Curious what you think about pheraplex and other preban otc steroids? Is there a reason why they were never considered for use in the medical field? Are there any issues with the structures that would make them not worth using?
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Type-IIx
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Hepatotoxicity of the potent designer steroids was the primary rationale against their clinical use, and insufficient potency of the true prohoromones (diones, diols, 4- / 5- prodrugs, etc.) were the primary rationale against their clinical use.
As they say, the exception proves the rule, and there is one. DMZ (potently hepatotoxic) was a rebranded designer steroid sold under various labels during the Designer Steroid Era of the mid-2000s that has been used clinically as Dostalon and Roxilon.
Besides that, the major reason that few other examples exist of the designer steroids having been used clinically relates mostly to their being late to market after decades of perfectly acceptable use of legitimate pharmaceutical products that made it through development and were and still are used (these include the commonly available AAS in use today).
That makes a lot of sense thanks for that.
narta
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Isn't DMZ 2 methasterone aka superdol units attached together and it's rapidly broken down to methasterone and its metabolites?
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Type-IIx
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That's right, its metabolic products are virtually identical to Superdrol.
Rido
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I will outdo all of you pussies with my mediocre dick size
narta
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So I was cleaning the "put that here and I 'll short it out later" cupboard and look what I found forgotten by time
Avarice911
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Cupboard which hasn’t been opened since 2010 lmao
narta
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Yeah there were shoved in the back
Type-IIx
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Is this all correct?
Competitive Edge M-Drol: methasterone (Superdrol)
Competitive Edge P-Plex: desoxymethyltestosterone; 17α-methyl-5α-androst-2-en-17β-ol; methylandrostenol (Madol; Phera-Plex)
iForce Nutrition Protodrol: methylandrostanol; 17α-methyl-5α-androstan-3-one (17α-DHT)
narta
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Yeap.
I ve gotten them before the ban when there were firesales to get rid of them. Something like $10-$15/bottle
Type-IIx
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Those three are drugs that I'd actually use. I wouldn't run them without bread & butter injectibles, but each one of these designer steroids has a place in a well-designed cycle. They're all "dry" (nonaromatizable) compounds. The P-Plex is a 2-ene (Δ²-androstene) which are highly potent (no 3-keto; 3-deoxy). Both the Protodrol (relatively weak, view as similar to Proviron) & M-Drol (highly potent, view as similar to Ultradrol or methylstenbolone) are 5α-androstan-3-ones like most 17AA orals, but both are on opposite ends of the potency spectrum of these nonaromatizable AAS.
effswithtren
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Yeah some of those are pretty viable. I don’t like how people lump everything sold during the prohormone craze as trash. A lot of them were trash but some of them were only sold because they weren’t on the banned list, and were actually pretty potent. Superdrol is a great example of that. I guess those others are too, I just don’t have much experience with them.
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airfield17
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Lucky bastard
I'm going to run a pplex cycle next month with test 250mg/wk.
I'm curious how it'll do now 15 years later from last time. I think 40-50mg Ed was a good dose for me. I plan on running it 40/50/50/60, wells see.
I'm curious how it'll do now 15 years later from last time. I think 40-50mg Ed was a good dose for me. I plan on running it 40/50/50/60, wells see.
lukiss96
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As far as those exotics or prohormones go, I have to say Superdrol was fucking crazy. I only used it twice and boy the size and look it gives is on another level, works as fast as Dianabol, but wow makes you look insane.
Sides are one of the worst perhaps, strooong lethargy due to liver stress, aggressiviness, random pumps just walking with a girl I felt exhausted lol. Sugar cravings or feel weak and light headed if you don't consume some. Blood pressure shot up to 160/80. Acne and crazy sex drive, though I can't complain about sex drive anyway.
P.S. it is some bad toxic shit, I wouldn't use it now and I don't need to do crazy experiments like in the past, I was just sayin' how fun it was and now looking back it's interesting to remember such moments.
Sides are one of the worst perhaps, strooong lethargy due to liver stress, aggressiviness, random pumps just walking with a girl I felt exhausted lol. Sugar cravings or feel weak and light headed if you don't consume some. Blood pressure shot up to 160/80. Acne and crazy sex drive, though I can't complain about sex drive anyway.
P.S. it is some bad toxic shit, I wouldn't use it now and I don't need to do crazy experiments like in the past, I was just sayin' how fun it was and now looking back it's interesting to remember such moments.
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redmanzzz
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On this board your the novice. You need to listen to the members when they tell you to eat more. Anybody on as much peds as you were advertising you should realistically gain that in a month or two not a year. So it's either your not eating enough or j your not lifting hard enough. It's gotta be one or the other
Looking4gainzz
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I didn’t advertise any unreasonable dosages at a. My protocols back then were basic bitch cycles. I never mentioned diet because that’s not what this thread is about. I eat plenty brother that’s why I’m twenty five pounds heavier at a slightly higher body fat (10-12% currently). I never told people what to take. I started a thread about peoples experiences with compounds besides anadrol and dbol even though those are my favorite two orals period. That’s it. I’ll be on the lookout for your diet and nutrition thread you’ll for sure be posting any day now I’m sure.
Looking4gainzz
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Hell yea my man! Those are the few bottles I actually remember buying more than one of pre ban.
Looking4gainzz
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Also you know there are way more reasons and applications of PEDS than purely mass actual and bodybuilding purposes right? You know that there is an entire group of athletes who take dry DHT based compounds almost exclusively in order to stay within a weight bracket but still reap the benefits of increased nitrogen retention and or added aggression or performance in the short term. Jesus all you meat heads actually believe that Jon Jones never took steroids CUZ HE STILl 205 tho!!!! You sound ignorant and this is not purely a bodybuilding forum and many other people come to learn about these drugs and there effects and applications. Many of these more exotic compounds were actually created literally for these exact reasons AKA THG (The Clear). Just enjoy the thread or don’t read it my man, that simple
