Never used DNP or ANY PED, this is a protocol I am planning on doing and would like suggestions with, please read the entire post before commenting.
DNP PROTOCOL (ideal, adjustments by feel will be made accordingly)
Days Dose(crystal)
1 250
2 250
3 250
4 250
5 250
6 500 (split AM/PM)
7 250
8 250
9 500(split AM/PM)
10 250
11 250
12 500(split AM/PM)
13 250
14 500(split AM/PM)
It should be obvious that I am trying to stagger the 500mg doses so that the accumulation of dnp in my system remains at a moderate/low level. I am trying to err on the side of caution and have no plans to exceed this protocol. I came to the conclusion that this seemed to be a good conservative protocol that might yield good results (time will tell.)
Next is balancing the risks with preventative actions. Obviously I will be staying hydrated, replenishing electrolytes, staying cool, backing off heavy training etc. But the most alarming potential side I am concerned about is Peripheral Neuropathy. I believe that PN should be talked about WAY more when people inquire about DNP. Everyone talks about the danger of overheating, but that should not be a problem for a well-researched responsible person. Anyways if you don’t already know about PN, multiple people have experienced it with DNP use so it is confirmed as a risk. PN effects hands and feet usually first resulting in sometimes permanent extreme pain, numbness, and even loss of extremities if untreated or allowed to progress. It is very common in diabetes patients and this is what got me thinking about prevention.
According to Mayo Clinic, these are the known causes of PN
· Diabetes mellitus, especially if your sugar levels are poorly controlled
· Alcohol abuse
· Vitamin deficiencies, particularly B vitamins
· Infections, such as Lyme disease, shingles (varicella-zoster), Epstein-Barr virus, hepatitis C and HIV
· Autoimmune diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis and lupus, in which your immune system attacks your own tissues
· Kidney, liver or thyroid disorders
· Exposure to toxins
· Repetitive motion, such as those performed for certain jobs
· Family history of neuropathy
Looking at these causes the ones that stand out as a potential relation to DNP use are obviously the dietary ones since DNP is effecting the way you receive food/nutrition AND that many people are going on diets depriving themselves of things they otherwise would not. These are the concerns I have and the counter measures I am thinking of taking
Diabetes/sugar fluctuation – I will be monitoring my sugar levels daily (my grandfather is a recovered diabetic and has the equipment I can borrow) If any signs of sugar fluctuation show themselves I will discontinue use immediately, try to correct the levels with diet and then proceed with cycle, if I can’t correct I will discontinue the cycle. Sugar fluctuations are the #1 cause of PN and I think this might have a lot to do with why some people suffered from PN on DNP. It could be that these people were on extreme diets or were in early stages of Diabetes? Not sure, only a guess?
Alcohol – obviously I won’t drink
Vitamin B deficiencies – I have a form of anemia, kind of like sickle cell but for Italian people, but it is FAR less extreme, cells are misshaped causing oxygen to transfer to cells less effectively, causes low hemoglobin. Long story short I take an extreme vit supplement stack including HIGH doses of B12 and Niacin B3, among many others so I don’t see deficiencies being a problem. (side note, this vit stack changed my life, was lethargic 5/10 days, now have energy to spare)
Thyroid – I think others have caught on to this and this with the use of t3 and this very well may be where people are getting the PN. I have heard of physicians using DNP and testing their thyroid frequently throughout with no changes, but this seems to only effect a small group of people who I believe are having some kind of unusual reaction be it, extreme low sugar levels, extreme thyroid damage, or extreme Vitamin Deficiencies... Anyways I don’t know much about t3 other than it’s supposed to help with thyroid and eat your muscles lol. I have heard people recommend a 50/mg day dose which I will likely do at the 7 day mark or so.
I will not be doing this protocol for quite awhile, maybe a month or so. I want to further research, gather all the supps/preventative equipment and I want to bulk and gain a bit more muscle before cutting. I am also having a full physical and blood work being done in two weeks to make sure my throid/sugar/vit levels are good to begin with.
Anyways that’s about all and that’s my plan. Does anyone have any other suggestions or recommend I change something? If any of you have experienced PN can you share your dose, duration, and IF you were taking and preventative precautions like T3, sugar monitoring, vit B, or were you drinking alcohol, dehydrated...?
Cliffs
- conservative protocol 1st time user
- concerned with PN
- attempting prevention of PN with counter measures
- seeking opinions on counter measures and feedback from people who have suffered it with DNP
- should I do shorter cycle/higher dose? I'm realistically not interested in anything longer even at lower dose.
Thanks!
DNP PROTOCOL (ideal, adjustments by feel will be made accordingly)
Days Dose(crystal)
1 250
2 250
3 250
4 250
5 250
6 500 (split AM/PM)
7 250
8 250
9 500(split AM/PM)
10 250
11 250
12 500(split AM/PM)
13 250
14 500(split AM/PM)
It should be obvious that I am trying to stagger the 500mg doses so that the accumulation of dnp in my system remains at a moderate/low level. I am trying to err on the side of caution and have no plans to exceed this protocol. I came to the conclusion that this seemed to be a good conservative protocol that might yield good results (time will tell.)
Next is balancing the risks with preventative actions. Obviously I will be staying hydrated, replenishing electrolytes, staying cool, backing off heavy training etc. But the most alarming potential side I am concerned about is Peripheral Neuropathy. I believe that PN should be talked about WAY more when people inquire about DNP. Everyone talks about the danger of overheating, but that should not be a problem for a well-researched responsible person. Anyways if you don’t already know about PN, multiple people have experienced it with DNP use so it is confirmed as a risk. PN effects hands and feet usually first resulting in sometimes permanent extreme pain, numbness, and even loss of extremities if untreated or allowed to progress. It is very common in diabetes patients and this is what got me thinking about prevention.
According to Mayo Clinic, these are the known causes of PN
· Diabetes mellitus, especially if your sugar levels are poorly controlled
· Alcohol abuse
· Vitamin deficiencies, particularly B vitamins
· Infections, such as Lyme disease, shingles (varicella-zoster), Epstein-Barr virus, hepatitis C and HIV
· Autoimmune diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis and lupus, in which your immune system attacks your own tissues
· Kidney, liver or thyroid disorders
· Exposure to toxins
· Repetitive motion, such as those performed for certain jobs
· Family history of neuropathy
Looking at these causes the ones that stand out as a potential relation to DNP use are obviously the dietary ones since DNP is effecting the way you receive food/nutrition AND that many people are going on diets depriving themselves of things they otherwise would not. These are the concerns I have and the counter measures I am thinking of taking
Diabetes/sugar fluctuation – I will be monitoring my sugar levels daily (my grandfather is a recovered diabetic and has the equipment I can borrow) If any signs of sugar fluctuation show themselves I will discontinue use immediately, try to correct the levels with diet and then proceed with cycle, if I can’t correct I will discontinue the cycle. Sugar fluctuations are the #1 cause of PN and I think this might have a lot to do with why some people suffered from PN on DNP. It could be that these people were on extreme diets or were in early stages of Diabetes? Not sure, only a guess?
Alcohol – obviously I won’t drink
Vitamin B deficiencies – I have a form of anemia, kind of like sickle cell but for Italian people, but it is FAR less extreme, cells are misshaped causing oxygen to transfer to cells less effectively, causes low hemoglobin. Long story short I take an extreme vit supplement stack including HIGH doses of B12 and Niacin B3, among many others so I don’t see deficiencies being a problem. (side note, this vit stack changed my life, was lethargic 5/10 days, now have energy to spare)
Thyroid – I think others have caught on to this and this with the use of t3 and this very well may be where people are getting the PN. I have heard of physicians using DNP and testing their thyroid frequently throughout with no changes, but this seems to only effect a small group of people who I believe are having some kind of unusual reaction be it, extreme low sugar levels, extreme thyroid damage, or extreme Vitamin Deficiencies... Anyways I don’t know much about t3 other than it’s supposed to help with thyroid and eat your muscles lol. I have heard people recommend a 50/mg day dose which I will likely do at the 7 day mark or so.
I will not be doing this protocol for quite awhile, maybe a month or so. I want to further research, gather all the supps/preventative equipment and I want to bulk and gain a bit more muscle before cutting. I am also having a full physical and blood work being done in two weeks to make sure my throid/sugar/vit levels are good to begin with.
Anyways that’s about all and that’s my plan. Does anyone have any other suggestions or recommend I change something? If any of you have experienced PN can you share your dose, duration, and IF you were taking and preventative precautions like T3, sugar monitoring, vit B, or were you drinking alcohol, dehydrated...?
Cliffs
- conservative protocol 1st time user
- concerned with PN
- attempting prevention of PN with counter measures
- seeking opinions on counter measures and feedback from people who have suffered it with DNP
- should I do shorter cycle/higher dose? I'm realistically not interested in anything longer even at lower dose.
Thanks!
