Does anyone here NOT get puffy and bloated from 500-1g of test?

[ComancheChief]

Just wondering is there anyone who actually looks good with those doses without bloated puffy look?

 

[xrayphoton13]

I don't get it at all unless I majorly overeat for a few days in a row (5k+ calories). Then I balloon up and gotta diet it back off. I've noticed it's much worse with HGH than without. After experiencing it once on vacation and once at Christmas I refuse to overeat on gear from now on. Scares me too much to be bloated like that. I'm talking 20ish pounds in just a few days. No way that's good.)

 

[PaintDrinker]

Just don’t eat like a jackass, control estrogen and have an understanding of your own personal mineral retention and you will have 0 issues. Play around with 1.5G water a day and reduce salt intake until you’re face looks normal while still feeling good is my best advice.

 

[DECLAN]

The trick is remain fat and bloated then you will look the same even on 3g of test lol.

I thought it’s already common knowledge that it’s just hydration, sodium and fat levels that cause the puffy look. Even when looking watery, guys on contest shape are never puffy.

 

[Type-IIx]

The trick is remain fat and bloated then you will look the same even on 3g of test lol.

I thought it’s already common knowledge that it’s just hydration, sodium and fat levels that cause the puffy look. Even when looking watery, guys on contest shape are never puffy.

It is mostly sodium and hydration! It's driven largely by E2 that controls thirst and sodium appetite at the CNS level, and the solution is an AI.

It's more common than not @ComancheChief to have significant edema (bloat) from these doses. Not the type that makes you look like a pumpkinhead walking down the street on Halloween, but noticeable to close friends if they haven't seen you since before blasting.

As @xrayphoton13 GH brings a totally next level element to the equation, its direct effect being edema, and retention of minerals and electrolytes, Ca, K, etc. in many tissues.

 

[Anat]

When you’re blaming 500mg-1g test for the bloated look… but deep down you know.

 

[Type-IIx]

Just don’t eat like a jackass, control estrogen and have an understanding of your own personal mineral retention and you will have 0 issues. Play around with 1.5G water a day and reduce salt intake until you’re face looks normal while still feeling good is my best advice.

Good practical advice bro, that’s it

 

[Zeus45]

It is mostly sodium and hydration! It's driven largely by E2 that controls thirst and sodium appetite at the CNS level, and the solution is an AI.

It's more common than not @ComancheChief to have significant edema (bloat) from these doses. Not the type that makes you look like a pumpkinhead walking down the street on Halloween, but noticeable to close friends if they haven't seen you since before blasting.

As @xrayphoton13 GH brings a totally next level element to the equation, its direct effect being edema, and retention of minerals and electrolytes, Ca, K, etc. in many tissues.

What are your thoughts on Nolvadex having AI metabolites that possibly lower serum E2?

 

[ComancheChief]

When you’re blaming 500mg-1g test for the bloated look… but deep down you know.

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My face has slowly morphed into that lmao I took pic recently and compared it to one 2 years ago and it’s night and day.

 

[ComancheChief]

It is mostly sodium and hydration! It's driven largely by E2 that controls thirst and sodium appetite at the CNS level, and the solution is an AI.

It's more common than not @ComancheChief to have significant edema (bloat) from these doses. Not the type that makes you look like a pumpkinhead walking down the street on Halloween, but noticeable to close friends if they haven't seen you since before blasting.

As @xrayphoton13 GH brings a totally next level element to the equation, its direct effect being edema, and retention of minerals and electrolytes, Ca, K, etc. in many tissues.

So to prevent this noticeable edema on a moderate dose of 500-700mg it’s simply matter of diet and estrogen management?

 

[SBD1]

So to prevent this noticeable edema on a moderate dose of 500-700mg it’s simply matter of diet and estrogen management?

Almost entirely yes.

You won’t be peeled, but a clean diet and regulated estrogen will let you run a gram+ with only a healthy looking amount of water retention.

 

[Type-IIx]

What are your thoughts on Nolvadex having AI metabolites that possibly lower serum E2?

It’s a SERM, not an AI. Nolva’s good, though I haven’t used it in over a decade, it does block the effects of E2 on the brain and so prevents edema… not because it has AI metabolites or whatever

 

[Type-IIx]

So to prevent this noticeable edema on a moderate dose of 500-700mg it’s simply matter of diet and estrogen management?

Basically yes

 

[Stealth500]

block the effects of E2 on the brain

i had thought it's only purpose was prevention of gynecomastia.

 

[Zeus45]

i had thought it's only purpose was prevention of gynecomastia.

Nolvadex acts like estrogen in liver and bone tissue, but acts like an anti-estrogen in breast tissue.

 

[Type-IIx]

i had thought it's only purpose was prevention of gynecomastia.

No, it acts as an ER antagonist in a tissue- and cell- dependent manner, including the hypothalamus and pituitary, hence why it blocks E2 and increases T, and is used for hypogonadism. Can be, though other similar drugs have been viewed more favorably for this like enclomiphene but that’s another tangenr

 

[Deca Head]

Do you monitor your blood pressure if you’re that bloated too?

 

[Slowww]

I don’t unless I’m fat, then i get real bloated. Right now on that amount with less body fat, aromatization, BP, BG etc under control even with test and ment (which made me hold a LOT of water before) there is no bloating or moon face.

 

[Ouch]

I’ve only ran 400+ mg of just test a few times. And every time I felt like I looked like a bloated tomato. Even when E2 was only slightly elevated. But when I look back at pics of myself on those cycles I think I look better than I actually felt. There’s a mental aspect to blasting hormones too. Part of using gear I suppose

 

[TRT]

I’ve gotten very little if no side effects from anything I’ve ever taken. Only time I got a bad side effect was when I did 700mg/700mg TP and TrenA with 15iu a day. I was tired from all the food eating but I was an animal in the gym.