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From the American Heritage Dictionary...

liberalism
  1. The state or quality of being liberal.
    1. A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.
    2. often Liberalism The tenets or policies of a Liberal party.
  2. An economic theory in favor of laissez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard.
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This definition sounds more like the 1960s JFK rather than the current Ted Kennedy. Apparently then, being a liberal was a good thing at one time.
 
eleven11 said:
Do you young kids even know what liberalism is? todays meaning is a socialist/communist run government. 40 years ago it meant being opened minded, it doesn't have the same meaning today.

For example, JFK was a Dem. 44years ago, today he would be considered a republican. he was for a lower taxes and a strong military.

Now his brother Ted. is a liberal. big government big taxes (which he loves spending) and fuck the military.

I think liberal is all about how you define it. I would not call Kennedy a liberal, he is pretty much off the wall. I really don't take well to people discrediting me because of my age. Its not my fault I was born in 1983! Certainly, the definition of liberal and conservative is up for debate; I don't think its fair to define liberals by their extremes, just like its not fair to define conservatives by their extremes.

And judging by the erosion of checks and balances, and the changes that have occured in the name of national security; I would say this republican administration is the one that is socialist. Suprising to say the least, since republicans are usually known for limiting government, but lately there has been a grand expansion. That more than anything, is why I don't like Bush. He is tipping the balance of power in favor of the government~Sensational
 
Could you imagine a Dem. today giving the " ask not what your country can do for you, but what YOU can do for your country" speach. they'd stone his ass.....11
 
Bob Smith said:
From the American Heritage Dictionary...

liberalism
  1. The state or quality of being liberal.
    1. A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.
    2. often Liberalism The tenets or policies of a Liberal party.
  2. An economic theory in favor of laissez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard.
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This definition sounds more like the 1960s JFK rather than the current Ted Kennedy. Apparently then, being a liberal was a good thing at one time.

Yeah, that is my definition of liberal, or at least how i think of myself. Ted Kennedy is just a fucktard. Its okay though, it is only a matter of time before a heart attack or stroke cans him~Sensational
 
Sensational said:
Yeah, that is my definition of liberal, or at least how i think of myself. Ted Kennedy is just a fucktard. Its okay though, it is only a matter of time before a heart attack or stroke cans him~Sensational
We can only hope. Why is is that HE has to be the one to escape the Kennedy Curse?!
 
eleven11 said:
Could you imagine a Dem. today giving the " ask not what your country can do for you, but what YOU can do for your country" speach. they'd stone his ass.....11
LOL, that is so true.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask where we should send the check!"
 
Sensational said:
I really don't take well to people discrediting me because of my age. Its not my fault I was born in 1983!

Your right. It wasn't directed toward you personally.
But when you see the MTV and Jerry Springer generation being encuraged to vote it scares the hell out of me.
And just because I'm older than you doen't mean I'm smarter It just means I've seen more. trust me the way you think will change thru the years one way or the other.
As far as liberalism, it is what it is. you might not be as liberal as you think in fact you sound more moderate to me. I'm probably more to the center myself on allot of issues. I'm just for as small as gov. as possible and I belive those days are gone unless we blow the whole system up and start all over again.
 
Bob Smith said:
We can only hope. Why is is that HE has to be the one to escape the Kennedy Curse?!


goes to show you that you dont have to take care of yourself to live forever. he looks 100
 
eleven11 said:
Sensational said:
I really don't take well to people discrediting me because of my age. Its not my fault I was born in 1983!

Your right. It wasn't directed toward you personally.
But when you see the MTV and Jerry Springer generation being encuraged to vote it scares the hell out of me.
And just because I'm older than you doen't mean I'm smarter It just means I've seen more. trust me the way you think will change thru the years one way or the other.
As far as liberalism, it is what it is. you might not be as liberal as you think in fact you sound more moderate to me. I'm probably more to the center myself on allot of issues. I'm just for as small as gov. as possible and I belive those days are gone unless we blow the whole system up and start all over again.

Its cool bro. I agree with you about the MTV and Jerry Springer stuff. I am grumpy today because I don't have my gf anymore anyway. Take care bro~Sensational
 
Sensational said:
Its cool bro. I agree with you about the MTV and Jerry Springer stuff. I am grumpy today because I don't have my gf anymore anyway. Take care bro~Sensational


sorry to hear that , but that will in time work its self out too.........11
 
Sens, I didnt get that PM you sent me the other day, apparently my box was full.
 
I like ur fantasy about the weak dollar and foreign investment.....what an uneducated bafoon! Read young man, read, it is not to late to overcome a poor education!

As I said, anyone that can claim to be an economist can do more than copy articles off of the internet. So you believe that people want to invest more in a country with lower interest rates? Wow, that is amazing logic. Lets see, I will invest in a money that gives me the least return for my investment. That makes a lot of sense. I bet you cannot balance your own check book, let alone analyze any type of monetary policy. The bullshitters that come here are amazing. A UN economist hanging out on Meso posting quotes from George Bush who cannot articulate a single economic theory at all without using someone elses words. I bet you cannot spell UN without a dictionary let alone work there.
 
u r going to be chasing him on every thread and nver get a response.
bearze34 said:
I like ur fantasy about the weak dollar and foreign investment.....what an uneducated bafoon! Read young man, read, it is not to late to overcome a poor education!

As I said, anyone that can claim to be an economist can do more than copy articles off of the internet. So you believe that people want to invest more in a country with lower interest rates? Wow, that is amazing logic. Lets see, I will invest in a money that gives me the least return for my investment. That makes a lot of sense. I bet you cannot balance your own check book, let alone analyze any type of monetary policy. The bullshitters that come here are amazing. A UN economist hanging out on Meso posting quotes from George Bush who cannot articulate a single economic theory at all without using someone elses words. I bet you cannot spell UN without a dictionary let alone work there.
 
bearze34 said:
I like ur fantasy about the weak dollar and foreign investment.....what an uneducated bafoon! Read young man, read, it is not to late to overcome a poor education!

As I said, anyone that can claim to be an economist can do more than copy articles off of the internet. So you believe that people want to invest more in a country with lower interest rates? Wow, that is amazing logic. Lets see, I will invest in a money that gives me the least return for my investment. That makes a lot of sense. I bet you cannot balance your own check book, let alone analyze any type of monetary policy. The bullshitters that come here are amazing. A UN economist hanging out on Meso posting quotes from George Bush who cannot articulate a single economic theory at all without using someone elses words. I bet you cannot spell UN without a dictionary let alone work there.

Again fucknuts....who runs the IMF/worldbank??? Not the UN....do some research before you put out half truths or lies....again...read young man read....it will egimicate you! And yes....economist do lift and do take AS....what a surprise :D

Did they talk about the IMF or World bank at fresno state????

The large current account deficit implies that the United States has a need for continuing inflows of foreign financing, and as long as those funds are willing to come in, things can move fairly smoothly, but the reality is that the magnitude of the current account deficit is very large and that the net external liabilities of the United States are rising quite rapidly relative to both U.S. GDP and relative also to global savings


Um....let me post the article that I got of the internet AGAIN for ur question dick weed......the reason i post this is because Collyns holds a ton of weight in the econ world....much, much more than me posting shit. I work for the IMF/Worldbank and this was a press release from the IMF's Western Hemisphere Department...for which i am employed.

Recession, tax cuts and high spending for the war on terrorism have resulted in large deficits, the IMF said.

International investors could lose some confidence in the dollar, and, as a result, might invest elsewhere, affecting the United States ability to fund its deficits, Collyns said.


That could place upward pressure on interest rates, and pose risks for the US economy and rest of the world.

IMF Deputy director Charles Collyns, said international investors could also lose confidence in the dollar.

That, he said, could force them to consider investing elsewhere.

'Adverse consequences'

Noting the dollar's recent slide against the euro, UK pound, and yen, the IMF said an unrestrained drop could have serious consequences at home and abroad.


The article I posted was from the IMF....it articulates the answers to ur fucked up assumptions.....thought u would see the light????

If you would like I can tell u what IMF stands for??? Just let me know Mr. Econ 101!
 
[IMF/Worldbank and this was a press release from the IMF's Western Hemisphere Department...for which i am employed.

As I said, you cannot explain anything. All you can do is post articles you find on the internet. You are no more an economist than I am. It must be fun for you, however, to pretend to be one on the internet. Hell, in reality I am Michael Jordan. I will soon post a picture of his trading card to prove it. ROFLMAO.
 
bearze34 said:
[IMF/Worldbank and this was a press release from the IMF's Western Hemisphere Department...for which i am employed.

As I said, you cannot explain anything. All you can do is post articles you find on the internet. You are no more an economist than I am. It must be fun for you, however, to pretend to be one on the internet. Hell, in reality I am Michael Jordan. I will soon post a picture of his trading card to prove it. ROFLMAO.

ummmm....

The large current account deficit implies that the United States has a need for continuing inflows of foreign financing, and as long as those funds are willing to come in, things can move fairly smoothly, but the reality is that the magnitude of the current account deficit is very large and that the net external liabilities of the United States are rising quite rapidly relative to both U.S. GDP and relative also to global savings

At least you kept the "He works for the UN" :rolleyes: line out of this thread.....at least you have learned a little about the wb and imf.....thats good!

Again go back to fresno state or to the bank where ur employed and use ur time to read young man.....there still is hope for u....and ur pathetic argument below!

Wow, why am I not surprised that you would cut the Dems some slack? You are an economist, eh? Then, Mr. Economist, why don't you explain the difference between the raw number as pertains to our deficit as opposed to the % of the total budget and what that means and compare that to the deficits of the 80's, which was also supposed to be the downfall of our society as we knew it. Then, why don't you explain how higher interest rates actually increases foreign investment and how that affects our trade imbalance. Explain to us the ramifications of the "weak dollar" at home and abroad and how that ties into the deficit and the prices of imported goods as opposed to goods made here. Don't just make dubious statements and then not back them up. Educate us so that we may understand how the evil Mr. Bush has sent us on the path to sure ruin.

higher interest rates increase foreign investment....what a jackass....

But you are correct about one thing....u are not an economist....

And being an econmist for the WB/IMF is no big deal, they employ many employees and a shit load of contractors......but again u know shit about the wb and imf (ummm part of the un) and "he posts on meso"...and that must mean that I can't get a job at the WB/IMF?????....in fact we have a few fuck ups from fresno state just like u! do not get pissed that ur econ 101 logic doesn't add up.....even a piss poor economist or arm chair economist will tell you that large long term structural deficits are bad no matter how you slice it!!!

Weak dollar at home and how it ties into deficits...% of the total budget and what that means and compare that to the deficits of the 80's.....what a fucking joke.....get some what educated then we can have some real fun!
 
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