Does anyone here notice decreased pump when on BP meds?

[Juicedhead]

So ive been on losartan 50mg for a few months now finally got one thats not so bad after trying a few different meds for my bp. Since I have noticed that my pumps are just not the same theyre not as big id say probabaly 30-40% smaller. Now I dont know for sure if this is the reason but im trying to find out whats going on . Has anyone else seen this from bp meds? Thanks

 

[knucklesamich]

I use Entresto, my body adapts to Losartan after a few weeks and it stops working. I had the best pump of my life the other day, always looking for that pump PR haha. Running 950mg/week Test C and 500 mg/week Tren E though, so that could account for some things.

 

[Juicedhead]

I use Entresto, my body adapts to Losartan after a few weeks and it stops working. I had the best pump of my life the other day, always looking for that pump PR haha. Running 950mg/week Test C and 500 mg/week Tren E though, so that could account for some things.

would you say the lorsartan killed your pumps?

 

[Juicedhead]

I use Entresto, my body adapts to Losartan after a few weeks and it stops working. I had the best pump of my life the other day, always looking for that pump PR haha. Running 950mg/week Test C and 500 mg/week Tren E though, so that could account for some things.

dude after noticing my pumps are weak now my gaines have slowed waay down. I really believe the pump is the key to getting massive now for real its almost like im deflated looking now like before when i would get huge pumps i would look really round and full everywhere.

 

[malfeasance]

I have not used losartan, but, no, on telmisartan and metoprolol my pumps are impressively huge, causing me too stare at the mirror in arrogant self satisfaction

Wish I could stay like that all the time

 

[Liter O' Test]

how is your sodium intake?

 

[eery]

Ive found my pumps improved after taking amlodipine and candesartan. Could be a coincidence.


Could it have altered your electrolyte needs and water/hydration needs? look at your carb, sodium, potassium and water intake.

Have you made any diet changes or PED changes?

 

[lilhawk]

would you say the lorsartan killed your pumps?

Used Losartan before and Telmisartan now, but neither changed my pumps at all.

 

[Whopperflopper]

I have not used losartan, but, no, on telmisartan and metoprolol my pumps are impressively huge, causing me too stare at the mirror in arrogant self satisfaction

Wish I could stay like that all the time

Thanks Mal, I also suffer from A.S.S.H.O.L.E.

arrogant self satisfaction honestly only looking everytime....

 

[aadaam]

Yeah, Losartan might be killing your pumps—it messes with blood flow and could throw off your electrolytes. I’d take a hard look at your sodium, potassium, and water intake. Also, if you’ve changed PEDs or your diet recently, that could be part of it too.

 

[Juicedhead]

Yeah, Losartan might be killing your pumps—it messes with blood flow and could throw off your electrolytes. I’d take a hard look at your sodium, potassium, and water intake. Also, if you’ve changed PEDs or your diet recently, that could be part of it too.

nothing has really changed. I checked my bp and its 107/71 on 50mg lorsartan. I think thats too low. I will try taking some salt before I train and see if that helps.

 

[Juicedhead]

whats a good amont of sodium to take before training?

 

[skinnyprimate]

Been using Losartan (100 mg/ed) for years. It has had no effect on my pumps.

 

[Mick]

Bp meds def lower my strength. Never effected my pumps tho. Metoprolol and amlodipine both made me weaker. Not a ton, but a little. I want to try telmisartan and/or nebivolol. My bp always like 135 to 140 over 80. Would really like to see 120 over 80. Right now only using 5mg cialis and 5mg amlodipine.

 

[Ghoul]

Bp meds def lower my strength. Never effected my pumps tho. Metoprolol and amlodipine both made me weaker. Not a ton, but a little. I want to try telmisartan and/or nebivolol. My bp always like 135 to 140 over 80. Would really like to see 120 over 80. Right now only using 5mg cialis and 5mg amlodipine.

You want 120/70 or lower for the best possible long term health outcomes. I follow the major cardiology conferences in the US and Europe and they've stated the evidence supports new lower targets without any question.

The good news is you can tolerate amlodipine. When that CCB (calcium channel blocker) is combined with an ARB, the effectiveness is multiplied, without sides increasing. In this case 1+1=4

40/5 or 80/5 Telmisartan / Amlodipine, aka "Twynsta" single pills are available in generic form and will definately get you where you need to be.




Insurance will cover it, or if you're self treating, it's cheap from India pharma. Less than my copay.

 

[Mick]

You want 120/70 or lower for the best possible long term health outcomes. I follow the major cardiology conferences in the US and Europe and they've stated the evidence supports new lower targets without any question.

The good news is you can tolerate amlodipine. When that CCB (calcium channel blocker) is combined with an ARB, the effectiveness is multiplied, without sides increasing.

40/5 or 80/5 Telmisartan / Amlodipine, aka "Twynsta" single pills are available in generic form and will definately get you where you need to be.

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Insurance will cover it, or if you're self treating, it's cheap from India pharma. Less than my copay.

Thank you bro!!! What do you think about nebivolol. And what do you mean tolerate amplodipine. To ppl struggle with this medication alot? I don't think I have had any sides from it. But haven't had blood work done since starting it

 

[Ghoul]

Thank you bro!!! What do you think about nebivolol. And what do you mean tolerate amplodipine. To ppl struggle with this medication alot? I don't think I have had any sides from it. But haven't had blood work done since starting it

Amlodipine is tolerated by the overwhelming majority with no sides. It's one of the most prescribed BP drugs in the world. I've used it myself for years, alone, then combined with Valsartan, then Telm.

I only mention "tolerance" because so many here seem to complain about, especially, swollen legs/feet. This, in the rare cases it happens, usually resolves in a month after the body adjusts to it. Unfortunately, when it doesn't, it's a sign of preexisting heart failure or kidney problems.

Nebiv is best in class for what it does, but are you using it for BP or do you have high heart rate? A beta blocker is typically the last thing used when treating high BP and only as a last resort.

The most up to date standards recommend 2 or 3 low dose meds from different classes, ie, CCB, ARB, diuretic, then add beta blocker if necessary. This is considered preferable to a single med at a higher. dose.

Combo pills are the best, since patients adhere to taking one pill at a much higher rate.

Telm is the king of ARBs. It has one major advantage over the others(Valsartan, all the "artans"). one pill a day lowers the crucial early morning "surge BP". This is the primary reason people wake up to find their spouse dead, and Telm lowers it more effectively than any other BP med.

If you have insurance you can get a 90 day prescrip for the combo pills from a telemedicine doc in 5 mins for $30 or order from India PCT, Let me know if you want help with either.

 

[ackmack78]

Well the telmisartan sure isn't killing my back pumps from the anadrol

 

[Liter O' Test]

i tried amlodipine, it gave me sick pumps in my feet, felt like they were going to explode

 

[Mick]

Amlodipine is tolerated by the overwhelming majority with no sides. It's one of the most prescribed BP drugs in the world. I've used it myself for years, alone, then combined with Valsartan, then Telm.

I only mention "tolerance" because so many here seem to complain about, especially, swollen legs/feet. This, in the rare cases it happens, usually resolves in a month after the body adjusts to it. Unfortunately, when it doesn't, it's a sign of preexisting heart failure or kidney problems.

Nebiv is best in class for what it does, but are you using it for BP or do you have high heart rate? A beta blocker is typically the last thing used when treating high BP and only as a last resort.

The most up to date standards recommend 2 or 3 low dose meds from different classes, ie, CCB, ARB, diuretic, then add beta blocker if necessary. This is considered preferable to a single med at a higher. dose.

Combo pills are the best, since patients adhere to taking one pill at a much higher rate.

Telm is the king of ARBs. It has one major advantage over the others(Valsartan, all the "artans"). one pill a day lowers the crucial early morning "surge BP". This is the primary reason people wake up to find their spouse dead, and Telm lowers it more effectively than any other BP med.

If you have insurance you can get a 90 day prescrip for the combo pills from a telemedicine doc in 5 mins for $30 or order from India PCT, Let me know if you want help with either.

I suffer from slighlt elevated bp. New after age 35. I also suffer from raynauds, which is terrible in the winter. So I have been trying to see a bp of 120s over 80s just as a personal goal. And then was hoping the vaso dialater like cialis would maybe just help with the raynauds. Last night for example my bp was 139 over 82. So def hypertensive. My resting heart rate is in the high 50s sometimes 60 beats per min. Honestly the metoprolol didn't help my bp at all. Just lowered my heart rate like you said. However been reading about nebivolol and it's quite an interesting medication. I think I'll try the combo you suggested first and see what happens. Important to note I'm about 200lb ad 6ft. Under 15 percent body fat. Closer to 12. And I was on trt for a while, currently on 350mg test a week. So I'm not over weight, and my drug protocol isn't crazy. I just suffer from bp issues. Runs in the family. Been doing morning cardio, when my cardio and diet is really on the top number will come down 5 points or so. The bottom number will as well. But a perfect diet takes a toll after a while lmao