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ChrisWarrenH

ChrisWarrenH

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Hey guys I'm fairly new here, but I feel like I've done my research.
First cycle will be 750 mg test e from herc a week split up into two pins. Top right and left area of the glutes alternating with a 1.5" needle for pinning. (Mon night and Thurs night. I will probably run this cycle for 10-12 weeks unless something pops up. I will also run arimidex at 1mg a day.
For pct I will just run tamox citrate at 40/40/30/20 and maybe some natty test booster.
BTW I am 190lbs and 6'3 and I am working on getting a diet schedule up before I start pinning here in a day or two. I'll post back with this.
Everything look good?
 
ChrisWarrenH said:
Hey guys I'm fairly new here, but I feel like I've done my research.
First cycle will be 750 mg test e from herc a week split up into two pins. Top right and left area of the glutes alternating with a 1.5" needle for pinning. (Mon night and Thurs night. I will probably run this cycle for 10-12 weeks unless something pops up. I will also run arimidex at 1mg a day.
For pct I will just run tamox citrate at 40/40/30/20 and maybe some natty test booster.
BTW I am 190lbs and 6'3 and I am working on getting a diet schedule up before I start pinning here in a day or two. I'll post back with this.
Everything look good?
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You sure have done research! From the looks of the pic, you are having a testes problem so HPTA failure will not be a concern. I would be very careful pinning since it looks like you might hit bone.
 
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HAHAHA i know man, I'm just gonna go ahead and use the 1.5 on my dick down into my balls direct, because that's the only place I won;t hit bone. JAJA balls should get SWOLE I am gonna be RIPPED . [:o)]
 
Michael Scally MD said:
You sure have done research! From the looks of the pic, you are having a testes problem so HPTA failure will not be a concern. I would be very careful pinning since it looks like you might hit bone.
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on a serious note though, do you think the 1.5" is too long? I've read 1"-1.5" is about right for stabbing in the ass.
 
What is your age?
How long have you been working out?
List some of your max lifts, like Squat, Bench, Dead.
You should probably work on diet well before thinking of a cycle.
In My Opinion, you really need to do a lot more research. The dose of you first cycle is too much and your PCT is inadequate.

I don't mean to burst your bubble but I think more research first will save you a lot wasted time and possible health issues.
 
Gunrunner said:
What is your age?
How long have you been working out?
List some of your max lifts, like Squat, Bench, Dead.
You should probably work on diet well before thinking of a cycle.
In My Opinion, you really need to do a lot more research. The dose of you first cycle is too much and your PCT is inadequate.

I don't mean to burst your bubble but I think more research first will save you a lot wasted time and possible health issues.
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Gunrunner:

Do you have a rear shot (avatar)?
 
I am 29, and I allready have a rather good diet. I keep it as clean as possible. Eat oats with a little milk and fruit for breakfast ( Eat a boiled egg or two aswell). Snacks throughout the day is my main problem. Need to switch over to healthy alternatives cause I eat crappy shit. I break lunch into two parts. Usually consisting of a huge ass piece of fish or chicken over spinache, and I just eat whatever for dinner after I get off of work. Sometimes I eat heavier at dinner time then I should. Last night I ate lean ground turkey meat spaghetti....(and alot of it XD haha) I definitely need to get on a stricter regimine and probably up my intake if I want to bulk some more. I also know 500mg split into two pins a week is normal dosing for starters, but I decided to add another 250mg split between those two days. Should I just stick to the 500 when I do start? Also, I have been lifting for about five years and mainly do compound lifts, but I will also add some iscolation in there depending on what muscle group I am working on that day.. I also am aware my pct is a little light compared to some, but is it really necessary to stack things like clomid with nolva etc etc for pct when all you are doing is coaxing normal test levels back up? And I read no need to do an AI during PCT only while on cycle aswell, what are your thoughts on that? I also know i need to wait two weeks from my last pin before starting pct to wait on test e to completely leave the body. I appreciate your advise, and I do plan on working on these things. I will probably push my cycle back some time to get everything organized. Also sorry If I was a litle brief on alot of this info. I am at work and just typing quickly whenever I get a chance. I can post more detailed info upon request after 5:pm :)

Thanks,
Chris
 
I guess I shouldn't say JUST coaxing test levels back up. I know the nolva only binds the e from the receptors but does not prevent it from being produced so this can become a problem. That is why I thought you should run an AI (but i refuse to use letro) with the pct, but I have read in alot of places not to.any suggestions? I DO also have clomid, but wasn;t planning on using. I have run sarms( Ostaring and LGD4033 in the past) and I perfer the Tamox citrate to clomid. Less shit I have to drink, and is much more effective after a shutdown from LGD 4033 which DID happen after about a months use.... Which is rediculous it even shuts you down as hard as it does in my book.

Also here are these off the top of my head. I keep a log book with each day I workout and what weight I did that day, and I don't have my book on me.
Decline Bench -250
Regular Bench -230
Incline Bench - 210 I struggle here an don't think I finished 5 reps on my third set, but I was tired and this was my last bench press....
Squat - 490 I have HUGE calves and legs naturally so I shine a little more here
Deadlift-380 I believe is what I did last week.. I know I lift somewhere in the late 300's on this one.
Overhead push press right at 200 or so
 
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I do also other greens and fruits I don't just eat the meat over spinache everyday. And sorry for so many posts. I kept re reading some of my info and realized I am giving alot of partial info, and alot of it leads to assumptions, so I feel the need to repost and explain... just a character defect I suppose. lol any ways thanks again guys.
 
ChrisWarrenH said:
I am 29,
I also know 500mg split into two pins a week is normal dosing for starters, but I decided to add another 250mg split between those two days. Should I just stick to the 500 when I do start? I also am aware my pct is a little light compared to some, but is it really necessary to stack things like clomid with nolva etc etc for pct when all you are doing is coaxing normal test levels back up? And I read no need to do an AI during PCT only while on cycle aswell, what are your thoughts on that? I also know i need to wait two weeks from my last pin before starting pct to wait on test e to completely leave the body. I appreciate your advise, and I do plan on working on these things. I will probably push my cycle back some time to get everything organized.
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Ok, were starting to get somewhere here. personally for a first cycle I would recommend only 200mg a week total but others will say more so lets say 400mg a week total spit in two 200mg injections. If your dosing needs to be 250mg per injection that works fine too.

You don't have any AI? What will you do if you have problems while on cycle?

Can you get bloodwork done beforehand to establish a baseline? Get this test as a minimum: Menopause Testing - Private MD
I would keep the cycle at 8-10 weeks.

After two weeks from you last pin, all the test won't be out of your system but probably at a level that PCT can be started then.

The best thing you said was that you will push your cycle back some time to work thing out. Which means learn more, have a good plan and have EVERYTHING on hand before you start the cycle. Trying to get an AI as you grow boobs is not a plan, or trying to get proper PCT gear the last month befor you cycle ends will probably lead to failure. You always want to have some exta AIs and SERMs, more than you think you need. If you have extra left over you can use it next cycle; and there always seems to be a next cycle:D
 
Gunrunner said:
Ok, were starting to get somewhere here. personally for a first cycle I would recommend only 200mg a week total but others will say more so lets say 400mg a week total spit in two 200mg injections. If your dosing needs to be 250mg per injection that works fine too.

You don't have any AI? What will you do if you have problems while on cycle?

Can you get bloodwork done beforehand to establish a baseline? Get this test as a minimum: Menopause Testing - Private MD
I would keep the cycle at 8-10 weeks.

After two weeks from you last pin, all the test won't be out of your system but probably at a level that PCT can be started then.

The best thing you said was that you will push your cycle back some time to work thing out. Which means learn more, have a good plan and have EVERYTHING on hand before you start the cycle. Trying to get an AI as you grow boobs is not a plan, or trying to get proper PCT gear the last month befor you cycle ends will probably lead to failure. You always want to have some exta AIs and SERMs, more than you think you need. If you have extra left over you can use it next cycle; and there always seems to be a next cycle:D
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I do have an AI. I said in my first post I will use 1mg of arimidex during cycle. I also have tamox citrate and clomid. I was stating I would never use letro even if someone advised it. And I stated I didn't intend to use the clomid for pct or the arimidex during pct. I was going to leave the clomid be and not use at all, and only use the arimidex while on cycle. Or should i use the arimides during pct after two weeks from last pin aswell?
 
ChrisWarrenH said:
I do have an AI. I said in my first post I will use 1mg of arimidex during cycle. I also have tamox citrate and clomid. I was stating I would never use letro even if someone advised it. And I stated I didn't intend to use the clomid for pct or the arimidex during pct. I was going to leave the clomid be and not use at all, and only use the arimidex while on cycle. Or should i use the arimides during pct after two weeks from last pin aswell?
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Sorry, I must have skimmed over the part where said you have the Dex. So it's looking pretty good. I personally wouldn't use so much dex. But it would be best to have the labs that I recommeded earlier, while on cycle to test you E2 levels or if you have any gyno issues and adjust your Adex accordingly. I am using .5 EOD but my total gear usage on cycle is only 350 mg a week. My next cycle is going to be around 475mg a week. My thinking is to start with a light cycle, see how you do, adjust accordingly for your next cycle and leave room to grow.

Don't use an AI for PCT, the Tamo should be fine.
 
Sweet! and thanks for the link to the lab. I'll get on that to get a good baseline. Also, I've been reading alot about slin pins, and should I just grab a couple hundred of those, and just backload them with the needles I have. I would hit pecks with the slin pins though instead of glutes
 
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