EQ for the first time

[Mastedon]

Theres alot more to bloodwork than just hormones, lol , Its always good for you if you disclose ALL ( whatever you want ) bloodwork because eq messes with few other "health markers " you should also monitor closely, just m.o.

Yeah I have a ton of labs including CBC, lipids, GGT, Iron panel, etc. and even done some deep diving into Alzheimer's testing for APOE and PTau 217.

I'm happy to share all that stuff here. I've been managing my lipids with Pitavastatin and Nexlizet and very excited to say that I've dropped my LDL from 102 to 44 and my ApoB from 103 to 50.

Anyway here's some more labs but tell me if there's something specific you want to see.

This is at 4IUs a night, I've since backed down to 2.

 

[Ateam2023]

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Yeah I have a ton of labs including CBC, lipids, GGT, Iron panel, etc. and even done some deep diving into Alzheimer's testing for APOE and PTau 217.

I'm happy to share all that stuff here. I've been managing my lipids with Pitavastatin and Nexlizet and very excited to say that I've dropped my LDL from 102 to 44 and my ApoB from 103 to 50.

Anyway here's some more labs but tell me if there's something specific you want to see.
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This is at 4IUs a night, I've since backed down to 2.

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which test did you take targeting Alzheimers ?

 

[Mastedon]

which test did you take targeting Alzheimers ?

Bought both through Fitomics and tested at Labcorp
--- APOE Alzheimer's Disease Risk
---Phosphorylated Tau 217 (pTau-217), Plasma

First one is normally $626 but was $199 on Fitomics
Second one normally $544 but was $354 on Fitomics
I then got an additional 20% off of the $199 and $354.

Results for APOE were E3/E3 which is good news.
There are two sets of E variants (one from each parent) and both of mine were E3...
E4 is the one that signals a higher chance of Alzheimer's with E4/E4 being higher than E3/E4.

APOE test is genetics but PTau 217 tells you how much PTau is in your Plasma. I was 0.15 which is in the lower range (0.0 would be best). Some have less than 0.185 as negative while others have less than 0.13 as negative.
Next range is indeterminate or uncertain and the highest range being Positive.

 

[BigDadd7]

I am an e2 super converter, even on lower test. I'm considering adding some eq to minimize AI usage. I understand there will be e1, but i want to lower this e2.

 

[Mastedon]

I am an e2 super converter, even on lower test. I'm considering adding some eq to minimize AI usage. I understand there will be e1, but i want to lower this e2.

Yeah me too so it'll be interesting to see where things land and if I up the EQ or decrease test...or maybe this 3:5 Test:EQ ratio works out. I want to find out what my ratio is without AI.

 

[Ateam2023]

I am an e2 super converter, even on lower test. I'm considering adding some eq to minimize AI usage. I understand there will be e1, but i want to lower this e2.

I would be interested in your approach, i too am a high e2 responder on just trt doses ,

 

[BigDadd7]

I would be interested in your approach, i too am a high e2 responder on just trt doses ,

Im going to somewhat follow the approach mastedon is using. I'm a big fan of bloodwork. I have a baseline e2 on 250 test. After 4 weeks of 150 eq, I'll pull more bloods and adjust from there.

 

[Damaged1]

Damn Crit in the 40's on 550EQ is pretty good.

Im stocking up on EQ for my next run, cant wait to give it a try.

Primo is expensive and the 200mg/ml im running requires some mixing with other compounds and heat to pin with minimal PIP.

I hear EQ even at 500mg/ml is smooth as silk.

I was thinking of:
600 Test
600 Deca
600 EQ

try that and adjust as needed.

then last 8 weeks maybe pull Deca and add:

Trent 300
Mast 300

 

[BigDadd7]

Damn Crit in the 40's on 550EQ is pretty good.

Im stocking up on EQ for my next run, cant wait to give it a try.

Primo is expensive and the 200mg/ml im running requires some mixing with other compounds and heat to pin with minimal PIP.

I hear EQ even at 500mg/ml is smooth as silk.

I was thinking of:
600 Test
600 Deca
600 EQ

try that and adjust as needed.

then last 8 weeks maybe pull Deca and add:

Trent 300
Mast 300

Might be a good cycle, might be a disaster. Please don't say this will be your third cycle, or that you're under 200 lbs. That' a cycle for a big boy with years under his belt.

 

[RockyP]

Might be a good cycle, might be a disaster. Please don't say this will be your third cycle, or that you're under 200 lbs. That' a cycle for a big boy with years under his belt.

I concur. sounds like a lot of fun but 1800 mg is quite a bit.

 

[eryximachus]

1 to 1 test to eq crushes my E2 unlike any other non AI compound (more than primo ever has more than mast ever has)

This e2 crashing stuff is starting to get really out of control here.

 

[dinfar1337]

I am an e2 super converter, even on lower test. I'm considering adding some eq to minimize AI usage. I understand there will be e1, but i want to lower this e2.

its funny how aromatizing testosterone works.

ive recently went from ed injections with test e to e7d with test c. before i ran test e ed at 500-600 and tiltrated the dosage up to 750mg without an ai never ran into issues until the 750mg buttfucked me.

now im running 175mg test c e7d and my estrogen came back as 116pg/pmol higher than 84pg/pmol on 500 testosterone e. and i did e3.5d on test e at 140-150mg test and that left me with decent 40 ish pg/pmol estrogen.

idk if you've tried ed injections or its just this bad for you on normal trt on ed injections but yeah try playing with injection frequencies before labeling yourself a super converter.

i might just be a odd case and not respond so well to hormones fluctacting while being super sensitive i thrive with lower aromatizing through more stable test levels. i would have to switch back to test e since im running out of injection spots with a little lump the test c leaves if i decided to go back to ed injections. so i've ultimately decided to start trt+ with 300mg test and 200mg eq.

my whole point was just letting scar tissue heal but now ive ran into estrogen problems.

 

[eryximachus]

e 750mg buttfucked me.

I love butt sex

 

[Mastedon]

its funny how aromatizing testosterone works.

idk if you've tried ed injections or its just this bad for you on normal trt on ed injections but yeah try playing with injection frequencies before labeling yourself a super converter.

my whole point was just letting scar tissue heal but now ive ran into estrogen problems.

I inject 6 days a week (rotating delts and glutes) and I still convert really easily. It'll be interesting to see how this 1:2 ratio does for me. I've landed on 300 test 600 eq so we'll see.

Anyone know how many weeks I should wait to do labs with eq?
I was planning on 6 but should I do 8 weeks?

 

[dinfar1337]

I was planning on 6 but should I do 8 weeks?

eq levels should be settled by around 8 taking just the shortest half life of 14*3 which is 6 weeks vs longest half life 25*3 which is 10.7 weeks.

you're probably chilling doing somewhere around week 8. but if you can wait out the full 10 weeks its best

 

[BigDadd7]

its funny how aromatizing testosterone works.

ive recently went from ed injections with test e to e7d with test c. before i ran test e ed at 500-600 and tiltrated the dosage up to 750mg without an ai never ran into issues until the 750mg buttfucked me.

now im running 175mg test c e7d and my estrogen came back as 116pg/pmol higher than 84pg/pmol on 500 testosterone e. and i did e3.5d on test e at 140-150mg test and that left me with decent 40 ish pg/pmol estrogen.

idk if you've tried ed injections or its just this bad for you on normal trt on ed injections but yeah try playing with injection frequencies before labeling yourself a super converter.

i might just be a odd case and not respond so well to hormones fluctacting while being super sensitive i thrive with lower aromatizing through more stable test levels. i would have to switch back to test e since im running out of injection spots with a little lump the test c leaves if i decided to go back to ed injections. so i've ultimately decided to start trt+ with 300mg test and 200mg eq.

my whole point was just letting scar tissue heal but now ive ran into estrogen problems.

I did end up switching to twice a week. We'll see how this plays out. I'll be pulling e2, again, in a few weeks.

 

[SnowyMiami]

Ok I'm 3 weeks in and I decided to not to go up to 350 test as I originally proposed. I was running 300 test in August and I already had to take aromasin. I also decided to increase the EQ to see if I can drop the aromasin.

So I've done three weeks of 300 test and 540 EQ (weird EQ number I know its just how my 6 days a week pin schedule works for me). If I have to drop the test to 250 to control estrogen I'll do that but hopefully the 540 EQ handles that.

Not adding in any NPP or Mast at this point because I want the labs to show results of just the impact of EQ since I've never ran it before.
Not adding in anything else has been difficult because being three weeks in I'm not really feeling any different with the EQ and have been super tempted from the start to add tbol or anavar for the first 4-8 weeks but I'm holding strong lol.

If you can't raise your test above TRT without E2 going crazy its because you are fat. You should address that before dumping in more compounds but you probably wont.

 

[RockyP]

If you can't raise your test above TRT without E2 going crazy its because you are fat. You should address that before dumping in more compounds but you probably wont.

This is definitely one reason.

Another might be something else you are taking with your test, such as HCG and / or DHEA. My HRT doc had me on 100 mg DHEA and 300 mg test and my E2 was 100. When I dropped the DHEA i was in the normal range. HCG can similarly increase E2.

 

[Damaged1]

its funny how aromatizing testosterone works.

ive recently went from ed injections with test e to e7d with test c. before i ran test e ed at 500-600 and tiltrated the dosage up to 750mg without an ai never ran into issues until the 750mg buttfucked me.

now im running 175mg test c e7d and my estrogen came back as 116pg/pmol higher than 84pg/pmol on 500 testosterone e. and i did e3.5d on test e at 140-150mg test and that left me with decent 40 ish pg/pmol estrogen.

idk if you've tried ed injections or its just this bad for you on normal trt on ed injections but yeah try playing with injection frequencies before labeling yourself a super converter.

i might just be a odd case and not respond so well to hormones fluctacting while being super sensitive i thrive with lower aromatizing through more stable test levels. i would have to switch back to test e since im running out of injection spots with a little lump the test c leaves if i decided to go back to ed injections. so i've ultimately decided to start trt+ with 300mg test and 200mg eq.

my whole point was just letting scar tissue heal but now ive ran into estrogen problems.

Seems like all my side effects happen when going up or down on dose, once stabilized things seems much smoother.

 

[dinfar1337]

Seems like all my side effects happen when going up or down on dose, once stabilized things seems much smoother.

yeah, ive been on this new trt dose since roughly late may? and i didnt taper down properly just went from 1g test 600 primo 400mg tren to trt, so gotta account for 21 days waiting time out of my system.

and the test was taken 1 week ago