First cycle advice

10iu gh isn’t even that much. Thats like 2-3x my test and 2-3x my gh from natural. I don’t wanna have to do a bunch of bs with my estrogen and everything to manage a whole cycle.
How old are you

What was your natty igf level on bloodwork

What are you expecting high dose hgh to do for you?
 
Almost an adult lol. nvr looked at bloodwork before. Doctors always say everything’s good tho. Will once I hop on. I wanna better frame

why would you think you need to use test and hgh at a young age without having any bloodwork to show a deficiency?

Why are you unable to build muscle now?

What are you doing wrong?

Never start drugs without preliminary bloodwork

Taking hgh and test right now would be an absolute moron decision

Stop being lazy. Go learn about training and nutrition.

You can't inject hard work and discipline.



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10-15iu of GH with only 200 test? That's wild! You're gonna be broke and disappointed. Seriously, get some bloodwork done before you dive into that mess. You'll thank me later.
 
It's new

And somehow every day they get dumber than the last guy

I see... probably has to do with soap box influencers and the looksmaxxers movement. Crypto making drugs trivially easy to get isnt helping either...

I checked one of those looksmaxxers forums recently (I have kids so I wanted to know) and at first I thought it was a joke forum... it wasnt. They are serious. Cant believe these imbeciles. Everything from bone lengthening surgery and extreme facial treatment that turn you into a pasty emotionless doll looking thing out of a horror flick to rating every body part on some made up scale based on the idea that everyone else would think the same. It was an eye opening level of dumbassry.
 
Did Meso always have kids prancing around like this or is this a new trend?

To the kid... you have no idea what you are doing. Come back when you are mid 20s.
its new, and it will only get worse and more frequent. I'm on the younger side myself but don't come here asking retarded questions when everything I would ask could easily be answered by doing a little bit of research and not being annoying asking stupid questions
 
I see... probably has to do with soap box influencers and the looksmaxxers movement. Crypto making drugs trivially easy to get isnt helping either...

I checked one of those looksmaxxers forums recently (I have kids so I wanted to know) and at first I thought it was a joke forum... it wasnt. They are serious. Cant believe these imbeciles. Everything from bone lengthening surgery and extreme facial treatment that turn you into a pasty emotionless doll looking thing out of a horror flick to rating every body part on some made up scale based on the idea that everyone else would think the same. It was an eye opening level of dumbassry and beta behavior.
Body dysmorphia has diversified.

In some ways, I can relate, and think that I shouldn't think poorly of someone just because they express their disorder in a different way than I express mine

But then I realize how absolutely moronic they are, and with no work ethic or effort to try and learn better for themselves

Being a lazy weak minded feeble twerp without a single individual thought for yourself is the ugliest look you can wear.
 
Body dysmorphia has diversified.

In some ways, I can relate, and think that I shouldn't think poorly of someone just because they express their disorder in a different way than I express mine

But then I realize how absolutely moronic they are, and with no work ethic or effort to try and learn better for themselves

Being a lazy weak minded feeble twerp without a single individual thought for yourself is the ugliest look you can wear.
What really got me was the number of people on those forums... holy shit. They had more activity there than Meso. Granted Meso isnt huge but I was floored by the activity on there. Everyone just blowing smoke up each others ass and like you surmised, lots of low self esteem and clearly too little actual research. Some of them did seem to try to reason but you can tell the reasoning was based on some groundless nonsense and sounded more like something ChatGPT might say to affirm the user.

If anyone here has kids, you need to warn them about this nonsense.
 
that's a recipe for disaster. GH without the right test base is like putting premium gas in a lawnmower. Complete waste, and you'll probably just end up with more problems than you started with. Bloodwork first, always!
 
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