inkandmuscle
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Oh I'm not planning on using tren yet lol just learning about it.. I'm on 750 test/500 deca atm
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Educate me on trenbolone.
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HuckingFuge
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you are going to get Tren sides regardless of your Test dose. I believe the low dose Test to Tren is a placebo effect people are getting. you will still sweat your ass off, you will still have insomnia, and you will have difficulty with stamina, unless you don't run Tren.
lmao ink huckingfuge once again proves his idiotic intelligence. less test means less e2 aromatization. estrogen provokes prolactin via biological mechanism therefor you get more 19 nor sides. ink becareful wjo you take advice from. in all seriousness read that idiots posts and itll speak for itself.
HuckingFuge
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yes be careful who you take advice from. than why run Test at all? oh yeah for you weak dick people.
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inkandmuscle
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From my reading its a split camp.. it seems a bunch of people run low test/high tren and on the flipside just as many run high test/high tren or high test/moderate tren...
also read in the old school days low test was unheard of even when guys where converting finaplix to run tren
also read in the old school days low test was unheard of even when guys where converting finaplix to run tren
HuckingFuge
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I love finaplix
you won't know how your body reacts until you do it. you can read what he said or she said, means nothing until you actually try it. that will be the only way you will know how your body will react. to many educated idiots on here. they read something and it must be fact. when it's not even close to fact. there has not been a study of Tren on humans, so for them to say it will act this way or that way is all theory. a lot of theories out there but nothing to prove one way or the other.
hey dumbass, you run test at low levels so you can maintain normal bodily fuctions.
HuckingFuge
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Educated idiot here...
Isn't Tren all anabolic and not all androgenic?
It shuts down your natty Test production, but does not give any of the good things that come with androgens, like sex drive, boners, etc.
Since Tren does not convert to E2, don't you need a little test to convert to E2?
Never run it before, just parroting what I've read.
Isn't Tren all anabolic and not all androgenic?
It shuts down your natty Test production, but does not give any of the good things that come with androgens, like sex drive, boners, etc.
Since Tren does not convert to E2, don't you need a little test to convert to E2?
Never run it before, just parroting what I've read.
HuckingFuge
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no, Tren is 500/500 and Test is 100/100. Tren doesn't convert, but that doesn't mean you have no E2. I have done plenty of Tren only cycles and never had a boner issue. I have done plenty of Deca only cycles and never had a boner issue. some people may get that issue, but I'm doubting it is the majoring. there is more than one way to do anything. Testosterone is not set in stone as a must for any cycle. Testosterone is nice and I like it, but a lot of your sides come from Testosterone.
I first ran tren after having about 4-5 cycles under my belt. I had all the typical sides, but it was nothing out of control vs the results I was yielding. I've always run my test higher because that's how I was initially taught and I accomplished my goals and more, so I figure, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Like so many others have said though, it comes down to ones own physiology. You won't ever know until you experience it for yourself, but the dad in me must say this, BE CAREFUL!! 21 is a great age and you still have biology on your side. I know you're going to do what you want, but it's the most anabolic compound for a reason. Good luck my man
4leafclover
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I'm pretty sure you'll be running tren soon, if this follows your previous pattern of asking some q's, then saying the 21 yr old stuff, then running the compound. No matter what anyone says, you're going to do what you want, but I feel like you're headed for a train-wreck sometime in your near future.
Now that my rant is done, time to address another thing mentioned about Tren and no studies conducted with humans in mind. It would be more accurate to say, not nearly as much research has been done on tren as with other AAS compounds on humans.
This study covers a wide variety of trenbolone properties and methodology.
http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/content/70/2/202.full
The conclusion (a portion of the study) for humans is below, trenbolone referred to as TB hereafter:
In summary, this study confirms that in vitro TB is a high affinity ligand for both the rat and human AR and also induces AR-dependent gene expression with a potency equal to or greater than DHT. Along with its AR agonist activity, TB also acted as a GR antagonist in vitro.
Now that my rant is done, time to address another thing mentioned about Tren and no studies conducted with humans in mind. It would be more accurate to say, not nearly as much research has been done on tren as with other AAS compounds on humans.
This study covers a wide variety of trenbolone properties and methodology.
http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/content/70/2/202.full
The conclusion (a portion of the study) for humans is below, trenbolone referred to as TB hereafter:
In summary, this study confirms that in vitro TB is a high affinity ligand for both the rat and human AR and also induces AR-dependent gene expression with a potency equal to or greater than DHT. Along with its AR agonist activity, TB also acted as a GR antagonist in vitro.
lmao ok take huckingfuges advice and do a tren only cycle 
let me know how that dick pops ink
let me know how that dick pops ink
Deca only cycles too? man you are just an explorer you stud
HuckingFuge
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lmao ok take huckingfuges advice and do a tren only cycle
Deca only cycles too? man you are just an explorer you stud
you weak dick guys take everything I say out of context. I'm glad you guys know everything. stop trying to be everyone's big brother, cause you are not. I can't help it you can't think or experiment on your own to see if everything you read is true or not. I have proved a lot of what you preach to be fact wrong, so STFU!
Heavygear
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TRen was never tested or studied on humans, well that should be so reassuring for anyone taking it eh ? Risk vs Reward ? I think I'll pass.
Ozzy619
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TRen was never tested or studied on humans, well that should be so reassuring for anyone taking it eh ? Risk vs Reward ? I think I'll pass.
If you're eating American beef you're consuming tren
I've lowered my test to a maintenace level and really liking it. Now I feel Im getting the full effects of the tren and I've noticed my sides are alot better. This is my personal experience thus far.
inkandmuscle
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Lol alright guys, too much drama in this thread and im not one to take sides.. just let it die.
Appreciate yalls input..
Appreciate yalls input..
hotdog23
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Here's my tren story
I have had the worst, gut wrenching anxiety this past week.. An I know it's the tren. I am usually a pretty cool, confident individual. Somethin like a player. NOT LATELY, neurotic and compulsive. Panic attacks while speaking or being in public. Almost unbearable. I got 2 pins left before I switch to prop and dbol for last 4 weeks. So ima finish it lol. Oh this is at 500 test/ 350 tren. Been fine for 4 weeks up until now. It happened early in my cycle too but I switched labs and dropped dose an it went away. Absolutely terrible tho. Be warned
I have had the worst, gut wrenching anxiety this past week.. An I know it's the tren. I am usually a pretty cool, confident individual. Somethin like a player. NOT LATELY, neurotic and compulsive. Panic attacks while speaking or being in public. Almost unbearable. I got 2 pins left before I switch to prop and dbol for last 4 weeks. So ima finish it lol. Oh this is at 500 test/ 350 tren. Been fine for 4 weeks up until now. It happened early in my cycle too but I switched labs and dropped dose an it went away. Absolutely terrible tho. Be warned
21? Too young to even be starting AAS, but certainly too young to be experimenting with how much you can manage, especially something like 100 mg Tren ED. You are getting a lot of short foresight, go for it kid, kind of advice.
My advice is, first, workout hard & skip the AAS until you're 25. You won't do that, so my second advice, is find a pattern you like, say 500 mg/wk of Test with maybe EQ, and stick with it until you know it well. Third, CYCLE, that means coming off all supplements until your testosterone levels have returned to normal (probably leaving only two long or three short AAS cycles per year). Fourth, like others have said, impulsive guys like you've described yourself should be especially careful with using potent substances like Tren. You can't predict how you'll react. Start with Tren ace at a low dose like 100 mg 3x EW. Stick with that for six weeks. Last: You've got your whole life before you. Plan for a long, healthy run with slow, steady upgrades. No need to shut yourself down permanently too young and putting those vital organs under unnecessary stress.
Respects,
Solo
My advice is, first, workout hard & skip the AAS until you're 25. You won't do that, so my second advice, is find a pattern you like, say 500 mg/wk of Test with maybe EQ, and stick with it until you know it well. Third, CYCLE, that means coming off all supplements until your testosterone levels have returned to normal (probably leaving only two long or three short AAS cycles per year). Fourth, like others have said, impulsive guys like you've described yourself should be especially careful with using potent substances like Tren. You can't predict how you'll react. Start with Tren ace at a low dose like 100 mg 3x EW. Stick with that for six weeks. Last: You've got your whole life before you. Plan for a long, healthy run with slow, steady upgrades. No need to shut yourself down permanently too young and putting those vital organs under unnecessary stress.
Respects,
Solo
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