MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
FIRST CYCLE OPINION/HELP??
- Thread starter ZKJ
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JackSmooth
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@ZKJ when do you plan on starting?
ZKJ
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I was planning on starting like in a week just soon as i get bloods done.but a little lump in my nipple popped up yesterday,so going to get it checked.hoping its just a swollen lymph node.
Im going to speak to doc about steroids aswell and try get them to help,as some in uk have sound doctors who do all the bloodwork for them. Which is free instead of £100 pound a go. So save me £300 a cycle.just hoping i get a sound doctor,some dont wana help if u take steroids,even though they are legal to buy/own and use here so dont make sense.
JackSmooth
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Youll have to lets us know how that discussion goes. Hope hes willing to work with you
ZKJ
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Me too,and i will do.
ZKJ
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I went to docs today and it wasnt the best outcome.
his view was its his job to keep people healthy and advise them against stuff that harms them,and is he helping that person to die by aiding them.
But in my opinion doing boods is keeping them healthy lol and saying oh well i tried to warn ya isnt.
Although he said if i do choose to use them (which i said i was and already had em,but he was trying to suggest counciling)
He sad best he could do is an anuall blood test,which i suppose is something.
I once read if you take steroids you need to do blood tests at least once annually,is this for people that have run them for years and already know how they respond to them so just get bloods once a year to keep an eye onit
JackSmooth
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I say on to the next doc. I'd recommend more often than annual. I get blood test before every blast to make sure everything is good and if it's not I won't run anything until everything's back in line. Once you learn what doses do to your TT and e2 you're mainly checking things such as rbc, cholesterol, liver, etc.
ZKJ
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Ok do u think the other doc will put notes on system,then he will be able to see i tried someone else.i dont wana blow the 1 test as he was saying he shouldnt even be doing that.
Suppose could try different surgery.
JackSmooth
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If you get the right doc they won't care about whatever the last one thought. Majority of docs are ignorant when it comes to HRT. Now you may not find one that agrees with your decision but there are ones out there willing to monitor you.
Logan44551
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Your tripping pull bloods after two weeks and see how high your test levels are still.
ZKJ
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Ok cheers
ZKJ
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@JackSmooth @Jrock83
Can you take a look at this blood test from medichecks please and tell me if it is what i need.its called sports hormone check,and here is what it includes:
Im going to try some more doctors but just incase have to buy the tests.
Can you take a look at this blood test from medichecks please and tell me if it is what i need.its called sports hormone check,and here is what it includes:
Im going to try some more doctors but just incase have to buy the tests.
Yes. Just make sure there is not a cap, or a max reading, on the test you get for your mid cycle bloods. For example, you could have a serum testosterone of 3000ng/ml mid cycle, but if you get a test that caps out at 1500ng/ml, then you dont really know where you are at for sure. Do your homework. Keep researching testing labs. I recomend you connect with some guys on here that are from around the same part of the globe as you so that they can maybe steer you in the right direction as far as where to go. You are definitely on the right track though and I believe the test you have picked out will certainly do the trick for pre cycle.
ZKJ
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Ok cheers man ill check about the cap too
ZKJ
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@Jrock83 hey man could u do me a favour and take a look at this,still searching up on blood tests.
Doin my head in a bit lol
That last test i showed u looked good but cant be done at home with finger prick thing,have to pay and go get done at clinic.
The best one they got is £120 has 44 tests and includes the main:
LH,FSH,TEST,FREE TEST,ESTROGEN,RBC,CREATININE,AST,ALT and CHOLESTEROL.
but that also requires a clinic visit.
Now ive found this one "male hormone check plus"£99 and if i wait untill %20 sale will save a bit. Now this test only has 8 but is only one with the main tests needed:
What do u think does that test look alright?
also whats your opinion on this,ive heard some just get testosterone and maybe estrogen tested before and after cycle.and get a better one during cycle.have u ever done this or do u get full tests pre,during and post cycle?
Cheers
Doin my head in a bit lol
That last test i showed u looked good but cant be done at home with finger prick thing,have to pay and go get done at clinic.
The best one they got is £120 has 44 tests and includes the main:
LH,FSH,TEST,FREE TEST,ESTROGEN,RBC,CREATININE,AST,ALT and CHOLESTEROL.
but that also requires a clinic visit.
Now ive found this one "male hormone check plus"£99 and if i wait untill %20 sale will save a bit. Now this test only has 8 but is only one with the main tests needed:
What do u think does that test look alright?
also whats your opinion on this,ive heard some just get testosterone and maybe estrogen tested before and after cycle.and get a better one during cycle.have u ever done this or do u get full tests pre,during and post cycle?
Cheers
JackSmooth
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If I converted that right that's about 15,000ng/dl.
Yes that's plenty high enough. 500mg will put you around 2,000-3,000ng/dl (varies by person)
JackSmooth
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I would get the more extensive bloood work after cycle to check if your cholesterol, liver, and hematocrit is in a healthy range. Preferably always get the more extensive blood work, this is your health and symptoms don't always show.
Yes sir. As @JackSmooth said, that's plenty high enough. You won't be going anywhere near that.
Again, @JackSmooth gave you some good advice to go by. The basic tests will get you by, but I would highly recomend getting the most extensive and in depth test you can find, especially for your post cycle bloods. Honestly, you need to check pretty in depth while you're on cycle too. These tests are going to tell you what's going on inside of your body. These tests tell you what your body is going through even though you may "feel" fine. Like I've said this entire time, when it comes to blood work and PCT, dont cut corners to save a buck. Keep being thorough and never stop doing research. One day you will have someone that asks for your help and you want to make sure you steer them in the right direction. Hope your cycle goes well sir.
