Favorite PCT Ancillaries

[flipup7]

In the process of coming off (hopefully for the last time) for fertility reasons and was wondering if anyone has any favorite PCT ancillaries that they've used to make things as smooth as possible. Aside from the usual SERMs and HCG does anyone have any go to compounds or protocols they run alongside their PCT?

My core PCT plan:

- Last 4 weeks switched from Test C to P.
- Ramped up HCG from 250iu 3x per week on cycle to 750iu 3x per week two weeks after stopping Test P.
- Running 12.5mg pharma Enclo ED

I've felt mostly fine overall, getting some expected strength and size loss, a little brain fog, slightly "off" mood but totally manageable. Waiting on post-cycle bloods at the moment.


Ancillaries I'm trying:

- Glutathione: 200mg 3x per week. Did this for 2 weeks and there's a noticeable effect and overall anti-inflammatory feeling. Skin looked and felt healthier the day after pinning. Not a game changer but a definitely an overall wellness benefit.

- NAD+: 100mg 3x per week. Just did one week of this so far and I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. I think there's an energy level improvement but it's hard to say for sure. Will probably run this for at least another week or two.

- Semax: Haven't added yet but would like to see if this can mitigate the slight brain fog I've got going on.

 

[Ghoul]

Modafinil/Armodafinil

Semax doesn't do shit for cognition.

 

[flipup7]

Yeah modafinil is a good call. I've had a little trouble sleeping with that before and am prioritizing good sleep for better recovery right now but if the brain fog gets worse at any point maybe I'll throw that in.

I've tried semax in the past and I felt a little clearer headed on it but I understand some people experience that compound differently.

 

[Ghoul]

Yeah modafinil is a good call. I've had a little trouble sleeping with that before and am prioritizing good sleep for better recovery right now but if the brain fog gets worse at any point maybe I'll throw that in.

I've tried semax in the past and I felt a little clearer headed on it but I understand some people experience that compound differently.

Take it as early as possible. A lot of people just keep it bedside, taking it before hitting the snooze button and even go back to sleep. Also, duration is dose dependent so keep that in mind. Finally, Moda wears off much faster than Armo, so consider using that instead of Armo until you know it's not affecting your sleep

 

[BP_6]

Take it as early as possible. A lot of people just keep it bedside, taking it before hitting the snooze button and even go back to sleep. Also, duration is dose dependent so keep that in mind. Finally, Moda wears off much faster than Armo, so consider using that instead of Armo until you know it's not affecting your sleep

Per you advice I got some Armo from "the PCT man" the mid-range one you said was a good bang for the buck and love it so far. Using the 150mg tabs and they are working great! What is the purpose of the 250mg ones as the 150's seem plenty strong. Do you get an even stronger focus effect or is it more just to make it last longer, or do some just like/need a very high dose? I take mine like at 5am before the gym so sleep hasn't been an issue yet.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Ghoul]

Per you advice I got some Armo from "the PCT man" the mid-range one you said was a good bang for the buck and love it so far. Using the 150mg tabs and they are working great! What is the purpose of the 250mg ones as the 150's seem plenty strong. Do you get an even stronger focus effect or is it more just to make it last longer, or do some just like/need a very high dose? I take mine like at 5am before the gym so sleep hasn't been an issue yet.

Thanks for your help.

Glad to hear it's working out!

Make sure to keep your vitamin A up. Moda/Armoda stimulates neurogenesis, the creation of new neurons, but that process is reliant on sufficient Vitamin A levels.

Believe it or not, Armodafinil 250mg is a legitimate prescription dose in the US. I can only assume it's for severe narcolepsy. They split well and 1/2 is essentially like a 150mg, but like you suggest, 250mg is wassy too much for me.

If they're a better deal than 150mg it might make sense, but they're usually more than twice the price of 150's so not worth it.

So as of this posting HAB's Modawake (their less well known moda vs their popular Modvigil), and Artvigil 150 are the best values, all being very good quality. Artvigil 50's are great too, provided they're around 1/3rd the price of the 150's.

 

[flipup7]

That's great to hear how effective the modafinil is.

I worked in some Semax to my PCT and I have to say it's been a solid addition. It has completely removed the minor brain fog I had. It took a few days of dosing at 300mcg to really get going but I felt some effects the first day.

Ran the NAD+ a couple more times up to 100mg 3x per week and can't say I felt anything off of it for sure.

 

[sweetcynic237]

Glad to hear it's working out!

Make sure to keep your vitamin A up. Moda/Armoda stimulates neurogenesis, the creation of new neurons, but that process is reliant on sufficient Vitamin A levels.

Believe it or not, Armodafinil 250mg is a legitimate prescription dose in the US. I can only assume it's for severe narcolepsy. They split well and 1/2 is essentially like a 150mg, but like you suggest, 250mg is wassy too much for me.

If they're a better deal than 150mg it might make sense, but they're usually more than twice the price of 150's so not worth it.

So as of this posting HAB's Modawake (their less well known moda vs their popular Modvigil), and Artvigil 150 are the best values, all being very good quality. Artvigil 50's are great too, provided they're around 1/3rd the price of the 150's.

I know you get a lot of negative feedback, but when I sat down to eat and do some reading this evening I went and searched on Meso and looked up your posts so I could learn something valuable, like the above. Ive been looking for something just like this. It's appreciated.

 

[Ghoul]

I know you get a lot of negative feedback, but when I sat down to eat and do some reading this evening I went and searched on Meso and looked up your posts so I could learn something valuable, like the above. Ive been looking for something just like this. It's appreciated.

Appreciate it! The positive interactions far outnumber the small number of tren raging critics, lol.

 

[Zeus088]

I’ll second that notion of getting excellent advice from @Ghoul I had a question about the Modafinil (Modvigil 200) I’ve been on it two days and it’s made a noticeable difference in my chronic fatigue. I don’t need caffeine constantly, but I have found it to wear off faster like you said in the above post. I ordered some ModAwake and ModAlert to see the difference. Is the Artvigil worth checking out? Also, with the Modvigil I take it upon waking, if you feel it wearing off, would you take an additional half dose? Or do you want to avoid doing that later in the day?

 

[Ghoul]

I’ll second that notion of getting excellent advice from @Ghoul I had a question about the Modafinil (Modvigil 200) I’ve been on it two days and it’s made a noticeable difference in my chronic fatigue. I don’t need caffeine constantly, but I have found it to wear off faster like you said in the above post. I ordered some ModAwake and ModAlert to see the difference. Is the Artvigil worth checking out? Also, with the Modvigil I take it upon waking, if you feel it wearing off, would you take an additional half dose? Or do you want to avoid doing that later in the day?

In my experience the best results come from taking it once, as early in the day as possible, using dose to modulate duration.

So for instance, I'll take 200mg Moda as a "base". If I get up at 4:30-6am, I'll add 150 Armodafinil. That will keep me going until 10-11pm. If it's 6-7am 100mg Armodafinil. 7-8am 50mg. Any later just the Modafinil.

This is highly personalized and you'll have to experiment. You could take 300 moda as that may boost duration enough.

Artvigil is good quality Armodafinil, and the 50mg tabs make the calibrating the proper dose/duration easy to manage. It's priced well at PCT 24. Artvigil 150 is the best Armodafinil value, and easily split into 75mg halves.