Do not fall in love with sources...

[devildog93]

Dan, you might take a look at this sentence again and see why it was fucking hillarious: ...donations threw my advice... But im an idiot right? Yea, when you mean "through" and spell it "threw"...then start calling someone an idiot, it is pretty damn funny. At least you spelled idiot right.

Fro the record i was one of the guys banging on Alin. Years ago i received 2 good orders from him. The next 2 were total garbage. I don't care how long he has been in business or that he is still selective scamming. It fits right in there with shit that goes on every day in America. AIG is "too big to fail" right? Hell, they were founded in 1919 and are pretty fucking crooked in my book. Just because you are still in business does not give you any moral credibility in my book. Our government has been around far longer than 20 years. Do you think they have your best interests at heart as well?

Bottom line is that in this business the phrase "what have you done for me lately" always applies. Being a rep and shielding yourself from this does nothing to add to your credibility and is totally self-serving. Sure, since you are on the inside with whatever source they may treat you right. That does nothing for the people your source may be scamming. That is also a big reason reps are looked at as a lower life form on the boards.

 

[Big-Dan]

Why do you keep justifying what you do if you don't care what anyone thinks? We get it- you hang out to read comical posts and herd newbies to a source you claim is your source so you get free gear. I am sure you wouldn't refer people to a valued source if you have no way to gauge if the newbie is a cop or not, but we will just call it "your" source.

You claim to know so much about the business- of course you do. You are a rep. Maybe not by title, but you endorse sources for money and gear, which means you are a rep.

I just think it's ridiculous you continue to trash the board- yet here you are. Business must be good my little rep. Carry on.

Whats ridiculous is the fact that you keep defending a method that doesn't work... there isn't one shred of an argument to say otherwise. I don't care what you think. believe that.. What I do care about is how you act like your looking out for the new guys and bros and all they do is get fucked left and right... You guys attack any source that comes here and pretend like the coc isn't easy to surpass... Anyone can google up some pics and offer a few LEGIT samples for testing. That's all it takes here right? Then bam all you heros are talking em up left and right next thing you know theres a herd of newbies that you led to slaughter. But im the worst of the worst because I steer ppl in the right direction?? And its a fact you guys have led newbies to burnville all year long.. The fucked up thing is I offerd to bring a source here and even offerd gear to test. I simply stated he wouldn't post pictures and well hes a scammer because of this? And for the record business is really good brutus. everyones happy even long time members here... Its just to bad your to fucking stupid to see all your doing is hurting new members. All of you guys... How can you honestly say any different? And then its the same ol bullshit of you trash talking the source that just fucked everyone. Your words aint helping all the guys that were led to believe by the meso hero's association that this source was legit and wouldn't infect them or take there money... A solid year of lab after lab that you guys supported and coc approved has taken everyones money. A fucking year

 

[Big-Dan]

spelling jokes really. Alinshop is not a scammer. Fuckin ifbb competitors using the guy. 20 years of business. I don't use him anymore cause his price is higher but I know ppl that do.. You guys keep doin your thing its obviously working

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Whats ridiculous is the fact that you keep defending a method that doesn't work... there isn't one shred of an argument to say otherwise. I don't care what you think. believe that.. What I do care about is how you act like your looking out for the new guys and bros and all they do is get fucked left and right... You guys attack any source that comes here and pretend like the coc isn't easy to surpass... Anyone can google up some pics and offer a few LEGIT samples for testing. That's all it takes here right? Then bam all you heros are talking em up left and right next thing you know theres a herd of newbies that you led to slaughter. But im the worst of the worst because I steer ppl in the right direction?? And its a fact you guys have led newbies to burnville all year long.. The fucked up thing is I offerd to bring a source here and even offerd gear to test. I simply stated he wouldn't post pictures and well hes a scammer because of this? And for the record business is really good brutus. everyones happy even long time members here... Its just to bad your to fucking stupid to see all your doing is hurting new members. All of you guys... How can you honestly say any different? And then its the same ol bullshit of you trash talking the source that just fucked everyone. Your words aint helping all the guys that were led to believe by the meso hero's association that this source was legit and wouldn't infect them or take there money... A solid year of lab after lab that you guys supported and coc approved has taken everyones money. A fucking year

Ah yes, now I remember.. The last meltdown you had when you wanted to bring your beloved source to Meso but got pissed he'd have to post pics.. No wonder you talk so much shit about the CoC..

I can only imagine what you would've gotten out of that deal.. Certainly explains why you were so upset.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Here it is.. Apparently his source already got ran out of here once.. He also claims a few times he doesn't get anything for this, just helping "bros" out!!

Now you can add that you're a freaking liar to your resume..

Ok from a guy looking in I cant help but notice most of the labs pushed and supported almost always go belly up pretty quick... I realize that this is common in the game but damn... These are just words out of my mouth and in no way pointed at anyone.. But I think you guys need to realize that the successful ugls out there coudnt give 2 shits if you demand pics of set ups blah blah... These guys are pulling hundreds of orders and don't have to prove thereselves to a few here... So they come here try to pick up some biz and get jumped with rules and negative bs... I just think a little understanding of the game and common sense should be utilized... I understand totally your trying to look out for each other and that's great. But the cold hard fact is meso method just aint fucking working... Ive seen labs get support here and always with the exception of astro most have went down faster than a blonde on prom night.. The tried and true sources just are not gonna jump on board with demands and hazing when they just simply don't really need the biz. I love this board and its hilarious and informative at the same time. I have a guy if someones interested get at me.. He aint gonna come back but ill give anyone directions on how to get him.. Ill donate something to get tested if one of the big names wants to test it or whatever.. I make no money from this guy and am not affiliated I just order ALOT from him and have pretty much everything on his line up on hand.. Im only doing this to help out guys who are interested I gain nothing from it other than maybe a little respect...

I seriously aint making shit dude.. He came here once and you guys gave the same ol routine.. He has flourished elsewhere.. If you arnt interested it don't hurt my feelings if you are ill give you the contact... I been here awhile only ever vouched for one person and geuss what fellas he hasn't ripped folks or sent them floaters.. How bout all your other vouchers that you love? they kept you in good gear?? And to answer the question of established labs..lmao well you have one that has lasted im not really noticing any others... Like I said you don't need my help good for you. if you want direction ill help you out

 

[brutus79]

Here it is.. Apparently his source already got ran out of here once.. He also claims a few times he doesn't get anything for this, just helping "bros" out!!

Now you can add that you're a freaking liar to your resume..

Oh- he doesn't make money and he makes money. Sounds kosher.

For the record I tell all newbies to stay the fuck away from any public source. All of them are fucking bullshit. Fuck every public source here and on every other board. Newbies buy because they are impatient and stupid.

 

[Fckit]

Here it is.. Apparently his source already got ran out of here once.. He also claims a few times he doesn't get anything for this, just helping "bros" out!!

Now you can add that you're a freaking liar to your resume..

Aaaaaaaand that's a wrap!

 

[devildog93]

So because Alin supplies ifbb pros that means he won't screw the rest of us? That is just fucked up logic. The same thing you are bitching at us about really. I think i said selective scamming, and i meant just that. I don't know or care if it is because i'm not an inner circle ifbb pro or that i'm not cool enough to get on the inside otherwise, but he did screw me twice on orders i'm sure were piddly to him. My word is only that, just my word.

I know when i am taking sustanon amps at a gram a week for 10 weeks and end up with a net mass gain of 5 pounds something isn't right. It doesn't take a mass spec to know that is fucked up. Same thing with deca and sustanon on the next one a year later. 400mg of deca and 750mg of test a week for 12 weeks...7 pounds. This is from someone who does a cycle every 2 years on average. With proper gear i could pin once a week with 500mg and do far better without trying to maintain a stable blood level at all.

So yea, i totally believe that Alin can supply real gear and does to some people. That isn't in dispute by me at all. It also doesn't do anything for those of us who do run into complete bogus orders from him. If it is a crap-shoot when ordering from a known good source, as it was for me, then why are you acting like it is any different to give someone new a chance?

Here is how it is for me. I have 2 choices. Deal with the bad source i know and have run with for 6 years (Alin) knowing i have a 50% chance of receiving the product i expect to or give a new guy a chance. I lean towards giving someone else a chance hoping that perhaps i can get a higher percentage. After all, most of us are not IFBB pros and aren't hanging with the club regulars. We are just normal guys looking in from the outside. They can afford to hose us far easier than a guy competing at the top level.

 

[brutus79]

So because Alin supplies ifbb pros that means he won't screw the rest of us? That is just fucked up logic. The same thing you are bitching at us about really. I think i said selective scamming, and i meant just that. I don't know or care if it is because i'm not an inner circle ifbb pro or that i'm not cool enough to get on the inside otherwise, but he did screw me twice on orders i'm sure were piddly to him. My word is only that, just my word.

I know when i am taking sustanon amps at a gram a week for 10 weeks and end up with a net mass gain of 5 pounds something isn't right. It doesn't take a mass spec to know that is fucked up. Same thing with deca and sustanon on the next one a year later. 400mg of deca and 750mg of test a week for 12 weeks...7 pounds. This is from someone who does a cycle every 2 years on average. With proper gear i could pin once a week with 500mg and do far better without trying to maintain a stable blood level at all.

So yea, i totally believe that Alin can supply real gear and does to some people. That isn't in dispute by me at all. It also doesn't do anything for those of us who do run into complete bogus orders from him. If it is a crap-shoot when ordering from a known good source, as it was for me, then why are you acting like it is any different to give someone new a chance?

Here is how it is for me. I have 2 choices. Deal with the bad source i know and have run with for 6 years (Alin) knowing i have a 50% chance of receiving the product i expect to or give a new guy a chance. I lean towards giving someone else a chance hoping that perhaps i can get a higher percentage. After all, most of us are not IFBB pros and aren't hanging with the club regulars. We are just normal guys looking in from the outside. They can afford to hose us far easier than a guy competing at the top level.

You forgot choice three- pm that faggot-ass big dan for his secret source so he can get free gear!

 

[Burrr]

Do not fall in love with a SRC named Alin

 

[Burrr]

Meso is great for a lot of things... you've got Dr Scally sharing his PCT wisdom, great articles by Bill Roberts, advice for 20 year olds that want to run loads of tren, etc etc
But this is not a place to come find your SRC. Find your SRC elsewhere, even one of those source boards, then come back to meso and dig up the dirt on them.

Meso is definitely an entertaining forum, I know I've had a good time here.

 

[ChaseQ]

Funny, some time ago I wrote a detailed opinion I have about SRC's and the cycle they go through. At the time there was alot of SRC stroking going on and the fact Ive been around for quite some time and witnessed the cycle over and over, it was shot down by the new kids saying I didnt know what I was talking about and SRC's like PEP and Bio will be around forever...hmmm...

Anyways, I agree with the OP. Its always just a matter of time. Ive been lucky to have some amazing private sources that have held up well over time. Im not delusional and think their magically an exception to the rule either.

The art is in reading the signs and a little luck. Obviously having a place like what Millard has created helps us "see" the signs and know when its time to move on.

Not trying to start an argument but we must remember, there is no sure way or answer to proving a SRCs is legit. The COC and testing are all good tools but we mustn't become over reliant on those. It takes an almost 6th sense to "see it coming."

So stay frosty my brothers!

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

spelling jokes really. Alinshop is not a scammer. Fuckin ifbb competitors using the guy. 20 years of business. I don't use him anymore cause his price is higher but I know ppl that do.. You guys keep doin your thing its obviously working

LMFAO! Sounds like a ProMuscle sales pitch. IFBB pros use Alin, huh? Don't make me laugh. Just because Alin or Andrei say it, that doesn't make it true, son.

And yes, Alin is known EVERYWHERE as a selective scammer. He's a garbage source with garbage gear and anyone that's been "around" as long as you claim, and still defends him is a piece of shit that's on the payroll. Perhaps if you pulled your head out of Andrei's ass and ventured to the forums Andrei doesn't own and Alin doesn't sponsor, you'd know that. But I suspect you would ignore it anyway, just like you've ignored it here, since it's bad for business - yours.

I've been reading your horseshit for two days. Because your presence as a member has been so insignificant, even with 174 posts, I hadn't noticed you before yesterday. However, after your recent case of verbal diarrhea, I now have you summed up pretty well. You're a shill. But not just any shill. You're the most dangerous kind of shill because you're a true believer - a fanatic with a low IQ who will continue to defend his boss in spite of overwhelming evidence, even after the scam is over and the boss is long gone. You drank the Kool Aid and went back for more.

Your endorsement of Alin sealed your fate. I now know the kind of sources you've been trying to steer Meso's noobs towards. I hope you've had some success up until now because your gravy train ends today, junior. It's over. I will ensure no one else falls prey to your scamming employer on Meso again. Got it? You're now on my radar, boy, and I WILL be watching you.

CBS

 

[Burrr]

LMFAO! I hope you've had some success up until now because your gravy train ends today, junior. It's over. I will ensure no one else falls prey to your scamming employer on Meso again. Got it? You're now on my radar, boy, and I WILL be watching you.

CBS

LMAO! OMG, It's CBS

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

LMFAO! Sounds like a ProMuscle sales pitch. IFBB pros use Alin, huh? Don't make me laugh. Just because Alin or Andrei say it, that doesn't make it true, son.

And yes, Alin is known EVERYWHERE as a selective scammer. He's a garbage source with garbage gear and anyone that's been "around" as long as you claim, and still defends him is a piece of shit that's on the payroll. Perhaps if you pulled your head out of Andrei's ass and ventured to the forums Andrei doesn't own and Alin doesn't sponsor, you'd know that. But I suspect you would ignore it anyway since it's bad for business - yours.

I've been reading your horseshit for two days. Because your presence as a member has been so insignificant, even with 174 posts, I hadn't noticed you before yesterday. However, after your recent case of verbal diarrhea, I now have you summed up pretty well. You're a shill. But you're not just any shill. You're the most dangerous kind of shill because you're a true believer - a fanatic with a low IQ who will continue to defend his boss in spite of overwhelming evidence, even after the scam is over. You drank the Kool Aid and went back for more.

Your endorsement of Alin sealed your fate. I now know the kind of sources you've been trying to steer Meso's noobs towards. I hope you've had some success up until now because your gravy train ends today, junior. It's over. I will ensure no one else falls prey to your scamming employer on Meso again. Got it? You're now on my radar, boy, and I WILL be watching you.

CBS

I spent 5 min going back through the threads he started earlier today and I'm pretty sure his source is S.A.P., some new no name loser from January/February that got blown out here.

He cries more in that thread than my teenage daughter!!

This guy has definitely got some mental issues going on.. And you're right, that is dangerous.

 

[Fckit]

You're now on my radar, boy, and I WILL be watching you.

CBS

Based on CBS's track record, this is not a good place to be. I'd run far... far far away

 

[bigpoppachump]

spelling jokes really. Alinshop is not a scammer. Fuckin ifbb competitors using the guy. 20 years of business. I don't use him anymore cause his price is higher but I know ppl that do.. You guys keep doin your thing its obviously working

Alinshop is one of the easiest to research as a scammer. He's not as well camouflaged as some of the other scammers because a simple google search of "Alinshop scammer" will turn up boat loads of bad reviews and burned customers.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I spent 5 min going back through the threads he started earlier today and I'm pretty sure his source is S.A.P., some new no name loser from January/February that got blown out here.
He cries more in that thread than my teenage daughter!!

This guy has definitely got some mental issues going on.. And you're right, that is dangerous.

If that's the case, you're right on the timetable - at least that's when they started at PM. And wouldn't you know it? They're having issues with late packs and some of the Kilo Club guys are starting to complain so it must be serious.

You promised me last week i would have everything. Then you said saturday for sure, then it was monday for sure. After 7 weeks its just more lies. Should there be a big sale going on while i have been owed for 7 weeks? This has just been a big headache and i have never been lied to this much in my life. I just dont get it

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/110778-sponsor-sap-30.html#post1940436

 

[brutus79]

I have had some recent conversation with members of meso, outside of meso, about meso. I understand that any administrator/owner wants traffic. .. having done some seo in my past I often marvel at millard's mastery of the ironclad secret of Google's algorithms for seatch results... he does an excellnt job and has some truly, truly innovative shit going on to raise his rankings (which are virtually always #1). I have heard from admins and mods- right from their mouths that they are green with envy over our traffic. If you look at the numbers of people viewing at any one time it truly boggles the mind how many "researchers" constantly peruse the sight that are not active members. Kudos Millard.

I often hear him refer to this as an experiment. He either has no expectations or keeps them closely guarded as to how he defines success with the "experiment" (I assume traffic... maybe he was just waiting for someone special like me to post every day.... either way he is #winning) and how he hopes it will turn out. He seems largely concerned with providing a conduit for the unfettered flow of sensitive information in a culture that is 100% censored. So many fucking mods are on a powertrip. Get lippy and get banned. Negative source feedback? Bye bye comments and your ass. That security whether it is financially based by kickbacks or simply an ego trip based on power to "control" a people or an outcome is very hard to impossible for these admins to abandon.

I say- why let sources source here? I understand that might hurt traffic, but if you become an informational hub for testing and feedback- an underground based on reviewing EVERY SOURCE why wouldn't people still come? Man- I dream of the day I could just tell every tom, dick and scammer to just get the fuck out of here. Bye. Fuck you very much but we domt need you... sources would be still forced to provide good gear to get good reviews on the highest trafficked site on the net, right? I could be wromg but I hate all these fly by night public sources- and Astro's arrogant ass is what passes for long term success? Pathetic track record for us. Get out of the vetting sources business and just drive them out before they put down roots.

Phone typed so If I irritated you with ttpos go fuck yourself.

 

[devildog93]

I am starting to see how this would be a good idea. Oh hey, you're an Alinshop rep, gtfo. That has a ring to it. I could live with it just being a discussion board and getting rid of the resellers and sources.