Estrogen and aggression

HeadDoc

Psychologist
University of Wisconsin-Madisonws
Gender hormones may lend to social disorder therapies
August 24, 2005
Gender politics aside, every biologist knows that men and women truly are different.
Social disorders such as autism constitute one area where those differences come to the fore: around 80 percent of all autism cases, for example, occur in men. Social play behaviors also differ greatly between the sexesjust about everyone agrees that young boys play "rougher" than girls.
Early in human development, critical brain proteins known as steroid receptors lay most of the groundwork for ensuing sexual destinies. The receptors bind to hormones such as testosterone and estrogen and set in motion gender blueprints for a lifetime.
To understand why autistic children have trouble engaging in social interactions, researchers have long observed "rough-and-tumble" playthe propensity to bite, wrestle or pouncein juvenile rats. Scientists were convinced that testosterone solely dictated the onset of such behavior.
But researchers at UW-Madison have now made the surprising finding that estrogen-and even dopamine, a neurotransmitter-also play critical roles. The work, which appeared online Aug. 16 in the journal Endocrinology, may one day help diagnose new autism cases and potentially pave the way for new hormone-based therapeutic approaches that counteract the social difficulties of autism, says senior author Anthony Auger, an assistant professor of psychology.
"Our work points out an overlooked mechanism that controls social play behavior," says Auger. "Now if we work to understand how these biological mechanisms control social behavior, we can discern which points of the various pathways are involved in the disruption of social interactions."
Male rats are likely to engage in rough-and-tumble play almost 13 times as frequently as females, says Auger. But when the UW-Madison team treated newborn females with estrogen, they bit, boxed, pinned and pounced as frequently as the males after reaching juvenile age. The estrogen effectively "masculinized" the females, Auger says.
To the scientists' surprise, a similar result took place when they treated the females with a mimic of the neurotransmitter dopamine, a chemical messenger in the brain that regulates emotions and feelings of pleasure.
The UW-Madison study results imply that many factors, beyond steroid receptors and sex hormones, may be interrupted during the onset of social disorders, Auger says. Consequently, he hopes to focus on the potential role of another group of proteins - known as growth factors - in social play behaviors.
Other scientists who participated in the study include UW-Madison doctoral student and lead author Kristin Olesen, zoologist Catherine Auger and research specialist ******* Jessen.
 
To be perfectly honest, I see no significance ot this study with respect to male behavior.
 
wait till the first openly autistic individual shows up in your office! Actually, it'll probably be an Asberger syndrome case, adolescent, and escorted by his parents who are concerned that he doesn't have a beard and shows no sign of interest in girls (or have that many friends either). Your first impression is that he's VULCAN--yet doesn't have pointy ears! Now given the proximity of my office to major high tech manufacturers with tons of engineers, I probably seen more Asberger cases than most.
 
LOL.

I have seen quite a few tough Psych cases. I am left scratching my head over them, as they truly need treatment by someone with expertise in these areas. So I just try to get their hormones tuned up (the 'ol chicken and the egg conundrum), and get them to someone competent for the rest.

Still, I see no correlation whatsoever between studies performed on females-be they humans, rats, or even engineers--with males, where hormonal issues are concerned. This is a significant error in thinking which is seen throughout the medical (who should know better) and lay (Board) communities.

Please explain to me how this study, conducted on female rats, extrapolates to human males.
 
I guess the key for me is the phrase about "masculinizing" female rats by adding estrogen. This is not what I would have predicted about enhancing estrogen levels in females. I wish Dr. Pam Smith had a forum. I could ask her if excess estrogen in females aromatizes.
 
I had been looking at the effects of testosterone/estrogen imbalance in adhd. Asbergers (high funcioning autism) and autism (in my experience) appears with the same ramifications, whereas in asbergers the client appears to be "hidden" away in the sexual behaviour.

There are some very interesting studies just completed here in Australia where females were exposed to DES (diethylstilbestrol) as prepubertal and adolescent girls to inhibit growth. These "tall girls" (depending on the timing of exposure to estrogen) exhibit masculine effects and sexual dysphoria. I should find it and upload it for interesting reading

Crypto
 
Okay, what happens if you give estrogen to men? Is it masculinizing? I mean, what is the point with respecdt to males? Or are you only addressing a female topic here?

Estrogen IS aromatized already. That is its production.
 
SWALE said:
Okay, what happens if you give estrogen to men? Is it masculinizing? I mean, what is the point with respecdt to males? Or are you only addressing a female topic here?

Estrogen IS aromatized already. That is its production.


Of course, you make good points. I do get caught up in exploring the anomilies--and the comparison to autism struck me as important. Further, I understand that it would be more relevant to males if the researchers found the same effect of giving estrogen to male adolescent rats. In this case, the males might become briefly more aggressive and then settle into a bunch of males given to depression, anxiety, possibly panic attacks, dressing like metrosexuals and listening to Village People far too often.
 
I know of males as children (male e.g AIS and female) administered estrogen during puberty and also males whos mothers took DES in eutro,(to develop bigger babies, prior to 1975) when it ceased.
I have 2 very good friends, both adults, one taking estrogen and the other taking testosterone at the moment, which is having very different effects on both of them as they had both been administered estrogen as 13 year olds.
Medicine stuffed up here somewhere along the way.
 
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