first cycle of dnp

[Stretch]

YES definitely....I mean everything that I know about DNP (not much) says that you're overdosing at 300mg your taking almost 5mg for every kilogram of bodyweight...that's a lot...specially considering you're a woman....

DNP causes you to RADIATE heat...especially from your head....so I believe that your husband would def. have noticed something by now...AND your temperature is completely normal?!?!?!...

that shit's bunk....it's gotta be....

here's something every NOOB should do as soon as they get what they THINK is a legit source...go to google...and search for: "name of supplier" + scam.....

Don't only use google....use multiple search engines to do this...it's better to research than to rush into a situation that you're gonna kick yourself for later....I had to find this out the hard way and believe me it sucks....a-stealth bastards

 

[msbjohnston]

YES definitely....I mean everything that I know about DNP (not much) says that you're overdosing at 300mg your taking almost 5mg for every kilogram of bodyweight...that's a lot...specially considering you're a woman....

DNP causes you to RADIATE heat...especially from your head....so I believe that your husband would def. have noticed something by now...AND your temperature is completely normal?!?!?!...

that shit's bunk....it's gotta be....

here's something every NOOB should do as soon as they get what they THINK is a legit source...go to google...and search for: "name of supplier" + scam.....

Don't only use google....use multiple search engines to do this...it's better to research than to rush into a situation that you're gonna kick yourself for later....I had to find this out the hard way and believe me it sucks....a-stealth bastards

the funny thing is we did that same search and we only found one complain but it was a stupid one about taking a while to receive......i know its fake now because I just ate a bowl of special K and NOTHING!!!

 

[Conciliator]

You say that you've researched quite a bit.

Well then let me ask you: Why are you ignoring so much of the knowledge, advice, and guidelines that have been laid out by those who are more experienced?

The dosage guidelines for dnp are listed at a maximum of 3mg per kilogram of bodyweight,(for beginners) your bodyweight of 64.4 kg. gives you a maximum dosage of 192mg/day, and most dnp users start with a lower dosage and work up to a higher dosage after 3-4 days. So by my estimation you should have started out with a dosage of 100-150mg. To be sure that you don't have an allergy.

There is so much variation in individual sensitivity to DNP that dosing recommendations based on bodyweight are almost worthless. For the OP, 200mg/day could be a very low dose or it could be an excessive dose, depending on her sensitivity to it. Unless she's someone who's particularly sensitive to DNP, it's unlikely to be excessive. And if it is excessive, she'll know when her body temperature starts going over 99.1, at which point she could decrease the dose.

Furthermore, there are substances listed that are INTEGRAL supplements when on a dnp cycle, and you say that you're not taking any supplements.

Yeah, listed by who? Some random guy who wrote an article. There are no integral supplements. In the 1930's hundreds of thousands of people took DNP with no supplements and they did just fine. The laundry list of supplements that some say you "must" take while on DNP is a joke. She doesn't "need" to be taking anything along with the DNP.

-Conciliator

 

[Conciliator]

to answer your questions:


I know what I need to take:
1200-1500mg magnesium divided in 2-3 doses
2000-3000mg vit c
1200 IU vit e
200 mcg selenium
1000-2000 calcium (not with mag)
50mg zinc
iron tablet

If i am missing anything or am taking too much of anything let me know!

You don't need to take any of that.

 

[Conciliator]

Don't pay any attention to your weight....or your measurements just yet,

IF you're DNP is real then, you would have too much water retention at this point in the cycle to have a noticeable weight change or mesurement change...

The severity of water retention varies from person to person, so you can't say for certain that if her DNP were real that she would necessarily be retaining water. I personally retain very little water on DNP. Most people seem to retain a quite a bit. I agree that she shouldn't worry about her weight while on DNP, since water retention often does throw everything off and make the scale meaningless until after the cycle is over.

 

[Conciliator]

Don't you think that at 300mgs and being that I weigh 142lbs that I would feel something by now??

If that's truly how much DNP you're taking, then yes, you'd probably feel something by now. But that's assuming you have an average tolerance to DNP. Tolerance varies greatly, so it's very possible you need higher doses for the same effect that the average person gets at lower doses. If you're someone who's relatively tolerant to DNP, you may very well require 500mg/day for even mild side effects and weight loss. I know guys who take 1000mg/day for mild/moderate effects. That's quite uncommon, but it happens. On the flip side, I know some big guys who are extremely sensitive to DNP, for whom 200mg/day is a moderate/high dose. You'll have to discover your personal tolerance by slowly increasing your dose every 3-4 days. At some point, either your body temperature will exceed 99.1 or the side effects (e.g. heat, lethargy, breathlessness) will seem excessive. At that point, drop back down to the previous dosage, which is a moderate/high dose for you as an individual.

 

[Conciliator]

YES definitely....I mean everything that I know about DNP (not much) says that you're overdosing at 300mg your taking almost 5mg for every kilogram of bodyweight...that's a lot...specially considering you're a woman....

No, that need not mean she's overdosing. Not at all.

DNP causes you to RADIATE heat...especially from your head....so I believe that your husband would def. have noticed something by now...AND your temperature is completely normal?!?!?!...

that shit's bunk....it's gotta be....

With proper doses of DNP, your temperature will always be normal. As you explain, the body radiates the extra heat being produced, keeping body temperature normal. When the heat being produced is excessive (from an excessive dose), it outstrips the body's ability to radiate that heat, increasing body temperature. At this point, you're flirting with overdose and the drug needs to be continued (or the dose promptly reduced). At low doses, DNP is know to actually reduce body temperature, as cooling seems to overcompensate for the heat being produced.

In 1937 Simkins studied the effects of DNP on 159 subjects who were kept on DNP for many months to over a year. With respect to body temperature, he explained, "The temperature, pulse rate, and respiration were carefully watched. It was found that the temperature is an excellent guide of impending toxicity. The rule was followed invariably that, when the temperature rose as high as 99.2 F., the drug was either discontinued or the dosage sharply reduced. In this way, many impending reactions were avoided. The temperature usually remained well within the normal limits."

Hope that helps,
Conciliator

 

[Stretch]

Yeah, listed by who? Some random guy who wrote an article. There are no integral supplements. In the 1930's hundreds of thousands of people took DNP with no supplements and they did just fine. The laundry list of supplements that some say you "must" take while on DNP is a joke. She doesn't "need" to be taking anything along with the DNP.

-Conciliator

Damian Bachs', article was published on forums all over the web. Getting leaner through chemistry, I haven't read any material from ANYONE who says that you don't need to be on any supplements while on DNP...

I'd be curious to see what Dr. Scally or BR has to say...I don't propose to KNOW the truth I was merely parotting information which I've read

 

[msbjohnston]

i am still taking my "fake" stuff in the hopes that its real and way under dosed. so then maybe when I get new real gear I can take 250 mgs with no problem.

day 5
cycle update: nothing has changed......took a piss and i now weight 141.6 ....ha ha ha

 

[Conciliator]

Damian Bachs', article was published on forums all over the web. Getting leaner through chemistry, I haven't read any material from ANYONE who says that you don't need to be on any supplements while on DNP...

If something gets passed around and posted from forum to forum does it make it any more true? No.

The fact is, you simply don't need to be on a laundry list of random supplements. You'll lose fat just fine with DNP alone, as hundreds of thousands of people have done.

 

[Stretch]

I understand that you don't need it to lose the fat....the dnp is doing that for you...but I was under the impression that the supplements were there to add a measure of safety..

 

[msbjohnston]

So I'm happy to say I just popped my first DNP cap....Starting from day one all over again!

all my measurements are the same. My weight is 140.5.....

My caps are 250mgs.....a little high but not too high! looking forward to posting before and after pix. But not until I am done with my cycle and I'm still not really sure how long my cycle will be....taking into consideration that nothing happens and I am able to tak it!

Super excited I will post everything.

 

[Stretch]

So I'm happy to say I just popped my first DNP cap....Starting from day one all over again!

all my measurements are the same. My weight is 140.5.....

My caps are 250mgs.....a little high but not too high! looking forward to posting before and after pix. But not until I am done with my cycle and I'm still not really sure how long my cycle will be....taking into consideration that nothing happens and I am able to tak it!

Super excited I will post everything.

You got them in from the new supplier already?!?...that's great I'm glad it worked out for you....keep us posted on your progress

 

[msbjohnston]

Okay so I have ate and didn't expect to see any sides and I didn't however I took my temp and its 99.4. I dont feel the least bit warm or anything

I just wanted to keep everyone updated....even with the stupid small stuff[)]

 

[Colin]

Current diet and training regimen? i eat very clean drink a gallon of h2o a day. i have stopped working out during my dnp cycle.....to be on the safe side (dont want to over heat)
I have a lot of sex....does that count as a work out?

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Big mistake.

DNP can be thought of as a cardio amplifier (greatly enhanced AMPK activation) so it is foolish to stop traiing while on DNP.

One should do full body type w/o's with only compound movements,brief rest intervals.(no heavy weights)...swquats,push ups,deadlifts,Olympic lifts.This sort of aerobic weight loifting takes full advantrage of DNP,alterbate these sessions with moderate intensitgy cardio and you'll lose fat much faster than just letting DNP do all the work.

For the most part,the articles written on DNP are retarded and full of misinformation.A search under Conciliator's post history on DNP would be sooooo much better

 

[msbjohnston]

day 2:

so I took 250mgs yesterday for the first time of "real" dnp and I have to say not much happened....however I took my temp and it was 99.4. I didn't even feel hot.

Today nothing has happened of course because its only my second day....duh! I will take another 250mg cap at 3pm and I will let you know if anything happens.... I will also start doing the p90x workout tomarrow at a slow pace...no worries.

Question: what is the highest temp I can safely handle? I have read many different temps.....
What about the p90x so you think its gonna be too much even if I slow it down or should I just not do it?

 

[Stretch]

day 2:

so I took 250mgs yesterday for the first time of "real" dnp and I have to say not much happened....however I took my temp and it was 99.4. I didn't even feel hot.

Today nothing has happened of course because its only my second day....duh! I will take another 250mg cap at 3pm and I will let you know if anything happens.... I will also start doing the p90x workout tomarrow at a slow pace...no worries.

Question: what is the highest temp I can safely handle? I have read many different temps.....
What about the p90x so you think its gonna be too much even if I slow it down or should I just not do it?

Doc. or conciliator would be better to answer this one...but I will tell you that it depends on how long you are experiencing elevated temps...

Your body can withstand momentary spikes in temperature, as high as 102 degrees, but a sustained 102 and you will start to have problems. at 99.4 you have nothing to worry about...

CONGRATS on getting some real gear!

 

[msbjohnston]

I finally felt the effects! yesterday at the mall I ate chicken and fries and within 1.5 hours I was warm....sweating a little.
Then last night before I went to bed I was warm ( I ate pasta)... I kept waking up because I was hot! I would take temp and it was 98.8 so no problem!

I have to say I don't think that I'm gonna be able to eat clean while on this! I'm not going to be a pig and eat crap but I can't resist pasta! I am drinking plenty of water at a gallon a day right now....I'm gonna increase it as the days go on.

My throat feels dry and my head hurts a little......but other than that I'm good!!

Also I am a mulit vit and drinking v8 fruit. Also I'm eating fruits...grapes, pineapple, and oranges

 

[msbjohnston]

Day 4

So today I started the p90x workout and I took it really slow....had to it was hard!!

Drink a protein shake after my work out and ate some blueberry yogurt. Drink to 2 liters of H2O.

While I was working out I was sweating and started getting really hot. So I slowed it down and drank a lot of water.....So far so good on the DNP and I'm excited to see results at the end....I will be posting pictures too!!

The heat is not that bad....actually kinda nice........I'm always cold so this is what it must feel like to be normal [)]

 

[msbjohnston]

So I just read a thread about DNP and he said the by not taking any sups that he didn't lose as much fat as when he did it before with sups....I have read different stuff from different people that say it doesn't matter....Help me I'm lost!!!!

I really don't want to be putting this in my body for no reason....I know that is a chance but if I can help improve my fat loss then I want to. I need advice!