Ok yeah. It's your call. I wasn't trying to influence you one way or the other. I just wanted you to be aware before you placed an intl order. Good luck with everything. I don't have much to add. @Eman and @BigBaldBeardGuy gave you good advice. I posted this in another thread but some good advice that another member @bolder gave me was to keep a log of how you felt and the results you got from each cycle. He also recommended only changing one compound at a time. This way you can tell how you react to certain AAS and make future cycles more effective. I already did this to some extent but I thought his method was better because it is more specific. He is very knowledgable as well.
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Ok yeah. It's your call. I wasn't trying to influence you one way or the other. I just wanted you to be aware before you placed an intl order. Good luck with everything. I don't have much to add. @Eman and @BigBaldBeardGuy gave you good advice. I posted this in another thread but some good advice that another member @bolder gave me was to keep a log of how you felt and the results you got from each cycle. He also recommended only changing one compound at a time. This way you can tell how you react to certain AAS and make future cycles more effective. I already did this to some extent but I thought his method was better because it is more specific. He is very knowledgable as well.
Great advice brother!
limitphobic
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no sweat, heck if it helps, if your USA local, their domestic ships fast its just pricier than id prefer
Yeah its ridiculously pricey. I don't really care but if you look around the underground there are places you can get domestic test e that tests out at 300mg/ml for $30 not $78 and 3-5 T/A. Its whatever you prefer/works for you though.
limitphobic
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Wow thats amazing but I'm still to new to be asking for sources like that i'd love to find one though hint hint hint haha
You have received some of the best advice you will ever get here.
Run the test at 600mg week.
No Ai till after mid cycle bloods and then be very careful dosing as good arimidex is stout af and crashed e2 sucks bigtime.
Hcg begins if u use it 2weeks before engd of cycle.
If you run hcg during cycle know that it will elevate e2 above just test only.
Clomid at 4 weeks post cycle imo .....
Forget running anything else this cycle.
Now the hard part....
Your food bill will make the labs and gear seem cheap.
Dial in the nutrition.
8 hrs sleep minimum to aid recovery. If you dont sleep well or enough you are limiting gains.
Finally....Have fun!
Run the test at 600mg week.
No Ai till after mid cycle bloods and then be very careful dosing as good arimidex is stout af and crashed e2 sucks bigtime.
Hcg begins if u use it 2weeks before engd of cycle.
If you run hcg during cycle know that it will elevate e2 above just test only.
Clomid at 4 weeks post cycle imo .....
Forget running anything else this cycle.
Now the hard part....
Your food bill will make the labs and gear seem cheap.
Dial in the nutrition.
8 hrs sleep minimum to aid recovery. If you dont sleep well or enough you are limiting gains.
Finally....Have fun!
Gymjitsu
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Test is really cheap, so is anavar honestly. No way in hell id pay Pharmacom prices anymore for some fancy ugl gear.
Just a few things... read @BigBaldBeardGuy first post here and follow that to a t. Second drop the other sarm during pct but the GW50156 is fine you can run that if you want since it’s not suppressive and the only real benefits you get from it is endurance and lowering bad cholesterol while raising good cholesterol. Third 10 days is that what you were implying you shipping time was from payment? That’s way too long for domestic my man that’s literally 3x the times I usually get mine in. I almost always get my packs in 2-3 days but 3-5 is acceptable and not bad at all. I’ve gotten international packs in 10 days or less before. Last don’t ever pay more than $40 for a bottle of test again my man $25-$35 is the normal range and if your paying $40 it should be something high milligram like test 400.
Your In the right spot man read around here and make your own decisions on who to use. On meso it’s not hard to figure out who the appealing sources are. Don’t read just a couple pages either man dedicate a couple days to reading everything you can about a source before using them. I’m only going to tell you this because I know most are stubborn and not going to read through a whole thread so at least do yourself due diligence and read the beginning and the last couple months to see what’s going on a a minimum but I would seriously recommend reading all of it. Oh and last but not least don’t buy gear from people sending you PMs “trying to help you out” you will at best get some bottles of sterile oil that way.
Your In the right spot man read around here and make your own decisions on who to use. On meso it’s not hard to figure out who the appealing sources are. Don’t read just a couple pages either man dedicate a couple days to reading everything you can about a source before using them. I’m only going to tell you this because I know most are stubborn and not going to read through a whole thread so at least do yourself due diligence and read the beginning and the last couple months to see what’s going on a a minimum but I would seriously recommend reading all of it. Oh and last but not least don’t buy gear from people sending you PMs “trying to help you out” you will at best get some bottles of sterile oil that way.
Shit you really did get some good advice for someone just starting out in this thread man. Since I’m feeling generous today I’ll give you one more piece. Read and absorb as much as you can. Don’t take someone’s post for gold and follow that advice solely. Read cross reference and cross refer some more. Try to get all of your knowledge from pub facts and not opinions or what works for one guy. Either way you go about it this game is always trial and error when your first starting out. You have to find out what works well for you. You want to have as much knowledge as possible about what your doing so when you do run into an issue you will already have a good idea about how to go about fixing it. Do not rely solely on making a thread when you have a question or run into a problem because I can assure you that will not work. No one is going to spoon feed you or anyone else here but we will gladly point you in the right direction to figure it out for yourself. I’m not saying don’t ask questions but don’t be the guy who makes a thread everytime they have a question as their first option without trying to look into the situation in the slightest.
limitphobic
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I've read every word of every single comment and I can't emphasis this enough... thank you, everybody. I try to DMOR but dang this stuff gets not only complicated but convoluted. 1 place tells you this, the other tells you that, same site different threads, different opinions. I'll keep this cycle very simple. 12 weeks test at 500mg/week. see where E2 is at on mid cycle bloods. PCT will be clomid and nolva and test booster.
lift:eat:sleep:get big
And as for sources, I only have the one, pharmacom, and I think I'll stick with them for now if only to build up some street cred with you fine gentlemen. I'll sift some threads on sources just really sketched out, these labs come and go so fast. what was once beast is now bunk. etc.
If the gym opens up in June, Thats when my first cycle will begin instead of september as planned. Summer cycle sound like fun. Ill definetely keep this thread active when the time comes so keep an eye out for it around june 21st, 2020.
Thanks again, everyone. Y'all really straightened me out.
lift:eat:sleep:get big
And as for sources, I only have the one, pharmacom, and I think I'll stick with them for now if only to build up some street cred with you fine gentlemen. I'll sift some threads on sources just really sketched out, these labs come and go so fast. what was once beast is now bunk. etc.
If the gym opens up in June, Thats when my first cycle will begin instead of september as planned. Summer cycle sound like fun. Ill definetely keep this thread active when the time comes so keep an eye out for it around june 21st, 2020.
Thanks again, everyone. Y'all really straightened me out.
limitphobic
Member
Ok bare yourselves... I just did my first pin. Not starting the cycle but the thought of what pinning would be like was driving me insane so i decided to do 1cc of e300 to find out what to expect.
1st: SHAKY AS FUCK!!!
pretty sure some nasty pip is to come.. still a bit shaky 15 minutes after, area of butt is kind of tender. Hope i got it in the muscle. did the best i could. shaking so bad and needle was stabbing me to-and-fro from me tryna fix my hands to do the tasks (aspirating and pushing the plunger). had to do twice, first time i wasnt even sure it was in, no pain at all (what a relief) (I changed needles)
2nd: time for a bigger gauge. 25 is way to small i think. might go for 23.
3rd: glute pins are a pain i might try other places next time. just awkward to deal with, cant tell wtf im doing.
if i didnt get it in muscle, say SubQ, i read that wouldnt be a big deal but id like to hear what yall have to say. also, had to push hard AF on the plunger is that normal?
good news is: I'm not afraid of the pins to come and next time i wont be so gd shaky!
1st: SHAKY AS FUCK!!!
pretty sure some nasty pip is to come.. still a bit shaky 15 minutes after, area of butt is kind of tender. Hope i got it in the muscle. did the best i could. shaking so bad and needle was stabbing me to-and-fro from me tryna fix my hands to do the tasks (aspirating and pushing the plunger). had to do twice, first time i wasnt even sure it was in, no pain at all (what a relief) (I changed needles)
2nd: time for a bigger gauge. 25 is way to small i think. might go for 23.
3rd: glute pins are a pain i might try other places next time. just awkward to deal with, cant tell wtf im doing.
if i didnt get it in muscle, say SubQ, i read that wouldnt be a big deal but id like to hear what yall have to say. also, had to push hard AF on the plunger is that normal?
good news is: I'm not afraid of the pins to come and next time i wont be so gd shaky!
Cognativedissonant
Member
You’re not starting your cycle, but just injected 300mg of test e? You might as well start your cycle...
limitphobic
Member
nah bro i just wanted to get a feel of what to expect when pinning, ... i got a feel lmao ill probably be walking with a limp for a couple days real talk i was shaking so so bad. used 1" 25 gauge needle. Im running my cycle in June
Cognativedissonant
Member
You shouldn’t have done that. I understand it’s new and exciting but everyone here is trying to help you not fuck your shit up. Nobody said to pin one time just to get a feel for it. Your increase in test is gonna cause some suppression. The increase in test will inhibit GnRH which will cause LH and FSH to drop which will cause you to produce less T on your own. You’ll probably be fine but don’t be over eager. This is a marathon, not a race if you don’t fully understand what’s going on before you start, you could em up seriously messing with your health.
limitphobic
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I understand what you’re saying. one pin will suppress test a little, a whole cycle will too, one pin won’t do much harm in all honesty but I like to know what to expect. Rushing things would be starting my cycle prematurely like you recommended earlier...
agreed, SARMs can/will hinder recovery . As others mentioned HCG the last few weeks of cycle ending couple days before PCT would be ideal IMO and also i would honestly run the test for 14 weeks personally
1-inch is fine, you got into muscle as long as you’re not a total fat ass.
One thing I noticed when I started was that if I pinned first thing in the morning I was a lot less shaky.
It’s ok not to aspirate. I used to do that, and then stopped. No issues. You might cough but you’re not going to die.
Stick with 25 gauge. That’s a good size that most guys use.
Definitely try other sites to pin but make sure you have a general idea of what you’re doing. YouTube has a few videos with nurses showing how to do it. It’s no problem going SubQ but a ml is a lot so would leave a nice lump.
I draw with a 23g 1.5" and pin with a 25g 1.5" but usually don't go all the way in, especially delts
Stick with the 25ga for pinning, you'll get used to it. You probably thought it was taking forever because you wanted to rush and get it over with... Take your time, go slow. It's awkward for everyone at first.
If you want to practice pinning, don't do it with test or other hormones... Get injectable b12. It's more forgiving than oil but it lets you get a feel for pin sites and everything. Honestly, it just takes time to get used to it... Once you've done it a few thousand times it becomes a mindless task.
If you want to practice pinning, don't do it with test or other hormones... Get injectable b12. It's more forgiving than oil but it lets you get a feel for pin sites and everything. Honestly, it just takes time to get used to it... Once you've done it a few thousand times it becomes a mindless task.
AIRBORNE DADDY
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And it looked like he was going to start PCT two weeks after his last pin...I go after about 25days
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