Ephedrine vs. pseudoephedrine

Jono1971

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In australia, ephedrine is a prescription medicine and a prohibited import, thus the ECA combo isnt avaliable

Would the easily avaliable pseudoephedrine (as in Sudafed tablets) be a useful substitute?
 
Not really. Psuedo-e wont be nearly as thermogenic and most people experience more side effects with psuedo than with the real thing.
 
I never found even ephedrine to be much of a thermogenic, much less pseudoephedrine. However, for something like a pre-workout stimulant, a few sudafed will do the trick.
 
"a few'

a standard tablet here is 60mg, the recomended dose is 1 tablet.... how many would you take (theoreticly of course :-)

i was thinking of 1 Sudafed and 1 No-Doz before heading to the gym 9alternate days)
 
Try that and see what happens. I have personally never taken sudafed pre-WO before, but I know a few people who do. I'll prob see one guy at the gym tonight and I'll ask him how he does it.
 
J DUB said:
Try that and see what happens. I have personally never taken sudafed pre-WO before, but I know a few people who do. I'll prob see one guy at the gym tonight and I'll ask him how he does it.

I'm going to hyjack this thread and ask if anyone knows the best place to buy a good ol' ECA stack in this great country of prohibition. :eek:
 
THL said:
I'm going to hyjack this thread and ask if anyone knows the best place to buy a good ol' ECA stack in this great country of prohibition. :eek:
HAHAHA...well my good pal THL..i just mozy on down to the corner mart and buy as many as I want...wait, they put a two bottle limit on us now. Bastards.

Still gettin it here in the dirty south. Pseudoephedrine makes my nose stop up when i take it. It has reverse sides on me.
 
Yeah, I have heard that some gas stations and truck stops, esp. in rural areas, still carry it. Other than that, I don't know. I am surprised that no Chinese manufacturers carry it in raw form, because it would be easy to import and cap yourself.
 
J DUB said:
Yeah, I have heard that some gas stations and truck stops, esp. in rural areas, still carry it. Other than that, I don't know. I am surprised that no Chinese manufacturers carry it in raw form, because it would be easy to import and cap yourself.

Thanks guys. The only problem is that all the ones I've seen around here all have the big, bold type: Ephedrine Free! It's kind of fucked up that a person can get meth around here without a problem but you cant find a good eca stack anywhere. I'm sure a mca stack would drop some weight but I don't really want to go there. I'd probably look just like this :eek:
 
That's the beauty of the black market for ya...when I was a teenager it was much easier to get a sack of marijuana than it was to get a 12 pack of Budweiser.

On a similar note, if steroids were taken off the black market and put back into the hands of physicians to be given to adults who had a desire to take them, then it is likely that teenagers and others who have no business taking them would not be able to get them as easily, just as is the case with my example WRT marijuana and alcohol.
 
THL said:
Thanks guys. The only problem is that all the ones I've seen around here all have the big, bold type: Ephedrine Free! It's kind of fucked up that a person can get meth around here without a problem but you cant find a good eca stack anywhere. I'm sure a mca stack would drop some weight but I don't really want to go there. I'd probably look just like this :eek:
I can walk....ok, ok who am I kidding...I can drive 5 blocks to a suburban gas station and buy pure ephedrine. You dont need to be rural in order to still be able to get the good stuff.
 
Bob Smith said:
Not really. Psuedo-e wont be nearly as thermogenic and most people experience more side effects with psuedo than with the real thing.

However, a little research and a few household, automotive and farming chemicals and you can turn that pseudo-ephedrine in the fat burning monster known as meth.




btw, I'm just kidding. I don't recommend meth for weight loss. Or even just for fun because it really isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Uhhhhhh, or so I've heard. ;)
 
Grizzly said:
However, a little research and a few household, automotive and farming chemicals and you can turn that pseudo-ephedrine in the fat burning monster known as meth.




btw, I'm just kidding. I don't recommend meth for weight loss. Or even just for fun because it really isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Uhhhhhh, or so I've heard. ;)
I was watching a police show on that yesterday. What a bunch of crack(figure of speech) addicts these people are to make the shit in their houses with their kids there and smoke snort and inject that shit all day every day. Man,i would kill myself before i lived like that.
 
Well, if nothing else, my sinuses will be nice and clear as i work out.

Because of the meth problem, you can now only buy Sudafed in a pharmacy here, you have to shop the pharmacist photographic ID which he recors, and you cant buy more than 30 tablets
 
Jono1971 said:
Well, if nothing else, my sinuses will be nice and clear as i work out.

Because of the meth problem, you can now only buy Sudafed in a pharmacy here, you have to shop the pharmacist photographic ID which he recors, and you cant buy more than 30 tablets
I really don't see BBers having much of a problem getting ephedrine since we have no problems getting anything else for BBing purposes
 
true enough..... in australia most of the anabloics are diverted from vetrinary sorces, I would think it would be easier to get roids than ephedrine!

the nanny state gone mad!
 
Yeah, I work for Child Protective Services here in Vegas (You could imagine the stories I could tell ya all, but what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas :0) anyway 95% of the cases I get are parents on Meth...its a fucking epedemic. Nasty drug! ruining our society. I like to eat and sleep and like my teeth and skin too much I guess. Oh and if your interested in statistics. I reunify about 5% of the familes the other 95% of the kids go to long term foster care, adoption or relatives care. The sad part is the Judges here would lock you up longer for steroid use than Meth use because if you use Meth your a poor victim of drug addiction.
 
Grizzly said:
However, a little research and a few household, automotive and farming chemicals and you can turn that pseudo-ephedrine in the fat burning monster known as meth.




btw, I'm just kidding. I don't recommend meth for weight loss. Or even just for fun because it really isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Uhhhhhh, or so I've heard. ;)
I heard on the radio yesterday that they busted a guy in Georgia (I think it was Georgia) with ~300 pounds of meth!
 
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