DNP - no weight loss

[permission to land]

Hey. Any ideas what might be happening here?

I started my cut at 207 and lost 1lb per week eating a tracked diet of 3000 cals per week. I got down to 204 and after week 3 started DNP. I started at 300 per day. It’s been a week now and I’ve seen not only no loss, but weight gain. I’ve dropped my cals daily, now down to 2500 and I’m now at 205.2. It makes no sense.

Cardio - 20/30 mins slow state cardio 5 days a week

Gym - Push Pull Legs Upper Lower

Macros - 180-200g protein, 200g ish carbs, 100g ish fats

Diet - Chicken, Eggs, Rice, Potato’s, Sweet Potato’s, Lean beef, Sirloin, Peppers, Olive Oil, Coconut Milk, Butternut Squash, etc.

AAS - Test E 150mg / Tren E 60mg per week, 70mg Var daily.

I see people lose 1lb per day and don’t understand it

My piss is bright yellow, I’m fatigued, hot as fuck, so its def legit.

I’m going to switch my diet up a little and drop carbs for my lunch and

Any ideas?

 

[racoon4]

You should do a lot bigger caloric deficit than that if you're going use the DNP and why do you even care about the weight? Only the looks matter if you're cutting.

 

[JG91]

Ended my 12 day run. Put on 4lbs overnight when eating 50% of my cutting calories.

Shit makes no sense to me.

Cutting cals 2500

Food yesterday

Meal 1
8oz sirloin
4 eggs
1 slice of sourdough with raw honey
15g grass fed butter
Kefir, mango, kiwi smoothie.

Meal 2
Protein shake with semi milk

How much weight did you lose in 12 days? And what dose were you running?

I was just going to respond to the OP to say that my experience was that I gained 4 or 5 lbs while on DNP, but when I came off I continued losing 5 lbs over two weeks after. Weight plateaued after.

DNP has an effect on the thyroid so you need to keep the calories low after you come off for a few weeks.

 

[permission to land]

How much weight did you lose in 12 days? And what dose were you running?

I was just going to respond to the OP to say that my experience was that I gained 4 or 5 lbs while on DNP, but when I came off I continued losing 5 lbs over two weeks after. Weight plateaued after.

DNP has an effect on the thyroid so you need to keep the calories low after you come off for a few weeks.

I had my last tab 2 days ago. Started at 205 and ended at 207 12 days later. Very odd.



Il update tomorrow.

This is my diet today. I’ve been trying to cut out carbs and use grass fed butter and organic products. Looking at the cals in that butter, il be saving that for a bulk from now on

 

[JG91]

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I had my last tab 2 days ago. Started at 205 and ended at 207 12 days later. Very odd.



Il update tomorrow.

This is my diet today. I’ve been trying to cut out carbs and use grass fed butter and organic products. Looking at the cals in that butter, il be saving that for a bulk from now on

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2100 calories should be a deficit obviously. But I wonder if you’re measuring wrong. I’d drop carbs that aren’t fruit or veg. Also what’s you don’t want to do HIIT due to fear of over heating, but I increase my step count. Extra low intensity cardio since the DNP makes the caloric burn more effective.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I had my last tab 2 days ago. Started at 205 and ended at 207 12 days later. Very odd.



Il update tomorrow.

This is my diet today. I’ve been trying to cut out carbs and use grass fed butter and organic products. Looking at the cals in that butter, il be saving that for a bulk from now on

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If that's accurate, just give it time. Diet looks good unless..... do you have family pizza night where you smoke a whole pie yourself once a week?

Cuz I know some guys who eat healthy all the time but then a weekly cheat meal that's bad enough to counteract a week's worth of good dieting.

Otherwise, you'll see results.

 

[permission to land]

If that's accurate, just give it time. Diet looks good unless..... do you have family pizza night where you smoke a whole pie yourself once a week?

Cuz I know some guys who eat healthy all the time but then a weekly cheat meal that's bad enough to counteract a week's worth of good dieting.

Otherwise, you'll see results.

Got on the scales today after a toilet break. 6am. Last meal was 7.30. So 9.5 hours since food.


207.2
207.4
206.8

I have medical scales with a flat floor and new batteries. But wonder if they’re maybe broken as they’re a few years old.

Something isn’t right. 3 days off DNP, eating 700 cals under maintenance and tracked every single calorie including milk in my tea. Gym and cardio

 

[mochul]

I think you should be patient. When people on a normal diet hit a stall it usually takes a week or two to break. You should probably see weight loss in a week or two.
Otherwise do a refeed for the weekend m.

 

[ShredSeason]

Got on the scales today after a toilet break. 6am. Last meal was 7.30. So 9.5 hours since food.


207.2
207.4
206.8

I have medical scales with a flat floor and new batteries. But wonder if they’re maybe broken as they’re a few years old.

Something isn’t right. 3 days off DNP, eating 700 cals under maintenance and tracked every single calorie including milk in my tea. Gym and cardio


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Yep, this is the shit that drives me insane, and people will just keep saying you’re not in a deficit lmao. I’ve gained 3 pounds during a 48-hour water fast. Also DNP does weird things with weight. Sometimes you’ll lose nothing for a week and then all of a sudden drop 6 pounds in a couple days during the cycle.

 

[Wunderpus]

It does. Body weight scale doesn't tell the whole story. You need to differentiate between fat loss (gain) and lean mass+H20 gain (loss). The sum of those two tells the whole picture and determines the scale weight.

Cheap meter combo is waist circumference / calipers / mirror (if you aren't body dysmorphic).

You don't need any DNP. Drop it. You are running a ton of AAS. I don't get it.

Take care.

"AAS - Test E 150mg / Tren E 60mg per week, 70mg Var daily." isn't what I would call A TON of AAS... More interesting, why run 60mg's of tren enanthate a week? I can't imagine there's much, if any, effect at that dose.

This cycle screams of a lack of education. I would drop everything and go back to the drawing board, as this makes ZERO sense.

 

[mochul]

"AAS - Test E 150mg / Tren E 60mg per week, 70mg Var daily." isn't what I would call A TON of AAS... More interesting, why run 60mg's of tren enanthate a week? I can't imagine there's much, if any, effect at that dose.

This cycle screams of a lack of education. I would drop everything and go back to the drawing board, as this makes ZERO sense.

Come on. Every steroid is effective even at 1mg.
60mg of tren per week is a good idea to keep muscle without too much impact on blood work. Running anavar along side dnp is not a good idea though as dnp is already stressing the body.
He should drop anavar imo

 

[DECLAN]

I am guessing you are pretty new to dieting like myself, it’s normal to second guess everything.

What I don’t see people aren’t taking note of is the most visible part, body measurements and fat folds. Do you take caliper measurements of your fattiest body parts every week? Tape measurements around navel, chest and legs? Any changes?

The scale will say you gained 5lbs all day but it doesn’t matter if you lost 1 inch around your waist according to the tape measure. Scale weight doesn’t tell everything especially with water fluctuations and e2 problems/bloat.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I think you should be patient. When people on a normal diet hit a stall it usually takes a week or two to break. You should probably see weight loss in a week or two.
Otherwise do a refeed for the weekend m.

Yep, this is the shit that drives me insane, and people will just keep saying you’re not in a deficit lmao. I’ve gained 3 pounds during a 48-hour water fast. Also DNP does weird things with weight. Sometimes you’ll lose nothing for a week and then all of a sudden drop 6 pounds in a couple days during the cycle.

It might not be linear. A big deficit might not show up on the scale for a few days or even weeks.

Considering fluid dynamics and assuming this isn't a dry fast, kinda makes sense.

*doesn't make sense when you're not losing fat but is awesome if you're losing fat (even if it still doesn't make sense)

 

[ShredSeason]

It might not be linear. A big deficit might not show up on the scale for a few days or even weeks.

Considering fluid dynamics and assuming this isn't a dry fast, kinda makes sense.

*doesn't make sense when you're not losing fat but is awesome if you're losing fat (even if it still doesn't make sense)

People on cuts that will extend beyond their DNP cycle should second guess using this compound. It does mysterious things to your ability to lose weight afterwards. Compare my weight loss stats before and after my 2 cycles:

Cycle 1
13 pounds lost in the 20 days preceding DNP cycle
4.5 pounds lost in the 20 days following DNP cycle
Cycle 2
16 pounds lost in the 18 days preceding DNP cycle
6 pounds lost in the 18 days following DNP cycle

These are drastic differences. Cycle 2 included T3, so we can’t even blame thyroid depletion. I am unsure how the hell this drug manages to do this, maybe it’s the cortisol and stress on the body. Either way, it’s an extreme effect that one may want to avoid the risk of it occurring.

 

[permission to land]

"AAS - Test E 150mg / Tren E 60mg per week, 70mg Var daily." isn't what I would call A TON of AAS... More interesting, why run 60mg's of tren enanthate a week? I can't imagine there's much, if any, effect at that dose.

This cycle screams of a lack of education. I would drop everything and go back to the drawing board, as this makes ZERO sense.

It makes perfect sense. 200mg of oil with 30% of than being the strongest compound on the planet and the rest being test. It’s a sensible approach to cutting.


They give cattle 40mg tren for 7 weeks. So this is a very inaccurate assumption re tren.

 

[readalot]

70mg Var daily

Fair enough. I'll rephrase...

"a ton of oxandrolone"

 

[permission to land]

Fair enough. I'll rephrase...

"a ton of oxandrolone"

I find most recommend 50-100mg. 70 seems like a middle ground to use with a very low dose of oils.

My tabs are 30mg each though. I’ll drop to 40mg per week mean average

 

[lukiss96]

It does. Body weight scale doesn't tell the whole story. You need to differentiate between fat loss (gain) and lean mass+H20 gain (loss). The sum of those two tells the whole picture and determines the scale weight.

Cheap meter combo is waist circumference / calipers / mirror (if you aren't body dysmorphic).

You don't need any DNP. Drop it. You are running a ton of AAS. I don't get it.

Take care.

Underrated post. Actually it's the only thing that matters.

Mirror and camera are going to show nothing but the truth. If you like the way you look then you are doing something right and it works, if not then well you need to check your diet and other things that count.

Best results I've had is when I didn't rely on drugs too much. Makes me work harder and stay more consistent.

 

[Doodle]

Yeah I wouldn't mess with DNP personally. There's a risk of developing cataracts, plus a whole bunch of other risks due to the fact you're frying your organs. Used it once before, won't touch it again. Didn't have any bad sides, its just not worth the risk

Like others said you can potentially retain some water in the initial week or two. You'll see most of the effects when you drop the dnp and it clears your system. You'll lose the water weight and your muscles will fill out.

cataracts happened to me. The craziest shit I’ve ever been through. It happened all within a 2 months span. I become literally blind. All I could see was white fog and shadows. Ironically I worked for an eye surgeon and was able to have both cataracts removed pretty quickly. Now I see 20/20 without glasses so I say that’s a small win.

I lost tons of weight on DNP the previous cycle I did. But I felt like death and the heat was unbearable.

I immediately stopped DNP before my surgery and never looked back. Pun intended.

I decided to try sema/tirzep and lost the same amount of weight and felt like a million bucks. My inflammation is gone. My mental health is better. My A1C is in normal range.

For sure cut DNP and start the GLPs

 

[Doodle]

I have to keep carbs quite low on DNP., even doing a few days 'carb depletion' before starting.
I gain water weight the first week or so. Odd because it makes you dehydrated while your body pulls more water, idk if it's extracellular, interstitial or maybe a mechanism of the rapid fat burning process.
The cataract thing might be a bit overblown. 300mg for a few weeks won't get you there. The people that worked in the factories way back when would develope them (IDK the % that developed them).
Could you imagine that was your job? You'd feel like a walking, burning, tired zombie. And then, cataracts to boot. I guess you'd be a skinny, walking, burning, tired, & cataract blinded zombie.

I only took 250mgs a day and was blind in 2 months time.

 

[Jiobani]

Why are people saying the scale doesn't tell everything? No it doesn't, but lets be real. If you're not losing weight on the scale, chances are you're probably not losing that much fat either. Lets stop fooling ourself and saying " we gain muscle". Cmon, this is only set for the genetic elite. The scale needs to drop if you want to get shredded, don't sugarcoat it. If you're on anabolics, train, eat your protein, and lose weight, guarantee you're losing fat in the process

My honest take? You bulked before this in which you got too fat and fucked up your metabolism. You need to use your bulk efficiently to set yourself up for a good dieting phase. Now you're trying to fix it by resorting to DNP. I THINK. DNP should only be used when you're already very lean but need the last 0,5% to come off.

If you already start dieting when your body is not ready for it, you can cut cals over and over again till the point where it just becomes miserable and your body doesn't respond.

Also, looking at your diet, i'm personally not a fan of IIFYM. Yes, it is a deficit but it just setting up for failure in my opinion. Keep it simple. Oats, chicken, rice, veggies, yoghurt, eggs. 7 days the same. Yes it is boring, but it works. Your body knows what it is getting and will work adapt.

This is just my take. Others might think differently. The prep for your cutting starts when you're bulking. Work up with the macros, increase the meal frequency over time, setting yourself up for success when cutting and you don't need to rely on drugs to the work for you.

I find cutting extremely easy. I barely need to change my diet throughout 10-12-14 weeks of diet and I lose 0,5-1kg a week. I set the basis for this in the bulk. For a lot of bodybuilders this is the same. Many will confirm they hate bulking and enjoy when they can start cutting, because it is just easier.