Do you hallucinate or have been?

[Rickt]

schizophrenia does sound like it, maybe a version of it since most mental disorders has a huge span (been working in that field). Example autism which can be completely normal more or less to extremely incapable.

In the same time, it says schizophrenia affect 1 in 100 people, so in that case many on this board has it to some degree lol

It also states that most schizophrenia will not be treated and most have random episodes that last days or weeks, rarely months (sounds like me). Some might experience a few times in their entire lifetime and some has the need of life-time treatment.

I will definitely keep my eye on it, even since talking to a board of stangers rarely lead to much than funny punchlines, I still feel way better and episodes has subsided. I started to actively not indulge in the episodes due to curiosity and that has helped. I gotta admit that I have been worse at handling stress these last few years since I am reponsible for the livelyhood of hundreds besides my own personal issues.

Talking helps regardless of what you receive, thank you guys, and I recommend ALL with anything to do the same. Non is alone battling sh*t, we just gotta stop feeling ashamed and filter the good from the bad.

Ok so for once you are serious my brother from the same mother.
We are alike i see things. Have all my life. It isnt a problem as long as you recognize when it happens you dont need to react. I used to push myself mentally and without reason i would see a black cat. Just a glimps at first. Then when i relaxed it would stay. If you want to know what i did about it pm me. This isnt steroid related so we will chat in private. But you dont need a doctor or drugs. Your brain/mind is just comunicating to you with a pretend friend. Because you arent listening to the other forms of comunication. Fatigue stress overwhelm desire sadness things like this.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Time to be a little cray cray!

I have since adult age started to hallucinate from time to time, I would think it has been going on for 10 years
now back and forth, but lately it has become extremely realistic.
It's always in the night of course before sleep stage, so it does correlate to night terrors or hypnagogic, but I am
fully awake and fully mobile which is the scary part.

I even smacked my girlfriend when she slept with a pillow because I saw a huge spider on her face, that was
not popular....
She knows I see stuff and she is somewhat religious, so luckily she stays.

The hallucinations are never auditory, but I can sense, feel and see. So in the case of the spider above, when he
took steps I could actually see the damn sheet getting pushed down under it's legs, so it's not just a shadow if that makes sense.

Now I have started to see people and shadows, more and more detailed. They are never malicious, just being there,
walking/ flowing around or sitting looking at you. This freaked me out extremely in the beginning, but now I am kinda
used to it and see what they do until I get bored and fall asleep.

Now me personally am a non-believer, but I have an open mind to learn about things we don't understand.
If it's spiritual or mental I cannot say, but if it's mental I am worried it might get worse and affect my life, that mean
sleep quality, reactions that are unwarranted, fear, or whatever.
I prefer to not become the crazy cat lady in Simpsons...

I did talk with someone regarding this is the past and they pushed it as stress which of course it can be, but it happens
even when all is fine.
I do not wanna eat pills, more hope to understand it.

Anyone of you with similar experiences or knowledge?

Recently, I've been hallucinating a bit. I attribute it to starting to get some poor vision. For example, the other day I thought I saw my mailman go to the neighbors house to drop off the mail. However, he wasn't there.

Also recently I feel like I've been in a dissociative state. It's hard to describe. Kind of like I'm controlling myself, but from a distance. I'm in a good mood and have no interest in harming myself or anyone else.

So, I'll disagree with most of the board and say, it's good that you understand that you may be hallucinating. It's people that hallucinate, that don't believe that they are hallucinating that we should worry about.

 

[Hayes88]

Ok so for once you are serious my brother from the same mother.
We are alike i see things. Have all my life. It isnt a problem as long as you recognize when it happens you dont need to react. I used to push myself mentally and without reason i would see a black cat. Just a glimps at first. Then when i relaxed it would stay. If you want to know what i did about it pm me. This isnt steroid related so we will chat in private. But you dont need a doctor or drugs. Your brain/mind is just comunicating to you with a pretend friend. Because you arent listening to the other forms of comunication. Fatigue stress overwhelm desire sadness things like this.

PM sent! Appreciate it man!

 

[Hayes88]

Recently, I've been hallucinating a bit. I attribute it to starting to get some poor vision. For example, the other day I thought I saw my mailman go to the neighbors house to drop off the mail. However, he wasn't there.

Also recently I feel like I've been in a dissociative state. It's hard to describe. Kind of like I'm controlling myself, but from a distance. I'm in a good mood and have no interest in harming myself or anyone else.

So, I'll disagree with most of the board and say, it's good that you understand that you may be hallucinating. It's people that hallucinate, that don't believe that they are hallucinating that we should worry about.

Very true man! Everything regarding what most don't understand is regarded as negative and people jump to conclusions and those conclusions are almost always negative (horrible even) since we compare that to the few news articles we have read - Just look back at history, wasn't long ago medicin was considered witchcraft...

There are millions who seek understanding to what they might have seen, heard, experienced, felt etc that goes outside the norm. Depending on culture, religion, interest, knowledge, state etc usually give that certain individual a base to believe what it can be.

Where I live for example it's religious and they pray for me to communicate the spirits away, now that is not my belief at all, but it's theirs. And you can see a pattern what most have seen and what they do regarding it depending where they live and with who they live with.

As long as we can talk and share we are on a great path, telling someone to seek help is not helping most (learned that from experience in work). That will build a wall around them and things get worse. Most who seek help get worse, not better. If anyone of you have been at a psych institution (I have for friends and work) you know that they do not come out human anymore... Most are there for you to vent and asking question for you to find your own answers. Step after is medication and that comes with a myriad of complications.

I am truly happy help exist and I do love that medication is there for those who need it, but way too many get medication when it's not needed because we simply jump to conclusions and base it of fear or laziness. Sharing is caring and that is a big step in the right direction, feeling we are not alone. Then there are of course situations where you really do need professionals, but I do believe that almost all don't. As you said, those not knowing they are hallucinating are indeed people who do need professionals.

 

[Rickt]

Very true man! Everything regarding what most don't understand is regarded as negative and people jump to conclusions and those conclusions are almost always negative (horrible even) since we compare that to the few news articles we have read - Just look back at history, wasn't long ago medicin was considered witchcraft...

There are millions who seek understanding to what they might have seen, heard, experienced, felt etc that goes outside the norm. Depending on culture, religion, interest, knowledge, state etc usually give that certain individual a base to believe what it can be.

Where I live for example it's religious and they pray for me to communicate the spirits away, now that is not my belief at all, but it's theirs. And you can see a pattern what most have seen and what they do regarding it depending where they live and with who they live with.

As long as we can talk and share we are on a great path, telling someone to seek help is not helping most (learned that from experience in work). That will build a wall around them and things get worse. Most who seek help get worse, not better. If anyone of you have been at a psych institution (I have for friends and work) you know that they do not come out human anymore... Most are there for you to vent and asking question for you to find your own answers. Step after is medication and that comes with a myriad of complications.

I am truly happy help exist and I do love that medication is there for those who need it, but way too many get medication when it's not needed because we simply jump to conclusions and base it of fear or laziness. Sharing is caring and that is a big step in the right direction, feeling we are not alone. Then there are of course situations where you really do need professionals, but I do believe that almost all don't. As you said, those not knowing they are hallucinating are indeed people who do need professionals.

Unfortunatly we judge like it is still the dark ages. I see the light.
Get off the tracks cause its a bullet train. And you aint hulinicating it.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Very true man! Everything regarding what most don't understand is regarded as negative and people jump to conclusions and those conclusions are almost always negative (horrible even) since we compare that to the few news articles we have read - Just look back at history, wasn't long ago medicin was considered witchcraft...

There are millions who seek understanding to what they might have seen, heard, experienced, felt etc that goes outside the norm. Depending on culture, religion, interest, knowledge, state etc usually give that certain individual a base to believe what it can be.

Where I live for example it's religious and they pray for me to communicate the spirits away, now that is not my belief at all, but it's theirs. And you can see a pattern what most have seen and what they do regarding it depending where they live and with who they live with.

As long as we can talk and share we are on a great path, telling someone to seek help is not helping most (learned that from experience in work). That will build a wall around them and things get worse. Most who seek help get worse, not better. If anyone of you have been at a psych institution (I have for friends and work) you know that they do not come out human anymore... Most are there for you to vent and asking question for you to find your own answers. Step after is medication and that comes with a myriad of complications.

I am truly happy help exist and I do love that medication is there for those who need it, but way too many get medication when it's not needed because we simply jump to conclusions and base it of fear or laziness. Sharing is caring and that is a big step in the right direction, feeling we are not alone. Then there are of course situations where you really do need professionals, but I do believe that almost all don't. As you said, those not knowing they are hallucinating are indeed people who do need professionals.

Agreed, only seek professional help if the hallucinations are causing any harm or they get in the way of day to day activities (i.e. work, home life, etc.).

If you reach a depressive state where you start assuming that other people are also going through the same depressive state and you feel like you would be doing them a favor by killing them and then killing yourself, then that's a great time to see a therapist.

My advice if you ever seek medication is to go straight for the Wellbutrin. I know there is a discussion about that somewhere else on the board. Wellbutrin increases dopamine. Here is why I believe it is far superior to SSRIs. Wellbutrin is more likely to help you lose weight, SSRIs = weight gain. Wellbutrin increases your libido. SSRIs kills your libido. And the most important reason SSRIs will make you feel more depressed in the first month of use. As it's entering the body, it tricks your body into shutting off natural SSRI production causing this shitty phenomenon.

 

[jJjburton]

Agreed, only seek professional help if the hallucinations are causing any harm or they get in the way of day to day activities (i.e. work, home life, etc.).

If you reach a depressive state where you start assuming that other people are also going through the same depressive state and you feel like you would be doing them a favor by killing them and then killing yourself, then that's a great time to see a therapist.

My advice if you ever seek medication is to go straight for the Wellbutrin. I know there is a discussion about that somewhere else on the board. Wellbutrin increases dopamine. Here is why I believe it is far superior to SSRIs. Wellbutrin is more likely to help you lose weight, SSRIs = weight gain. Wellbutrin increases your libido. SSRIs kills your libido. And the most important reason SSRIs will make you feel more depressed in the first month of use. As it's entering the body, it tricks your body into shutting off natural SSRI production causing this shitty phenomenon.

Actually i cant tell sometimes auditorily, sometimes i think from substance harm, actually genetics. my mind will put together words from muiltple conversations as negative self talk. Could be minor paranoia, which runs in my family bad. But i do know its occuring, and just push it aside, and move on. Pretty sure been living with it my whole life.

 

[Big_paul]

Time to be a little cray cray!

I have since adult age started to hallucinate from time to time, I would think it has been going on for 10 years
now back and forth, but lately it has become extremely realistic.
It's always in the night of course before sleep stage, so it does correlate to night terrors or hypnagogic, but I am
fully awake and fully mobile which is the scary part.

I even smacked my girlfriend when she slept with a pillow because I saw a huge spider on her face, that was
not popular....
She knows I see stuff and she is somewhat religious, so luckily she stays.

The hallucinations are never auditory, but I can sense, feel and see. So in the case of the spider above, when he
took steps I could actually see the damn sheet getting pushed down under it's legs, so it's not just a shadow if that makes sense.

Now I have started to see people and shadows, more and more detailed. They are never malicious, just being there,
walking/ flowing around or sitting looking at you. This freaked me out extremely in the beginning, but now I am kinda
used to it and see what they do until I get bored and fall asleep.

Now me personally am a non-believer, but I have an open mind to learn about things we don't understand.
If it's spiritual or mental I cannot say, but if it's mental I am worried it might get worse and affect my life, that mean
sleep quality, reactions that are unwarranted, fear, or whatever.
I prefer to not become the crazy cat lady in Simpsons...

I did talk with someone regarding this is the past and they pushed it as stress which of course it can be, but it happens
even when all is fine.
I do not wanna eat pills, more hope to understand it.

Anyone of you with similar experiences or knowledge?

As long as you don't hurt anyone what goes on in your head should stay in your head.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Actually i cant tell sometimes auditorily, sometimes i think from substance harm, actually genetics. my mind will put together words from muiltple conversations as negative self talk. Could be minor paranoia, which runs in my family bad. But i do know its occuring, and just push it aside, and move on. Pretty sure been living with it my whole life.

Sorry to hear about the genetic paranoia. But I'm with you about substance harm. I feel my vision is getting blurry. And today I am getting random circulation type pains.

 

[BawlsDeep]

If it's spiritual or mental I cannot say,

Mental im guessing. Spiritual usually has some significance behind it that doesnt include smacking your gf with a pillow.

as a kid my life was way way more stressful. It's clear mine comes from trauma and not letting it out for the entire duration of life,.... It ruins sleep which makes it worse.

You mentioned trauma and stress a lot. As many mentioned, seeing a professional about the trauma, will probably give you peace of mind that will help your sleep. Nothing fucks me up more than lack of sleep. The only time ive had hallucinations (not psychedelic related) was lack of sleep.

Anything that affects your sleep will snowball affect all the other stressors and BS in your life.

Trauma can suppressed, even 'forgot' by the mind until it feels you are ready to deal with it. Suppressed memories, or just emotions, are common. When they are unsuppressed they can cause sleep disturbances which snowball into what you describe. Your intuition of not wanting sleep pills is wise, you need to get to the root-not the fruit- of the issue.

He heard voices and saw things. Raped his wife in front of his kid, then shot him self in the head in their living room.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeVfwDvTyM

Shadows was the beginning, just the typical passing by stuff that you see in dark corners, just something I ignored.
But the detailed stuff has become way worse.
It might be (guessing) because I don't get scared anymore, so I focus more, and my brain outline what I want to see or miss.
Kinda like the brain test pictures where you can see a dog face on a tigers body etc.

This is exactly what i get when im sleep deprived.

I personally believe there is a big jump from seeing things to shooting someone

I indirectly knew some meth abusers. That big jump is a day or two forced missed sleep when u seriously need it.

even since talking to a board of stangers rarely lead to much than funny punchlines, ....

Talking helps regardless of what you receive,

Lots of raw truth in humor. Yes, talking helps regardless, i hope you keep talking and maybe branch out to talk with a professional.

Best of luck.

 

[Hayes88]

Mental im guessing. Spiritual usually has some significance behind it that doesnt include smacking your gf with a pillow.

You mentioned trauma and stress a lot. As many mentioned, seeing a professional about the trauma, will probably give you peace of mind that will help your sleep. Nothing fucks me up more than lack of sleep. The only time ive had hallucinations (not psychedelic related) was lack of sleep.

Anything that affects your sleep will snowball affect all the other stressors and BS in your life.

Trauma can suppressed, even 'forgot' by the mind until it feels you are ready to deal with it. Suppressed memories, or just emotions, are common. When they are unsuppressed they can cause sleep disturbances which snowball into what you describe. Your intuition of not wanting sleep pills is wise, you need to get to the root-not the fruit- of the issue.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeVfwDvTyM


This is exactly what i get when im sleep deprived.

I indirectly knew some meth abusers. That big jump is a day or two forced missed sleep when u seriously need it.

Lots of raw truth in humor. Yes, talking helps regardless, i hope you keep talking and maybe branch out to talk with a professional.

Best of luck.

Sometimes you read answers and you immediately get a feeling that this is a genuinely smart, diplomatic, and kind person.

Really appreciate the responses and I am indeed coming into terms with this more and more the more I think about it and follow patterns.

I have talked with professionals before regarding other more direct issues instead of "my whole life" kind of thing, but I have been extremely disappointed, even feeling I felt worse after. Meeting the right one to talk to take often years (lottery) and then you have a lot of sessions to go through before you get a "breakthrough".

I will however change my mindset and try educate myself more on the topic of just feelings and triggers. Find a balance with the stress I currently work through, and then in that work on my older self (the supressed stuff). Additionally, I truly need to become more grateful. When I get deprived of sleep and combine that with life battles, it's easy to get lost in what you don't have or finding reasons of all the crap you feel, instead of actually seeing that stuff is pretty damn great right now.

It's one thing to know you should be happy and another to actually feel happy. This kinda branches out now to several topics, but reading these answers and also the discussions I have outside the board reminded me that I have work to do - consistent work.

 

[Inspired]

Have you ever used or do you currently use any substances like marijuana or hallucinogens?

 

[Hayes88]

Have you ever used or do you currently use any substances like marijuana or hallucinogens?

Well I have one bad experience with mushrooms 10 years ago and done xtc a few times at festivals, but never anything that pushes me towards these experiences, they've been around before any testing, in-between and long after.

I hear what you are saying though since I too have a few close ones who has done stuff at a prolonged time and stopped, but many issues persisted years after (still there today). Typically shift in personality, depression, paranoia, conspiracy theories, loss of empathy/ sympathy, self-pity and arrogance. In my experience bound to mostly marijuana, coke and meth.

 

[Inspired]

Well I have one bad experience with mushrooms 10 years ago and done xtc a few times at festivals, but never anything that pushes me towards these experiences, they've been around before any testing, in-between and long after.

I hear what you are saying though since I too have a few close ones who has done stuff at a prolonged time and stopped, but many issues persisted years after (still there today). Typically shift in personality, depression, paranoia, conspiracy theories, loss of empathy/ sympathy, self-pity and arrogance. In my experience bound to mostly marijuana, coke and meth.

Are you sure absolutely you had these "hallucinations" prior to any substance use?

If I were you, I would never touch marijuana or hallucinogenic substances ever again. Just let them be.

Around what age are you?

 

[Hayes88]

Are you sure absolutely you had these "hallucinations" prior to any substance use?

If I were you, I would never touch marijuana or hallucinogenic substances ever again. Just let them be.

Around what age are you?

This is a way too big of a leap, kinda parent talk when you were a kid. I am very sure when my experiences started and what potential triggers are. In US alone depending on study 10-25% have or currently use drugs, and now with Marijuana becoming more legal world-wide that would become an epidemic of mental disorders. This does not include medical misuse of medication.

You need to either have overdone it with substance use to a point where you have altered the chemical/ signal function/ balance in your brain, taken something extremely dangerously made, or won the worst genetic lottery. In all of the cases above, you would need meds to function daily, my issues are specifically during or before sleep, with experiences starting at a young age.

I believe more in spirits than me testing drugs a few times in the span of 10 years would cause it.

A dash of scizophrenia potentially, sleep deprivation in combination with stress and supressed trauma very likely.

 

[Rickt]

Actually i cant tell sometimes auditorily, sometimes i think from substance harm, actually genetics. my mind will put together words from muiltple conversations as negative self talk. Could be minor paranoia, which runs in my family bad. But i do know its occuring, and just push it aside, and move on. Pretty sure been living with it my whole life.

I agree that if you know what it is and how to control it there is no problem. All of us have paranoia it is part of having an ego.

 

[Inspired]

Marijuana and hallucinogenic drugs CAUSE the exact symptoms you've described. Even one use can do this. Yes, it only takes one time. Be aware of that.

I'm not against these drugs but that's the deal. There are all types of flavors of Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder (HPPD). Read about it.

 

[Rickt]

Marijuana and hallucinogenic drugs CAUSE the exact symptoms you've described. Even one use can do this. Yes, it only takes one time. Be aware of that.

I'm not against these drugs but that's the deal. There are all types of flavors of Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder (HPPD). Read about it.

Female friend of mibe for over 30 years has been a substance user . The harder the times tge harder the drug. Now she is mid 50s and struggling to believe her friends that the world isnt out to get her. She left her toothbrush over at someones place and wont go get it because the police will have bugged it.
I agree with inspired what you play with today may burn you tomorrow.
Not you hayes. This is just in general. We have chatted in private and this post isnt relevant.

 

[Hayes88]

Very true, what you describe Rickt is the same as my friends (don't want to call them friends anymore though since it drains you being there for years), but it seems to be very common with just paranoia that someone is out to get you, OR that you are right and everyone else is at fault for your life issues.

While one time use can cause mental disorders, more common in that case with one time use is in this case would be death or disability which more refers to overdose, intolerence, weak cardiovascular system, bad mix etc.., it's extremely rare (emphasize on extremely) to get e.g. what is mentioned in this post. Even HPPD mentioned if you look at a recent study talks about "flashbacks" as one type and second type being a more chronic situation. It also talks about it being random in time and fleeting in the first type and uncontrollable in second type potentially growing in intensity.

In other words, not specific in time. Rickt mentioned being asleep and awake in the same time which I love, others more commonly refer to night terrors or hypnagogic as mentioned earlier.

However, it does state quote: "most commonly diagnosed in patients with a history of preexisting psychological disturbance or chronic substance abuse".

Now an interesting part in that is how to differ something like that to e.g. schizophrenia (if you have used the stuff one time), would near be impossible to distinguish since the span to end up in that category is large as F. Similar to most on the spectrum, way way to broad. Meaning, ALL are to some degree autistic, have ADD symptoms, a Dash of OCD etc etc...

But! All of these more "serious" if you can call it that since it's so broad and messy will affect your daily routine. It would to some degree become the people me and Rickt mentioned. It would also unfortunately require medication since (likely, not certain) to gain control to a deemed "normal" functional degree. Hallucinate e.g. when you are driving a car can be outright dangerous even if shortlived.

 

[Inspired]

You are really trying to run around the marijuana and hallucinogenic substances part.

Do you use marijuana or hallucinogenic substances? Please write your exact use. Details.