DNP - no weight loss

[permission to land]

Hey. Any ideas what might be happening here?

I started my cut at 207 and lost 1lb per week eating a tracked diet of 3000 cals per week. I got down to 204 and after week 3 started DNP. I started at 300 per day. It’s been a week now and I’ve seen not only no loss, but weight gain. I’ve dropped my cals daily, now down to 2500 and I’m now at 205.2. It makes no sense.

Cardio - 20/30 mins slow state cardio 5 days a week

Gym - Push Pull Legs Upper Lower

Macros - 180-200g protein, 200g ish carbs, 100g ish fats

Diet - Chicken, Eggs, Rice, Potato’s, Sweet Potato’s, Lean beef, Sirloin, Peppers, Olive Oil, Coconut Milk, Butternut Squash, etc.

AAS - Test E 150mg / Tren E 60mg per week, 70mg Var daily.

I see people lose 1lb per day and don’t understand it

My piss is bright yellow, I’m fatigued, hot as fuck, so its def legit.

I’m going to switch my diet up a little and drop carbs for my lunch and

Any ideas?

 

[readalot]

Thank you for sharing your story.

The way I like to think of trying DNP is playing Russian Roulette with a gun than has a an ~ 1,000 - 10,000 rd cylinder. There is no a priori definitive screen for who will have negative cataract outcome.

cataracts happened to me. The craziest shit I’ve ever been through. It happened all within a 2 months span. I become literally blind. All I could see was white fog and shadows. Ironically I worked for an eye surgeon and was able to have both cataracts removed pretty quickly. Now I see 20/20 without glasses so I say that’s a small win.

I lost tons of weight on DNP the previous cycle I did. But I felt like death and the heat was unbearable.

I immediately stopped DNP before my surgery and never looked back. Pun intended.

I decided to try sema/tirzep and lost the same amount of weight and felt like a million bucks. My inflammation is gone. My mental health is better. My A1C is in normal range.

For sure cut DNP and start the GLPs

 

[readalot]

most recommend 50-100mg. 70 seems like a middle ground

Ask your lipid particle counts. Check them after a few weeks on your selected dose.

 

[DECLAN]

Why are people saying the scale doesn't tell everything? No it doesn't, but lets be real. If you're not losing weight on the scale, chances are you're probably not losing that much fat either. Lets stop fooling ourself and saying " we gain muscle". Cmon, this is only set for the genetic elite. The scale needs to drop if you want to get shredded, don't sugarcoat it. If you're on anabolics, train, eat your protein, and lose weight, guarantee you're losing fat in the process

My honest take? You bulked before this in which you got too fat and fucked up your metabolism. You need to use your bulk efficiently to set yourself up for a good dieting phase. Now you're trying to fix it by resorting to DNP. I THINK. DNP should only be used when you're already very lean but need the last 0,5% to come off.

If you already start dieting when your body is not ready for it, you can cut cals over and over again till the point where it just becomes miserable and your body doesn't respond.

Also, looking at your diet, i'm personally not a fan of IIFYM. Yes, it is a deficit but it just setting up for failure in my opinion. Keep it simple. Oats, chicken, rice, veggies, yoghurt, eggs. 7 days the same. Yes it is boring, but it works. Your body knows what it is getting and will work adapt.

This is just my take. Others might think differently. The prep for your cutting starts when you're bulking. Work up with the macros, increase the meal frequency over time, setting yourself up for success when cutting and you don't need to rely on drugs to the work for you.

I find cutting extremely easy. I barely need to change my diet throughout 10-12-14 weeks of diet and I lose 0,5-1kg a week. I set the basis for this in the bulk. For a lot of bodybuilders this is the same. Many will confirm they hate bulking and enjoy when they can start cutting, because it is just easier.

Nobody is saying he is gaining muscle, but sometimes there is plateau in the scale since fat loss isn’t linear due to water retention caused by drugs or sodium intake. However, this only happens for a short time, then you make adjustments to keep losing weight.

Good for you if you lose weight easy but everyone is different, its just like how people respond to diet types, the responses will vary depending on your body’s metabolism and such.

 

[ShredSeason]

Why are people saying the scale doesn't tell everything? No it doesn't, but lets be real. If you're not losing weight on the scale, chances are you're probably not losing that much fat either. Lets stop fooling ourself and saying " we gain muscle". Cmon, this is only set for the genetic elite. The scale needs to drop if you want to get shredded, don't sugarcoat it. If you're on anabolics, train, eat your protein, and lose weight, guarantee you're losing fat in the process

My honest take? You bulked before this in which you got too fat and fucked up your metabolism. You need to use your bulk efficiently to set yourself up for a good dieting phase. Now you're trying to fix it by resorting to DNP. I THINK. DNP should only be used when you're already very lean but need the last 0,5% to come off.

If you already start dieting when your body is not ready for it, you can cut cals over and over again till the point where it just becomes miserable and your body doesn't respond.

Also, looking at your diet, i'm personally not a fan of IIFYM. Yes, it is a deficit but it just setting up for failure in my opinion. Keep it simple. Oats, chicken, rice, veggies, yoghurt, eggs. 7 days the same. Yes it is boring, but it works. Your body knows what it is getting and will work adapt.

This is just my take. Others might think differently. The prep for your cutting starts when you're bulking. Work up with the macros, increase the meal frequency over time, setting yourself up for success when cutting and you don't need to rely on drugs to the work for you.

I find cutting extremely easy. I barely need to change my diet throughout 10-12-14 weeks of diet and I lose 0,5-1kg a week. I set the basis for this in the bulk. For a lot of bodybuilders this is the same. Many will confirm they hate bulking and enjoy when they can start cutting, because it is just easier.

Brother you are on a forum named thinksteroids, put two and two together. There are a million and one different things that could be putting pounds on the scale.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Ask your lipid particle counts. Check them after a few weeks on your selected dose.

With the advent of apoB testing, lipid particle counts are kinda going to the wayside. If apoB is high, it doesn't matter if they're big & fluffy or small & dense -- treatment is to lower apoB.

 

[permission to land]

Why are people saying the scale doesn't tell everything? No it doesn't, but lets be real. If you're not losing weight on the scale, chances are you're probably not losing that much fat either. Lets stop fooling ourself and saying " we gain muscle". Cmon, this is only set for the genetic elite. The scale needs to drop if you want to get shredded, don't sugarcoat it. If you're on anabolics, train, eat your protein, and lose weight, guarantee you're losing fat in the process

My honest take? You bulked before this in which you got too fat and fucked up your metabolism. You need to use your bulk efficiently to set yourself up for a good dieting phase. Now you're trying to fix it by resorting to DNP. I THINK. DNP should only be used when you're already very lean but need the last 0,5% to come off.

If you already start dieting when your body is not ready for it, you can cut cals over and over again till the point where it just becomes miserable and your body doesn't respond.

Also, looking at your diet, i'm personally not a fan of IIFYM. Yes, it is a deficit but it just setting up for failure in my opinion. Keep it simple. Oats, chicken, rice, veggies, yoghurt, eggs. 7 days the same. Yes it is boring, but it works. Your body knows what it is getting and will work adapt.

This is just my take. Others might think differently. The prep for your cutting starts when you're bulking. Work up with the macros, increase the meal frequency over time, setting yourself up for success when cutting and you don't need to rely on drugs to the work for you.

I find cutting extremely easy. I barely need to change my diet throughout 10-12-14 weeks of diet and I lose 0,5-1kg a week. I set the basis for this in the bulk. For a lot of bodybuilders this is the same. Many will confirm they hate bulking and enjoy when they can start cutting, because it is just easier.

Great post mate.

 

[legion401]

cataracts happened to me. The craziest shit I’ve ever been through. It happened all within a 2 months span. I become literally blind. All I could see was white fog and shadows. Ironically I worked for an eye surgeon and was able to have both cataracts removed pretty quickly. Now I see 20/20 without glasses so I say that’s a small win.

I lost tons of weight on DNP the previous cycle I did. But I felt like death and the heat was unbearable.

I immediately stopped DNP before my surgery and never looked back. Pun intended.

I decided to try sema/tirzep and lost the same amount of weight and felt like a million bucks. My inflammation is gone. My mental health is better. My A1C is in normal range.

For sure cut DNP and start the GLPs

Thank you for sharing, if you dont mind me asking are you a woman?

 

[readalot]

With the advent of apoB testing, lipid particle counts are kinda going to the wayside. If apoB is high, it doesn't matter if they're big & fluffy or small & dense -- treatment is to lower apoB.

Don't agree that ldl-p is going by the wayside. What you mean (I guess) is that ApoB seems to be just as useful practically speaking and is cheaper test.

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[bigboy420]

Thank you for sharing, if you dont mind me asking are you a woman?

Some titts would be nice if thats a yes