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kain said:
Here’s what I saw, maybe reading it wrong? Check out my protocol on SteroidPlotter.com

If you adjust decanoate to 250mg e7d, the plots are more similar.

And chat gpt response (not saying it’s right):

Testosterone decanoate and testosterone cypionate are both forms of testosterone, but they have different half-lives and pharmacokinetics, which means they are metabolized and cleared from the body at different rates.

- **Testosterone cypionate** has a half-life of approximately 8 days.
- **Testosterone decanoate** has a longer half-life, around 15 days.

To determine an equivalent weekly dose, we need to consider the total amount of testosterone delivered over a given period.

### Example Calculation:

Assume a common weekly dose for testosterone cypionate is 200 mg per week.

#### For Testosterone Cypionate:
- Weekly dose: 200 mg

#### For Testosterone Decanoate:
Given its longer half-life, you would typically administer it less frequently, but for comparison on a weekly basis:

1. **Determine the total dose over a period equivalent to the half-life**:
- Since testosterone decanoate has a half-life of about 15 days, you might typically dose every 2 weeks (14 days).

2. **Equivalent weekly dose**:
- To find the equivalent weekly dose, you need to account for the half-life difference. If you administer 200 mg of testosterone cypionate weekly, you should maintain the same average testosterone level with testosterone decanoate.

3. **Adjust for the half-life**:
- The total dose over 14 days would be 400 mg for testosterone cypionate.

Considering the longer half-life of testosterone decanoate, a similar weekly dose might be slightly adjusted to account for its extended release. Therefore, you might use a dose close to or slightly less than 400 mg every two weeks for testosterone decanoate, translating to an equivalent weekly dose of around 200 mg, though in practical terms, it might be closer to 180-200 mg per week.

### Summary:
For practical purposes, if you're using 200 mg of testosterone cypionate weekly, you might use approximately 180-200 mg of testosterone decanoate per week to achieve a similar level of testosterone in the body.

However, it's essential to consult with a healthcare professional before making any changes to medication regimens, as individual needs can vary based on specific health conditions and responses to treatment.
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im gonna come back to this when im fresh
 
Well manufactured the first batch tonight. Yes of coarse i screwed up a few things. First batch the stupid hot plate went from 50 degrees to 80 quick. i went ahead and mixed the hell outta it for a while but then went to thinking that it got to hot so i throught it out and started over. This time i managed the hot plate very slow. climbed it to 60 degrees and held it there for a while. inched it up to 65 and solution still didnt dissolve completely. at this point i added in the bb solvent and ill be dammed if the temperature didn't try to shoot up real quick. It never got over 70 so i figured it was a win. solution cleared added the BA drew up 50ml and started filtering. something happened and my filter came apart on the inside... maybe i had to much pressure. drew up the other 50ml and filter it just fine. so outta 200 ml and 36 grams of dope came out with 50ml of testc 300mg/ml! Really overall pretty simple process. maybe the first batch i through out would have been fine. i didnt want to chance it. @Heavy Iron i totally get what you are saying about going by sight and feel. I mean i see that the solution disolves and get clear very quickly at that just right point and no sense in going hotter past that point! Maybe a batch of test e tomorrow and then on to mast e next weekend. Thanks to all you guys for your input.
Peace
 
dirthand said:
So basically you would dose 5% higher on test d then test c? If you are running 500mg weekly testc and switched to test d you'd run 525mg really not much difference. Appreciate it!
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The only difference, as already mentioned, is slightly longer to saturate and higher saturation levels due to half life difference
 
dirthand said:
Well manufactured the first batch tonight. Yes of coarse i screwed up a few things. First batch the stupid hot plate went from 50 degrees to 80 quick. i went ahead and mixed the hell outta it for a while but then went to thinking that it got to hot so i throught it out and started over. This time i managed the hot plate very slow. climbed it to 60 degrees and held it there for a while. inched it up to 65 and solution still didnt dissolve completely. at this point i added in the bb solvent and ill be dammed if the temperature didn't try to shoot up real quick. It never got over 70 so i figured it was a win. solution cleared added the BA drew up 50ml and started filtering. something happened and my filter came apart on the inside... maybe i had to much pressure. drew up the other 50ml and filter it just fine. so outta 200 ml and 36 grams of dope came out with 50ml of testc 300mg/ml! Really overall pretty simple process. maybe the first batch i through out would have been fine. i didnt want to chance it. @Heavy Iron i totally get what you are saying about going by sight and feel. I mean i see that the solution disolves and get clear very quickly at that just right point and no sense in going hotter past that point! Maybe a batch of test e tomorrow and then on to mast e next weekend. Thanks to all you guys for your input.
Peace
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80C will not harm anything. Also, if your filter “busted” just refilter it again.
 
HereToTeachAndLearn said:
80C will not harm anything. Also, if your filter “busted” just refilter it again.
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Well in a couple of the vials where it busted there are quite a. It if floaters. Tou say they can be filtered out?? So I guess the first batch I through away would have been OK. You love and learn.. honestly I just want to get it right. I'll be trying this brew out monday morning. Also I am definantly gonna have to look Into a better filtering process. The whole caulking gun thing make the whole process feel like I'm making g meth In my. Buddy's cousins trailer.
 
dirthand said:
Well in a couple of the vials where it busted there are quite a. It if floaters. Tou say they can be filtered out?? So I guess the first batch I through away would have been OK. You love and learn.. honestly I just want to get it right. I'll be trying this brew out monday morning. Also I am definantly gonna have to look Into a better filtering process. The whole caulking gun thing make the whole process feel like I'm making g meth In my. Buddy's cousins trailer.
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Filtration Porn

I made this a while back. To be honest I stopped using a vacuum pump even though it's very efficient. But my son was a newborn back then and now I also have a daughter. So discretely (quietly) brewing with the pump is not ideal.

Now I use multiple brake bleeders and tubes. Give it a few squeezes and go back and check it every 30 mins or so. Filtering 1000 ml batches with 2 zapcap filters. Was pretty damn efficient.

If you're doing smaller batches you can always buy sterile media bottles, OPEN sterile vials, a pipette dispenser and sterile pipettes, as well as sterile stoppers. Flip top caps don't need to be "sterile" imo considering none of the contents of that piece are touching the solution. Just sanitized.
 
Heavy Iron said:
Filtration Porn

I made this a while back. To be honest I stopped using a vacuum pump even though it's very efficient. But my son was a newborn back then and now I also have a daughter. So discretely (quietly) brewing with the pump is not ideal.

Now I use multiple brake bleeders and tubes. Give it a few squeezes and go back and check it every 30 mins or so. Filtering 1000 ml batches with 2 zapcap filters. Was pretty damn efficient.

If you're doing smaller batches you can always buy sterile media bottles, OPEN sterile vials, a pipette dispenser and sterile pipettes, as well as sterile stoppers. Flip top caps don't need to be "sterile" imo considering none of the contents of that piece are touching the solution. Just sanitized.
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I have spoken to more than 1 big vendor who does not sterilize stoppers and caps. And order only RTF vials which cleanliness is not guaranteed If you've seen the trays they come in.

I think infections from this practice is near non existent. BUT I am terribly OCD about germs and the practices I follow brewing give me peace of mind personally. But definitely not required or we would be seeing mass infections often especially from the fly by night vendors like naps, pharmahgh, synergy, ect. All the inept brewers that go on paid forums with zero proof of any sterile environment
 
So the 50ml that I was gonna throw out because the whatsman filter came apart while filtering it. I warmed it back up.. I had some alternative filters that I use to refilter gear. I filtered it with one into a big vial. Sucked it back up and filtered it again into smaller vials now I am baking it all in the oven. Thing is the cheaper vials I have the flow rate was soooo much better and easier to filter the solution. What are the whatsman filters so hard to filter through, they are both .22
 
dirthand said:
So the 50ml that I was gonna throw out because the whatsman filter came apart while filtering it. I warmed it back up.. I had some alternative filters that I use to refilter gear. I filtered it with one into a big vial. Sucked it back up and filtered it again into smaller vials now I am baking it all in the oven. Thing is the cheaper vials I have the flow rate was soooo much better and easier to filter the solution. What are the whatsman filters so hard to filter through, they are both .22
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I hear you on whatmans being a pain in the ass to use hence people ditch syringe filters and use bottle top.

However, I got used to it lol. I even ditched the caulking gun because if I get impatient I will blow out a filter, hence, back to forearm pumping action.

Anyway, brewing 100-200ml can be done in less than 2 hours, so you can finish a blast or two worth of oil in a couple of hours.
 
nightprowler7 said:
I have spoken to more than 1 big vendor who does not sterilize stoppers and caps. And order only RTF vials which cleanliness is not guaranteed If you've seen the trays they come in.

I think infections from this practice is near non existent. BUT I am terribly OCD about germs and the practices I follow brewing give me peace of mind personally. But definitely not required or we would be seeing mass infections often especially from the fly by night vendors like naps, pharmahgh, synergy, ect. All the inept brewers that go on paid forums with zero proof of any sterile environment
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Yeah it's pretty wild. Especially for selling to the masses. I usually buy prewashed vials and still go through my process with my sterident dry heat sterilization. I give caps an alcohol bath and throw em in some heat to just dry.
 
Whatsman filters suck.. I am refilter again as I have a couple floaters inthe 50ml I filtered through the whatsman only. I guess I just expect it to go through faster and need to slow down and ease up on the pressure.
 
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