RandallFlagg
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Gentlemen - I just wanted to share a movie I was watching recently... it's a banger!
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readalot
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Yeah, vendor tears into member for simple, construtive dialogue on improvements suggested then switches to member mode for more fun. No issue there. It's let go for the record.Gentlemen - I just wanted to share a movie I was watching recently... it's a banger!
readalot
Member
Thanks. Sounds wonderful. Appreciate it. Really.
narta
Member
Read, I hope you do drugs, because having that bad of a trip without the fun is awful.
readalot
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Spaceman Spiff
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I like how you keep having to link SST involved to try to join the community/conversation
iris
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Concerned member.
OK, I am thick, like Narta often likes to remind me.
Spell it out for me:
WHAT DOES SPACEMAN GET OUT OF THIS?
OUT OF THE HASSLE OF BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU, WHEN HE CAN JUST SHUT UP AND GET ON WITH IT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Have various individuals in mind, surely you do.
Other people buy raws and get them tested and post the results like he does.
The only difference is that they do not want to waste time arguing with you.
Do they care about your testing campaing?
Are they trying to stop it like you say Spaceman is doing?
No, you say, they do not come here and have a go at you like he does.
And so that means Spaceman has ulterior/nefarious motives and they don't.
That's nonsense.
And I bet Narta's yearly income that they make/sell/resell high amounts of stuff.
Why don't you tag those peole and ask what they think about your protocol, why they hide away instead of engaging with you like Spiff does, why they don't add gcms to their raw tests and then post it here, what they do with those raws and all the massive orders from qsc.
Because they are doing the same thing you are accusing Spaceman of doing.
Minus the online rage.
I have already asked you this in a previous message here, when this thing started.
So, there comes a point when it is just you two hating each other's guts and that's it. Nothing else behind it.
RandallFlagg
Member
Bro - I like you.
I legitimately think we'd get along in real life.
I'm not trying to interfere with your business...but you can't let this past consume you. Whatever history you have with Spaceman/Rido/Crido or whatever...he isn't a source anymore (if I'm understanding correctly).
You both agreed you can't reach a common ground. So we can keep having this internet pissing contest...or breath and realize it often doesn't matter who is actually right. Sometimes its just about walking away (Lord knows that's the only way I've stayed married...lol)
I'm truly not preaching at just @readalot or anyone else directly....it ain't my place. My daddy kicked the shit out of me JUST enough to allow me to accept the things I can and can't change...or something like that.
I'm just a passing internet stranger...we can live to "fight" another day or get banned. There...has...got...to...be....a...better...way to go about this when shit goes south.
I don't give a shit who started what (I've laid out how I see things have gone down... doesn't make me any more right or wrong). Eventually we gotta just stop the bickering and realize it's just a forum for harm reduction. IGNORE has got to be an option.
(Maybe I haven't been here long enough to see this cycle but man, things have gone to shit without QSC.... yikes, never thought I would say that). This too shall pass.
T-Bagger
Elite
Well spoken and LOL about the still married part.
You had me reeled in until this statement. Since QSC has been gone it’s been nothing but beautiful days with the birds chirping a bit louder than normal for me personally. You would have had to of seen this place pre-QSC to feel what I feel tho. The mother fucking wicked witch is dead. Well, I mean I’m sure they will come back but for now let me savor this moment.
readalot
Member
Ethics. I know you understand. Go look at entire post history and encounters that pit members against sources. Notice a pattern. Complete antithesis of Millard's FAQ just posted that preaches why conflicts are to be avoided and dislosure is critical.
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You'll also note Rido started all this with me before stopping his business. Then re-engaged as a member with zero disclosure. A tad problematic for new members coming here not understanding the nature of what is going on here and how you have "members" steering threads and sympathetic to sources.
So good to know. MESO has members and "members". Zero transparency.
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Spaceman Spiff
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Ethics. I know you understand. Go look at entire post history and encounters that pit members against sources. Notice a pattern. Complete antithesis of Millard's FAQ just posted that preaches why conflicts are to be avoided and dislosure is critical.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
You'll also note Rido started all this with me before stopping his business. Then re-engaged as a member with zero disclosure. A tad problematic for new members coming here not understanding the nature of what is going on here and how you have "members" steering threads and sympathetic to sources.
So good to know. MESO has members and "members". Zero transparency.
readalot
Member
Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
Keep bringing drama in from another forum. Trying to link the forums acting like a big baby.
Don't be upset that the majority of Internet forums you were a part of don't like you.
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Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
Gonna get the hell out of this thread for a bit.
I'm over it. He already proved my point.
Atleast people can look over his behavior and make their own judgement.
I'm over it. He already proved my point.
Atleast people can look over his behavior and make their own judgement.
RandallFlagg
Member
My brother in Christ... you're a goddam pitbull that won't put down the bone.
I don't know shit about Spaceman aside from he is your arch-nemesis. I think I've learned more about him today than I ever intended to learn about anyone on MESO.
Your links suggest he clearly indicated his status when he was selling/sourcing and when he stopped in 2023. (I don't recall if he clearly indicated "Spaceman = Crido" but it doesn't seem like he ever hid from that fact).
Yes, there is clearly a long history of him knocking your testing efforts...and you two will clearly never eat a Thanksgiving meal together...but to keep linking back to ancient history is...not...healthy.
I have fully supported your enhanced testing mission. Now this...mission to "expose" Spaceman...well, either you know something you're not sharing, or it's something you just gotta drop. (Ok... I hope I'll make this my last intrusion as I understand it's not my fight...but I am actually kinda arguing with BOTH OF YOU....Spaceman and Readalot...just call a fucking truce for 24 hours and see if shit's a little less blinding in a day or two).
(Or perhaps a ban truly is the only way these things get resolved...back to an AA mantra for me about wisdom to know the difference and shit...).
readalot
Member
You had no business in here to begin with. Didn't contribute anything productive to this thread. Period.
Did I miss the sign on the door showing who was allowed in this thread? I don’t think you know your audience. There are many here who either were a source, are a source or are using an alt account to hide that they are a source. Hell, most home brewers have some sales. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t be allowed to contribute and post here. Take spiff, dude test a lot of raws and products. Are we not supposed to look at those and completely discredit them because he was briefly a source a while back? If that’s the case why do we ask sources to test raws and products?
Take a step back and realize that you are now doing more harm than good to harm reduction with your bitterness.
readalot
Member
Don't try to spin it. I was referring specifically to SS. He did not come to this thread for any productive dialogue. Or anything productive. I've welcomed sources here and asked them to post their tests. And they did and i hope they will continue to do so.
SS was here for a different reason.
And no, I didn't discredit his testing. But you know that.
I hope that's clear.
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readalot
Member
I didn't take the proper time to tell you that you are a great writer. It's almost wrong that someone can write so well and engaging on an AAS forum. Fitting that forum should be MESO.
I admire greatness. You Sir, have it. Thank you for your continued constructive dialogue and attempts to bring about a cease fire. Thank you Sincerely.
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