First DNP Cycle

[cali96]

Whats up guys. Starting a DNP cycle July 6th as follows

Days 1-4: 250 mg crystalline ed
Days 5-17 500 mg crystalline ed
After that off for hopefully ever depending on results

I am 20 y/o 6' 3 202 lbs right now. rough guess I would say 21-23% bf will post pics on first day
I plan on taking NO support supps. Just 2 gal water per day, 1-2 cups v8, 25 mg ephedrine and 200 mg caffeine and a bj's multi so i guess 3 support supps actually LOL. Again, this is my first cycle but I think I can handle it. I will get nutrients and electrolytes through food and drink. eating at 2500 cals 50/30/20 macros. clean foods greek yogurt, oats, brown rice, sweet potatoe, chicken, honey, fruits veggies.

Will be back on 7-6-2016 to begin the daily updates

GOALS when it is all said and done: 188lbs and 15% bf or less

 

[cali96]

Last dnp dose was day 12 at 9 AM. Yesterday (day 12) i took 2 zyrtec at 10 am and 2 benadryl at 10 pm. Today i took 2 zyrtec at 9am and will take a benadryl before bed. Rash has slightly improved but also spread on body more. I will contine 2 Zyrtec and 1 Benadryl every day until rash is gone and then 1 Benadryl every night during dnp cycle when i start up again

 

[cali96]

Rash looks a little better but still itches terribly. Going to doc for 5 day prednisone script

 

[fodsod]

And the final results? Worth it? Or not?

We want to see side by side before and after pics. You did all this for a reason so let's see the final results.

 

[cali96]

And the final results? Worth it? Or not?

We want to see side by side before and after pics. You did all this for a reason so let's see the final results.

Will have pics as soon as rash clears and water goes down. Still holding lots as havent gymed today or yesterday because itchiness from rash. Expect decent results but not what i wanted as cycle length was halved

 

[master.on]

I thought people were smarter these days about dnp but I guess you're still living under a rock thinking 95% of users die or get cataracts
I'll be honest, no shit i could lose the weight slowly over a few months I've done it in the past. But i want to fucm around with dnp. Plus with the anti catabolic effects and 9:1 fat muscle ratio this is much more muscle sparring. But thanks for your input nancy, have a nice night

While dnp side effects are overly exaggerated
it is still a dangerous drug
why do you want to lose fat so fast?

OP, I recommend you join up on UG to get more unbiased advice on DNP, as you can see this board simply isn't the place for this.



Jim, your completely clueless on DNP's MOA and have clearly not bothered to educate yourself further since last year.
T3 is well known as a catabolic hormone because it INCREASES protein breakdown. DNP DECREASES protein breakdown and therefore cannot be considered a catabolic compound. Here are a few links I recommend you read through to develop a better understanding of whats is going on here -
Metabolic stress and altered glucose transport: activation of AMP-activated protein kinase as a unifying coupling mechanism. - PubMed - NCBI

Differential effects of insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) and IGF-binding protein-1 on protein metabolism in human skeletal muscle cells. - PubMed - NCBI



Err...because DNP is a dangerous compound and its worth researching the supplier thoroughly in case they end up being completely retards?
Just a thought.

While I think you will lose WAY less muscle with DNP as compared to T3
DNP ain't anticatabolic at all

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Red and black boxers are at 202 lbs 35.8 inch waist from 7-1-16. Blue boxers are post vacation 212 lbs 36.5 inch waist. Just took first dnp pill with breakfast. Will post about day 1 tmrw. Continuing log at Upcoming DNP log since 2 logs that are the same seems like a waste of time

No offense but where's the beef?
Why do you want to risk using a dangerous drug dnp if you have so little muscle? Again no offense
but dnp may be better left to competitive bodybuilders
or at least those who want to earn a quick dime stripping (hopefully to female audiences LOL)

Will have pics as soon as rash clears and water goes down. Still holding lots as havent gymed today or yesterday because itchiness from rash. Expect decent results but not what i wanted as cycle length was halved

Post the pics all with your rash
so newbies can know how ban dnp rash can be

 

[cali96]

While dnp side effects are overly exaggerated
it is still a dangerous drug
why do you want to lose fat so fast?



While I think you will lose WAY less muscle with DNP as compared to T3
DNP ain't anticatabolic at all



No offense but where's the beef?
Why do you want to risk using a dangerous drug dnp if you have so little muscle? Again no offense
but dnp may be better left to competitive bodybuilders
or at least those who want to earn a quick dime stripping (hopefully to female audiences LOL)


Post the pics all with your rash
so newbies can know how ban dnp rash can be

The rash pics are back on page 5

 

[cali96]

So here is what's going on. Doc gave me pred, said rash wasnt hives but contact dermatitis rather. Took 6 pred (day 1 dose). Takes till 3rd day to kick in so to anyone thinking about using DNP, be prepared for the worst. Since rash sunday i have been up every night til 3am not falling asleep due to itch but i never scratch it. Just try to ignore and toss and turn. To protect yourself try this, as i will be when I start my 2nd run hopefully august 2nd: 1.6 gram Quercetin a day week before cycle, during, and after for a week. a benadryl a night starting 2 days before cycle, during, and week after. If i get another rash on 2nd run then i will dump dnp and never touch again

 

[cali96]

Rash is not very visible anymore. itchiness is still there but not as bad. prednisone is doing its job. I somehow managed to force my way to the gym last night (this was before prednisone had kicked in) despite my terrible itchiness for an 80 minute lift and 40 min walk on treadmill. horrible idea and had a horrible lift but I wanted to get some water out of me since i had finished my workout last thursday and yesterday was tuesday so over 4 days with no activity and also before i gain water potentially from prednisone. i think the workout was so bad since i was: covered in hives, itchy beyond belief, had maybe 5 uninterrupted hours of sleep over last 60 hours, and dnp was slowly lowering in my body so weight was dropping therefore i did workout at lighter weight. anyway so this morning I decided to hope on scale. I was 198.4 with a 35 inch waist. this means over the cycle i dropped 13.6 lbs (remember i held tons of water post florida probably 5-6 lbs that would have dropped in 2 days anyway) and 1.5 inch off waist on 12 day dnp. i am happy though i do not see any huge differences in mirror. i dont think i will drop any more water but who knows. i have only been off it for 3 days. pics will be posted after this post. i plan to post one more set in 5-7 days when all dnp is officially gone and also so that i can shave body like before pics because i have not shaved due to the hives being everywhere i shave

 

[cali96]

ok so these are just straight up. last pic flexing is just to show i dont have zero muscle. i am not tooting my own horn haha but my other pics make me look like I have never touched a weight. also i actually look kind of flat in this pic and did not flex my left arm well as it looks better than this pic. but no more excuses i will put a few flex pics up when i do final dnp pics in about a week

 

[cali96]

comparison pics i made. i know it looks like shit but the older pics were larger in size so i could not zoom or move around much but i tried to make it look as good as possible

 

[RodgerThat]

Haha I was not attacking you the TLDR was a joke at anyone. No need to take it personally. As for the part about DNP not being hepatoxic that is a scientifically researched fact not me pandering to myself trying to find a forum answer to justify my choice I made

I have a serious problem with this, you are only posting what you want to make it seem fine. Sure maybe dnp doesn't directly attack your liver enzymes and cells (I don't know if that's true or not tbh) but the thing is your body really likes working at a certain temperature and when you raise your core body temp like you do with dnp you are putting a large amount of stress on your origins, exact same reason why they start to shut down when a fever gets too high. So saying it isn't hepatoxic doesn't mean that it isn't damaging your liver.

Edit: just so you are aware I have used dnp and am not against its use it does have a purpose but I don't like when guys are treating it as some magical short cut when they don't have the diet and they consistently up the dosage or don't back off when there are incredibly clear signs to stop.

 

[cali96]

I have a serious problem with this, you are only posting what you want to make it seem fine. Sure maybe dnp doesn't directly attack your liver enzymes and cells (I don't know if that's true or not tbh) but the thing is your body really likes working at a certain temperature and when you raise your core body temp like you do with dnp you are putting a large amount of stress on your origins, exact same reason why they start to shut down when a fever gets too high. So saying it isn't hepatoxic doesn't mean that it isn't damaging your liver.

Edit: just so you are aware I have used dnp and am not against its use it does have a purpose but I don't like when guys are treating it as some magical short cut when they don't have the diet and they consistently up the dosage or don't back off when there are incredibly clear signs to stop.

I actually agree with you. That was well said. I never really looked at it like that but yes i do agree that raising your core temp which dnp does definitely can/does damage any thing internally or at the very least, put more stress on it by causing the organ(s) to work in a hotter environment than they are used to. This is why dnp is dangerous to take no matter how prepared you are or what supps you run with it but at least with a knowledgable base by researching first you can try to make dnp do as little damage as possible. This is also why i aimed for 2+ gals a day of water. I have 0 science to back me up on this but i felt like the water helped my body abd organs inside due to the increased temp. Whether it actually made a difference i dont know but more water is always better (to a degree)

 

[mghoward74]

@cali96

You could have gotten those results with

1.) 15 days of cardio (eod)..running 3 miles
2.) Chicken/beef and salad (3 × a day)
3.) 2 protein shakes a day w/bcaa

● weight training everyday (evenings) or alternate days from cardio●

 

[cali96]

@cali96

You could have gotten those results with

1.) 15 days of cardio (eod)..running 3 miles
2.) Chicken/beef and salad (3 × a day)
3.) 2 protein shakes a day w/bcaa

● weight training everyday (evenings) or alternate days from cardio●

Yes but lets say i choose chicken and go with 8 oz raw. That would be less than 1400 cals a day. With a 3 mile run eod and lifting obviously you would have great results but i could never handle that low cals and all that running. Thats why the dnp was awesome. Eat 2500 cals do 2-3 200 cal sessions of cardio and lift heavy 4 days for better results. Also what you proposed has alot of potential to ruin someones metabolism

 

[RodgerThat]

Yes but lets say i choose chicken and go with 8 oz raw. That would be less than 1400 cals a day. With a 3 mile run eod and lifting obviously you would have great results but i could never handle that low cals and all that running. Thats why the dnp was awesome. Eat 2500 cals do 2-3 200 cal sessions of cardio and lift heavy 4 days for better results. Also what you proposed has alot of potential to ruin someones metabolism

Ruin someone's metabolism how so? Also you would have had better muscle retaintion off the dnp. Either way it's done now and hopefully you are gonna spend some time off everything and get a real program and diet nailed down

 

[cali96]

Ruin someone's metabolism how so? Also you would have had better muscle retaintion off the dnp. Either way it's done now and hopefully you are gonna spend some time off everything and get a real program and diet nailed down

That amount of cardio with a 1400 cal a day diet. That would bring you close to starvation which for makes is 800-1000 i believe. Correct me if thats wrong

 

[Docd187123]

That amount of cardio with a 1400 cal a day diet. That would bring you close to starvation which for makes is 800-1000 i believe. Correct me if thats wrong

Starvation doesn't ruin your metabolism.

 

[cali96]

But it's unhealthy. Or am i just crazy because even looking it up it says it's unhealthy and dangerous for males to drop below 1500 cal

 

[RodgerThat]

Then don't eat 1400 cals eat 2400 cals but do your cardio and HIIT and lift weights then your total cals after energy energy expenditure would be like 1400 cals. But also I have no idea why you are so stuck to a stupidly low number of calories when you cut that fast with out much LBM the end result isn't going to be something you want anyways.

 

[Eman]

I don't even know what to say about this log...

@cali96 you hardly had any fat to lose to even be fooling with DNP.