Early Sprint / Late Winter Cut with Semaglutide, DNP, T3, and Test C.

[TheBeast1]

Hello everyone,

This will be my first log on Meso and I hope it contributes to the value information that I have found here.
This is not my first rodeo. Previously, I ran a cut from 192 lbs to 165lbs using 200mg DNP, T3 50mcg, and 200mg test C. I ran this for 49 days. The log for this can be viewed here.

This time around, I will be incorporating my previous lessons learned regarding dieting and am including a new aid, semaglutide, to help curb the insatiable cravings I experienced.

I understand the risks involved with DNP and go into this fully aware of what needs to be done in order to mitigate risks.

Previously running this, I experienced about .4-.5 lbs of weight loss a day. As you will see in my starting pic, my musculature isn't as big as other guys since i've only been enhanced now for about a year. I expect this to

The goal of this cut is to see my abs which I expect to see around ~160lbs or get down to 10% body fat as measured on my impedance scale. Whatever happen first.

I am hoping the blast I ran this past fall will give me more defined abs and musculature than what I saw previously so I won't need to cut below 160lbs. I will maintain this weight using semaglutide for the long haul (4 months) to adjust my metabolism to a new weight.

The last time I dieted to 165lbs, I was only at 15% bodyfat which was a letdown and I was losing my mind at the time because of the cravings. I'm hoping this time it will be a lot easier.

So without further adieu, here are my stats as I start this cut today on 1/19/25:
1. 6ft tall
2. 202.6 lbs @ 22.5%BF measured on a crappy impedance scale
3. TDEE is roughly 2500-2600 calories, aiming for 2,000 calories a day and hitting 190g + of protein. Will adjust this as my weight drops and less calories are needed.
4. I work out 5 days a week with the weekend as rest days. Cardio will be included, either a jog for 10 minutes or LISS for 20-40 minutes depending on work schedule.
5. Chemicals utilized are: .25 semaglutide, 200mg DNP, 50mcg T3, and 200mg testosterone Cypionate.

Week 1 (1/19 to 1/24) I am only running the .25 semaglutide to get a sense of how the drug works alongside 200mg test C. I will not be posting weight loss updates daily.
Week 2 (1/25 and beyond) I will incorporate the 200mg DNP and 50mcg T3, beginning daily weight loss updates.

Starting pic:

 

[RekTest]

You would be better off bulking dude. 160lbs at 6ft is skeleton status.

 

[TheBeast1]

You would be better off bulking dude. 160lbs at 6ft is skeleton status.

I just finished a bulk and blast so I'm hoping to have more muscle this time around.

Unfortunately, I have a body that is stubborn at muscle growth and when I started my 500mg test C blast, I had rough side effects and water retention that required me to use a lot of ancillaries like telmisartan and nebivolol. That was the consequence of starting at too high of a body fat level.

I did get some great strength gains so I'm hoping to see that.

I want to remove the fat, get down to a very low body fat, stay there for an extended period of time, and then approach a new bulk where I won't have to deal with sides as I blast later on. I'm OK with looking like a skeleton if it means i'll be able to blast more effectively later on.

Perhaps I won't need to go down to 160lbs and will hit my 10% bodyfat goal at a higher weight. We shall see.

 

[RekTest]

I just finished a bulk and blast so I'm hoping to have more muscle this time around.

Unfortunately, I have a body that is stubborn at muscle growth and when I started my 500mg test C blast, I had rough side effects and water retention that required me to use a lot of ancillaries like telmisartan and nebivolol. That was the consequence of starting at too high of a body fat level.

I did get some great strength gains so I'm hoping to see that.

I want to remove the fat, get down to a very low body fat, stay there for an extended period of time, and then approach a new bulk where I won't have to deal with sides as I blast later on. I'm OK with looking like a skeleton if it means i'll be able to blast more effectively later on.

Perhaps I won't need to go down to 160lbs and will hit my 10% bodyfat goal at a higher weight. We shall see.

Not to be harsh brother, but you look like youve never touched a weight in your life, let alone ran a proper cycle….
If i were you in your shoes, your bf is low enough I would have kept blasting, and properly because I dont know what you were doing before…

 

[TheBeast1]

Not to be harsh brother, but you look like youve never touched a weight in your life, let alone ran a proper cycle….
If i were you in your shoes, your bf is low enough I would have kept blasting, and properly because I dont know what you were doing before…

Sucks right? I was moving 300lbs on my squat and deadlift, and 235 lbs on my bench at the end of my blast a few weeks ago. Muscle mass was always hard to build on my frame and I got back to the PRs I hit on my 20s.

I've been lifting for 10 years (lazily) and only really got serious about it last year which you can see by the results. Either way, I'll be skelator for a few months and retry for a blast again this summer with much less fat so I don't have sides blasting again.

 

[RekTest]

Muscle mass was always hard to build on my frame.

Dont be a crybaby and become bigboy420

You do you, but you need to bulk per the pictures you posted dude. Im not joking you look dyel
Whatever cycle or bulk you did you did terribly

You dont have the muscle mass to drop down 40 fucking pounds, your gonna look like a aids patient and lets not even get into the time itll take to lose that much with the tiny amount of muscle you have…

 

[iris]

Dont be a crybaby and become bigboy420

I read dnp in the title and look who I find here, lol.
Mr OG dnp himself.

It's a party here, huh?

Explosive material, thyroid material, Ozempic material.
Cin cin.

 

[Whopperflopper]

Hmm. Blasting 500 a week shouldn't have caused many serious sides. Did you get any lab work?

You have come to a fork in the road, it's your choice.

 

[TheBeast1]

Hmm. Blasting 500 a week shouldn't have caused many serious sides. Did you get any lab work?

You have come to a fork in the road, it's your choice.

I did, everything looked OK indicator wise. I managed it with telmisartan, nebivilol, and daily pinning. What did me in was the bicep tendonitis.

Either way, a cut seems appropriate at this juncture.

 

[dinfar1337]

I read your old log, you used weight loss drugs to get from 215 lbs in july to 165 lbs in august, and now you're back at 202lbs 4 months later. You've been training for 10 years and you do fuck all drugs to lose the 40 pounds in 1-2 months. then gain it all back with maybe few pounds of muscle added if any at all? Im usually not against weight loss drugs if you're using them for a quick way to get a clean base to motivate yourself to build a nice body after but my advice for you is probably to drop them, And focus on recomping, with your generous trt and a calorie deficit you'll end up better than using weight loss drugs to look skinny fat after.

 

[JG91]

Sucks right? I was moving 300lbs on my squat and deadlift, and 235 lbs on my bench at the end of my blast a few weeks ago. Muscle mass was always hard to build on my frame and I got back to the PRs I hit on my 20s.

I've been lifting for 10 years (lazily) and only really got serious about it last year which you can see by the results. Either way, I'll be skelator for a few months and retry for a blast again this summer with much less fat so I don't have sides blasting again.

And how were your lifts prior to the 500 mg cycle you did?

 

[TheBeast1]

And how were your lifts prior to the 500 mg cycle you did?

Mediocre, at 205lbs on the bench and 225lbs for the squat and deadlift.

I got a TRT script back in Feb of last year when my test levels came back at a paltry 224ng/dl and I wasn't making any gains at the gym. Prior to that they were even lower. I wasn't making any gains and getting fat when I added on calories. At least now I'm back to where I was in my 20s.

Either way , I appreciate the tough love gents. So far I'm enjoying the semaglutide.

 

[TheBeast1]

Apologies for the late update. On Jan 22nd, I came down with an awful head cold. Not sure if it was covid or something else, but ended up with a fever of 105*F . Took a few days off of the gym. Heart rate was elevated after getting sick the prior week but endurance was there so I just continued semaglutide assisted cutting. Heart rate returned to normal by end of week, gym endurance was otherwise fine.

Today, I just started 25mcg T3, 200mg regal DNP, and upped the semaglutide to .5mg. Current weight is 192.4 lbs.

Nothing to report other than feeling slightly thirstier than normal which is totally normal. The regal caps weighed in at .49mg which I found curious as the leftover caps I have from Soma were around ~.35 mg.

Returning to the gym tomorrow. Wish I got into GLP1 agonists sooner.

 

[TheBeast1]

Figured I would drop this in.

Three days into the 200mg regal DNP and 25mcg T3. Heat is starting up. The memory of this last adventure is coming back now haha.

Strength falling behind as usual but the semaglutide is a dream. Zero cravings whatsoever. I would have had better luck the last time around using this.

This past Sunday I upped the semaglutide dose from .25 to .5mg since I was having hunger come back. This ended up being 20 units on my slin pins. In retrospect, I wish I did 15 units and split the difference because yesterday I could only stomach 1500 calories. Thankfully I got my protein numbers hit when I was at 1000 calories so I enjoyed some girl scout cookies which got me up to 1500 stopping there. I really wanted to eat this sweet potato but FML one bite was just too much. I might make sweet potato casserole with these (Ruth chris' style).

Weight came in at a pleasant 189 lbs this morning. My goal calories is 2000 calories but anything less obviously is just gravy. I don't want to go too low for obvious reasons.

 

[dinfar1337]

Figured I would drop this in.

Three days into the 200mg regal DNP and 25mcg T3. Heat is starting up. The memory of this last adventure is coming back now haha.

Strength falling behind as usual but the semaglutide is a dream. Zero cravings whatsoever. I would have had better luck the last time around using this.

This past Sunday I upped the semaglutide dose from .25 to .5mg since I was having hunger come back. This ended up being 20 units on my slin pins. In retrospect, I wish I did 15 units and split the difference because yesterday I could only stomach 1500 calories. Thankfully I got my protein numbers hit when I was at 1000 calories so I enjoyed some girl scout cookies which got me up to 1500 stopping there. I really wanted to eat this sweet potato but FML one bite was just too much. I might make sweet potato casserole with these (Ruth chris' style).

Weight came in at a pleasant 189 lbs this morning. My goal calories is 2000 calories but anything less obviously is just gravy. I don't want to go too low for obvious reasons.

this is crash dieting, your strength shouldnt fall at all at your weight even cutting with 1000 calories i still get stronger with trt alone.

 

[TheBeast1]

this is crash dieting, your strength shouldnt fall at all at your weight even cutting with 1000 calories i still get stronger with trt alone.

Have you ever used DNP before?
It wasn't significant drop, more like a plateau. Over the course of the next few weeks I expect strength to drop.
That's to be expected on with dnp.

At the very least, I'm back up to 2k calories today.

 

[dinfar1337]

Have you ever used DNP before?
It wasn't significant drop, more like a plateau. Over the course of the next few weeks I expect strength to drop.
That's to be expected on with dnp.

At the very least, I'm back up to 2k calories today.

yeah, i ate around 3000 calories while on dnp and t3 on 150mg trt, just now did a clen and t3 cycle dropped calories to 2800 because i was on tren on the clen cycle. this was making me lose around 2kg a week and even tho i got stronger everytime i went gym i actually ended up losing muscle. on your stack at 86kg eating barely 1500, even lets be generous and say 2000. your bmr at 6ft tall and 86kg is 1900 calories a day. working out 5x a week will get your tdee to 2900 calories, lets say you're not super active and just watch tv on the sofa everyday, now your tdee is 2600 calories lets just assume. dnp increases your total tdee by 10-50%. giving you the absolute lowest range you'll have a tdee of 2860 calories a day now. for every 1mcg of t3 you can expect a extra 10-15kcals bmr increase. we give u the lowest range and now your tdee is 3110 calories. now lets be generous again and say you went from 210 lbs to 190lbs and only dropped 2% bodyfat. that will get your lean body mass to 152lbs and lets just say u are 20% muscle(very low female numbers), the 200mg trt a week will be generous enough to have a thermogenic effect and with the generous number of only 20% muscle mass you'll still get around extra 50-100 calories burned a day. your tdee rn at the absolute lowest is 3200 calories, and thats from calculating at your current body weight not starting body weight. Not only eating like this are you fucking your hormones, you're gonna end up skinny fat, you're gonna end up damaging your organs, your hair will fall out, your nails will be weak, your immune system will be weak, your whole body will be messed up. IM geniunely saying this to you now but you not being able to handle more than 200mg test a week is most likely organ damage and you are yet again achieving smaller balls for your physique. I doubt you're doing bloodtests but if you have any i really want to see them. i hope im wrong for your sake. AND im telling you this might seem like im just trying to lecture you, but a daily loss of 0.8lbs is a daily deficit of 2800 calories. eating 2500 calories that would mean your actual maintence is around 1500+2800 calories or 4300 calories, and that dosent include your neat is probably fucked, and your thermogenic effect of the food you'll be consuming for a maintence will be even more effective than a 30min cardio sesh. im just making an educated guess but on your current stack you probably need more around close to 4500-5000 calories to maintain your bodyweight. this is beyond crash dieting and health concering.

 

[vulpinis]

...you chose girl scout cookies over a sweet potato? while running a dnp kitchen sink protocol? Ruth Chris style? Slathered in butter and cinnamon sugar? You sure your serious? Your playing with the biggest most riskiest card in the fat loss deck and girl scout cookies are on the menu?

 

[TheBeast1]

...you chose girl scout cookies over a sweet potato? while running a dnp kitchen sink protocol? Ruth Chris style? Slathered in butter and cinnamon sugar? You sure your serious? Your playing with the biggest most riskiest card in the fat loss deck and girl scout cookies are on the menu?

Yup, isn't counting calories grand? You can eat boring food items and then treat yourself if you budget it in. Still losing weight, thanks for your post

yeah, i ate around 3000 calories while on dnp and t3 on 150mg trt, just now did a clen and t3 cycle dropped calories to 2800 because i was on tren on the clen cycle. this was making me lose around 2kg a week and even tho i got stronger everytime i went gym i actually ended up losing muscle. on your stack at 86kg eating barely 1500, even lets be generous and say 2000. your bmr at 6ft tall and 86kg is 1900 calories a day. working out 5x a week will get your tdee to 2900 calories, lets say you're not super active and just watch tv on the sofa everyday, now your tdee is 2600 calories lets just assume. dnp increases your total tdee by 10-50%. giving you the absolute lowest range you'll have a tdee of 2860 calories a day now. for every 1mcg of t3 you can expect a extra 10-15kcals bmr increase. we give u the lowest range and now your tdee is 3110 calories. now lets be generous again and say you went from 210 lbs to 190lbs and only dropped 2% bodyfat. that will get your lean body mass to 152lbs and lets just say u are 20% muscle(very low female numbers), the 200mg trt a week will be generous enough to have a thermogenic effect and with the generous number of only 20% muscle mass you'll still get around extra 50-100 calories burned a day. your tdee rn at the absolute lowest is 3200 calories, and thats from calculating at your current body weight not starting body weight. Not only eating like this are you fucking your hormones, you're gonna end up skinny fat, you're gonna end up damaging your organs, your hair will fall out, your nails will be weak, your immune system will be weak, your whole body will be messed up. IM geniunely saying this to you now but you not being able to handle more than 200mg test a week is most likely organ damage and you are yet again achieving smaller balls for your physique. I doubt you're doing bloodtests but if you have any i really want to see them. i hope im wrong for your sake. AND im telling you this might seem like im just trying to lecture you, but a daily loss of 0.8lbs is a daily deficit of 2800 calories. eating 2500 calories that would mean your actual maintence is around 1500+2800 calories or 4300 calories, and that dosent include your neat is probably fucked, and your thermogenic effect of the food you'll be consuming for a maintence will be even more effective than a 30min cardio sesh. im just making an educated guess but on your current stack you probably need more around close to 4500-5000 calories to maintain your bodyweight. this is beyond crash dieting and health concering.

I appreciate the post but please man, paragraphs.

I get labs, several times a year. This is the stuff I've done myself and I've got several more from the PCP doc. What do you want to know?

 

[JG91]

Yup, isn't counting calories grand? You can eat boring food items and then treat yourself if you budget it in. Still losing weight, thanks for your post

I think you should be more open to criticisms. You did a DNP cut before and then four months later you've decided you need to cut again. Maybe you aren't making the best dietary choices. And I think the other guy is right in that you may end up losing the muscle you gained in that bulk session.

In total this will be 4 months on out of 8 that you are on DNP? I'm actually a DNP advocate because it's a tool to be used. But it's a fine line between use and abuse.