 's labmax of watson test C (i know it's not e but still) was not as good as the MCT oil.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Difference between GSO and MCT Test E 250mg Labmax
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boodecarlo
Member
Yea but they have been put through the ringer for a bad LM. I'm not saying that's why they left but I remember them being called every name in the book because of it. I'm curious how many of the sources knew this & used it to show a positive LM to get more fish on the hooks?
I_know_nothing
New Member
exactly, this discovery, along with the blood levels discussion in dmt's HPLC/Mass spec post in this lab testing section could change the way we view testing. there's obviously things we thought we knew are were set in stone that are now being covered as possibly untrue
jonsal
New Member
I agree, guys have thrown gear in the trash, because of a "bad" labmax. Goes to show, bloods will be the only real determining factor in concentration.
Really surprised this had not been discovered before, although I am glad I came across it and hope this helps somehow.
Really surprised this had not been discovered before, although I am glad I came across it and hope this helps somehow.
boodecarlo
Member
Yea brother that was a great catch.
I_know_nothing
New Member
it's a great discovery brother, im really grateful you did this. like i said, this is eye opening.
bloods too though, we shouldnt be sticking with a hard 10x rule. i have argued for a bigger range and @BIGMESC has discussed maybe peak levels are too hard to catch and instead we should be looking at nadir levels. further more dr. jim has suggested that the 10x rule does not apply when users are running AI and/or hcg.
boodecarlo
Member
Now the cats out of the bag I'm curious if we'll see a rise in LM results 
jonsal
New Member
There probably used to be a time where gains were the sign of good gear. Not labmax or bloods.
I_know_nothing
New Member
@jonsal i am curious brother...what does MCT with no hormone look like under UV with vial B? and what does MCT with say 20mg/mL test E look like?
I_know_nothing
New Member
true but gains took time, labmax is instant and bloods give numbers
I don't personally have a problem with them being put through the ringer. They should know what they are selling well enough to counter any questionable tests.
Good question about sources already knowing this, but then we haven't seen very many good LM results lately.
boodecarlo
Member
I totally agree, I doesn't bother me at all. If they can't deal with it that's their issue haha. It's our job to put them through the ringer.
I was thinking the same thing about the LM results lately. To say they've been shitty lately would be being kind
jonsal
New Member
While I haven't tested straight mct in vial b, it is completely clear under UV where gso has a kind of tint.
Bradly
Well-known Member
congratulations OP, thread of the year I think
curgen
New Member
I find this very interesting.
In a very short time, you've made a meaningful contribution to the forum, jonsal. Thanks for doing these tests and satisfying y(our) curiosity.
Now all we need is someone to independently verify these results.
In a very short time, you've made a meaningful contribution to the forum, jonsal. Thanks for doing these tests and satisfying y(our) curiosity.
Now all we need is someone to independently verify these results.
curgen
New Member
BTW, straight MCT oil does not fluoresce under UV light.
OdieM
Banned
Wow great find. I hope this info doesn't get into the wrong hands though.
jonsal
New Member
I have some test p that I brewed with mct at 100mg. I will test tonight.
dmt31
New Member
would you mind doing this real quick? just put some MCT in a vial and post up the results, that would be very very very good information to have.
