Enhanced Testing Database

A new option emerges...


Domestic premium line. Appears to be a trial offering to gauge interest. 7 usd extra per vial.

Well done on setting a new bar for QC surveillance.

Feedback from @keenpen. Thanks for taking the time to provide that info.


 
So apparently @readalot is bending sources to his will by repeatedly (and some say aggressively) pressuring sources to do more testing.

Obviously, these have been direct discussions with the sources in question in their relevant threads. However, so many members feel compelled to answer on behalf of the sources thereby taking the pressure off them.

Maybe it's a good idea to allow the sources to answer and respond for themselves and give their reasons for agreeing or disagreeing to perform the additional testing. Allow sources to speak for themselves and defend their decisions.

BTW, here's a thread that indirectly speaks to this as well that you may enjoy reading:
stop addressing other consumer complaints
stop asking to pay more money (AKA ITS SO CHEAP WOO)
stop giving them reasons to raise the prices
stop trying to negotiate
stop giving them business "ideas"
stop groveling for simply giving you the product you paid for
stop forming para-social relationships
stop being a coward
We could add:

stop giving them reasons to avoid performing more testing
If someone has a complaint with their dish at a restaurant, do you chime in and defend the chef?
 
So apparently @readalot is bending sources to his will by repeatedly (and some say aggressively) pressuring sources to do more testing.

Obviously, these have been direct discussions with the sources in question in their relevant threads. However, so many members feel compelled to answer on behalf of the sources thereby taking the pressure off them.

Maybe it's a good idea to allow the sources to answer and respond for themselves and give their reasons for agreeing or disagreeing to perform the additional testing. Allow sources to speak for themselves and defend their decisions.

BTW, here's a thread that indirectly speaks to this as well that you may enjoy reading:

We could add:

stop giving them reasons to avoid performing more testing
Actually the one right above (Hypertrophy) did on his own as i never directly asked him.


My hypothesis is this testing will catch on as a competitive diffentiator and then eventually a standard. I hope the customer testing credits are supported on these added tests as well.

Appreciate your thoughts as always. Thanks for allowing me to share the data as it comes it even on the other site. I really respect that.
 
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Appreciate your thoughts as always. Thanks for allowing me to share the data as it comes it even on the other site. I really respect that.
This notion that there are "meso sources" and you're not supposed to talk about "non-meso sources" is stupid.

First of all,

MESO
IS
NOT
A
SOURCE
FORUM

THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS MESO SOURCES.

MESO is not a source forum no matter how many people try to make it into one.

Source forums pick and choose who is allowed to be discussed and participate. And most forums ARE source forums by this definition - and usually it is the admins or mods who make the decision.

MESO is obviously vastly different in this regard because the admin/mod doesn't do this.

Of course, in the absence of such top-down control of participation, individuals/groups often try to fill the void, exert control, and turn MESO into a source forum using whatever means they have available to them to pick and choose who can participate (and whose customers can participate).

The thing is that MESO IS A HARM REDUCTION FORUM.

It is intended as reflection of the entire underground AAS marketplace from the best/most popular sources to the worst/least popular sources and everything in between.

The goal is to hold all of them accountable for their products/services and pressure them to reduce potential harm in any way possible. And as a forum dedicated to harm reduction, the objective is accept individuals consumers where they are and move them towards making safer/less risky decisions.

So, yeah. You can discuss any source from any place here.
 
This notion that there are "meso sources" and you're not supposed to talk about "non-meso sources" is stupid.

First of all,

MESO
IS
NOT
A
SOURCE
FORUM

THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS MESO SOURCES.

MESO is not a source forum no matter how many people try to make it into one.

Source forums pick and choose who is allowed to be discussed and participate. And most forums ARE source forums by this definition - and usually it is the admins or mods who make the decision.

MESO is obviously vastly different in this regard because the admin/mod doesn't do this.

Of course, in the absence of such top-down control of participation, individuals/groups often try to fill the void, exert control, and turn MESO into a source forum using whatever means they have available to them to pick and choose who can participate (and whose customers can participate).

The thing is that MESO IS A HARM REDUCTION FORUM.

It is intended as reflection of the entire underground AAS marketplace from the best/most popular sources to the worst/least popular sources and everything in between.

The goal is to hold all of them accountable for their products/services and pressure them to reduce potential harm in any way possible. And as a forum dedicated to harm reduction, the objective is accept individuals consumers where they are and move them towards making safer/less risky decisions.
Easy to say. You DO it and PROVE it through your ACTIONS.

Meanwhile...
PM.webp
 
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A new option emerges...


Domestic premium line. Appears to be a trial offering to gauge interest. 7 usd extra per vial.

Well done on setting a new bar for QC surveillance.
**Matrix Floater Alert! **

Unsure which batches affected. Please see threads.


 
Update. Kudos to Matrix.


This is how you address the issue. Transparency. Take notes @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals. Visible particulates in finished oils are completely unacceptable. Period.
 
Update. Kudos to Matrix.


This is how you address the issue. Transparency. Take notes @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals. Visible particulates in finished oils are completely unacceptable. Period.

Interesting how a member was talking about the equipment (or lack of) that was used and about issues with sterility testing that were also brought up here by various members:


"And this is a good example of how "sterility" testing on a SINGLE vial may reveal clean, but other vials in the lot have debris and may not be sterile. Some of the RTF vials may have been totally fine, while others were "dirty". "

Do you think that, in this particular scenario, his other comment is warranted?

"The take away from that post is “make sure they have an autoclave before requesting the enhanced testing”. Having that advanced testing results isn’t meaningful otherwise."
 
Interesting how a member was talking about the equipment (or lack of) that was used and about issues with sterility testing that were also brought up here by various members:


"And this is a good example of how "sterility" testing on a SINGLE vial may reveal clean, but other vials in the lot have debris and may not be sterile. Some of the RTF vials may have been totally fine, while others were "dirty". "

Do you think that, in this particular scenario, his other comment is warranted?

"The take away from that post is “make sure they have an autoclave before requesting the enhanced testing”. Having that advanced testing results isn’t meaningful otherwise."
Keep reading the subsequent posts. More after that.

Loads of entertainment since it's now been confirmed BBBG and I are one in the same. LOL. /s
 
Given the Matrix floater fiasco, I am taking BBBG's advice and focusing on floaters since many can't seem to solve that.

Very nice responses by Hypertrophy.

Here you go @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals, read up.

You are welcome.

Does this one count or am I overblowing it? It seems to have been buried under dog pics over at the GA thread.
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