EU domestic source talk

[Filippo17]

You can buy those directly from the sellers here so I don't see why you need to buy from them

What is mean U CAN BUY DIRECTLY FROM SELLERS? I bought on catcafe, but if i found a more economic way i switch: can u give me more info?

 

[Ferenor]

What is mean U CAN BUY DIRECTLY FROM SELLERS? I bought on catcafe, but if i found a more economic way i switch: can u give me more info?

You can buy Mactropin from the Mactropin seller, Deus from the Deus seller, etc.

Catcafé has some deus too

 

[Filippo17]

You can buy Mactropin from the Mactropin seller, Deus from the Deus seller, etc.

Catcafé has some deus too

So deus and macro has their own sites?

 

[scientifik]

So deus and macro has their own sites?

Brother u little dumbass, how old are you?

 

[TrenBolognaSandwich]

So deus and macro has their own sites?

No they don't, you need write them a letter if you want to order their products

 

[Banana Joe]

It seems that recently have been some problems with undefiled vials, but I haven't completely caught up.

Thank you for the reply. This doesn't look too promising so far. :-/

 

[MetalAsh]

Could someone please summarise what the current consensus on Hilma is?

They had the bacterial contamination, had delays of many months last year (with some lost packages that were never reimbursed?!) and seem to underfill and underdose their current batches from what I was able to gather by going over the last pages of their thread.

Is that really the case?

Are there any other reliable and high quality labs that offer competitive prices if you buy bulk?

Thanks in advance to those who have overview of the current market situation.

Not entirely sure, from their thread it's filled with people complaining that their gear now is underdosed. Also I don't really like them not having any verification system in place and like 30+ reseller websites (many of them only selling Hilma, idk what the point is).

They claim the bacterial contamination was nothing to worry about and that they took care of it but I highly doubt that. A lot of their products are cheap esp on the reseller sites they list but I think they're that cheap for a reason.

 

[The last wolf88]

Afirman que la contaminación bacteriana no era nada de qué preocuparse y que se ocuparon de ella

at least they don't charge for bacterial contamination, it's a more anabolic additive lol

 

[TrenBolognaSandwich]

A lot of their products are cheap esp on the reseller sites

If you spend over 1000+ they are half the price directly from hilma too if you look at the bulk price lists and pretty sure the resellers get them even cheaper if they buy 100s vials at once.

 

[SubAlitt]

Not entirely sure, from their thread it's filled with people complaining that their gear now is underdosed. Also I don't really like them not having any verification system in place and like 30+ reseller websites (many of them only selling Hilma, idk what the point is).

They claim the bacterial contamination was nothing to worry about and that they took care of it but I highly doubt that. A lot of their products are cheap esp on the reseller sites they list but I think they're that cheap for a reason.

My experience is that hilna is top quality, and fast.

 

[Trenmike]

I used Hilma in the past and I had good results. Is difficult to say when you using different AAS which one could be under dosed or the vial is filled with another compound. Hilma vials are not filled with 10ml of oil, this is for sure. I am looking for some products from balkan or Sp. Prices seems to be very high, as 80€ for 1 vial of tren...
Anyway here in meso there are many good suppliers with good quality products

 

[hypnocin]

I read that buying raws is generally more dangerous than getting finished products. Is it true or just dealers being desperate?

 

[ItsDaBoii]

I read that buying raws is generally more dangerous than getting finished products. Is it true or just dealers being desperate?

How is it more dangerous?

 

[Birmingham55]

Are you guys getting troubles with packages coming from UK? Compared to the situation pre-1st of July

 

[hypnocin]

How is it more dangerous?

Probably you cant dismiss powder as dog medicine

 

[ItsDaBoii]

Probably you cant dismiss powder as dog medicine

But you can dismiss it as creatine lol

 

[Supremo44]

But you can dismiss it as creatine lol

Or cocaine

 

[effiffoff]

I read that buying raws is generally more dangerous than getting finished products. Is it true or just dealers being desperate?

Way bigger profit margin on finished products while the risk is kinda the same (assuming most of the raw customers are somewhat small buyers, up to 100-200g of raws).
Also can be more dangerous because of lacking proper cooking procedure, sterility, shitty oils etc. But if your IQ is 100+ you can easily homebrew safely IMO.

 

[dennia]

You don't need a IQ +100 to brew....
Just need to copy what have you seen on a video. Step by step and it's ok. A monkey can do that
If you pass the oil thru a syringe filter in a vial that you bought already sterilized you can't do something wrong

 

[Necessary Evil]

You don't need a IQ +100 to brew....
Just need to copy what have you seen on a video. Step by step and it's ok. A monkey can do that
If you pass the oil thru a syringe filter in a vial that you bought already sterilized you can't do something wrong

How much does an not-over-the-top gear for brewing cost? Thinking of getting into the brewing game once I fix my finances.