first time any imput?

[Loren Richardson]

so i got a mix of test and nano blend that i was gonna do a 600mg a week, 8-10 week cycle. (one ml shot of the blend is ;Testosterone Phenylpropionate 130 mg, Testosterone Decanoate 270 mg. Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 70 mg, Nandrolone Decanoate 130 mg.) i was gonna do this for 5 weeks then start stanz for 5-6 weeks to end the cycle and begin my pst 2 weeks after it ends with clomid 50mg a day (1 pill) for 3 weeks. everything i got is liquid and im curious as to how much stanz i should use a week or day or if i should just wait till i complete the mix then use the stanz, and ifso do i take the clomid with the stanz? any and all imput would be appreciated.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

This is your first cycle? Awfully complicated blend for a first-timer.

Save it. Get just a long or short ester test for your first go.

 

[Loren Richardson]

took me like 2 months to get this stuff still waiting for it should be here tomorrow id really like to start it, ur saying i shouldnt use it yet? would it be bad if i did? i was gonna go half ml for the first week or 2 see how it works but what would u recommend?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Your first cycle needs nothing but test;

1. Because just test is going blow you out of the water coming from natty
2. Lay a foundation for understanding your individual response to AAS
3. Isolate and handle side effects one at a time rather than several compounds worth at once

If you ignore the above, usefulness of the blend aside:
1. Winstrol is a HARSH compound to fuck with for most guys, nevermind a first timer
2. Your PCT is starting WAY too early; deca and test dec will be in your system for nearly 2 months
3. Use HCG during the cycle...that blend is guna shut you down hard
4. 10 weeks isn’t long enough for either long ester to have significant effect worth being shut down for..12 weeks minimum

 

[Big_paul]

This is your first cycle? Awfully complicated blend for a first-timer.

Save it. Get just a long or short ester test for your first go.

Test 500mg e or cyp/ wk would be a better 1st cycle.

 

[Loren Richardson]

what do you mean shut me down? like stop my norm test? and your saying the clomid itself isnt gonna be what i need?? what if i did just the stanz and clomid?

 

[Loren Richardson]

so doing 600mg a week of that blend wont help me? i should just wait on that?

 

[Eman]

You just need to slow way the fuck down. You're asking some very very novice questions that make it clear you haven't researched even close to enough before pulling the trigger on this.

Keep reading... Put the brakes on this cycle for a few months.

 

[SmallWoody]

what do you mean shut me down? like stop my norm test? and your saying the clomid itself isnt gonna be what i need?? what if i did just the stanz and clomid?

What are your stats. A good first cycle is 500mg test e a week. Simple and effective for a first timer.

 

[Loren Richardson]

i dont have a vast background no, what i reasurched pretty much just said clomid after ur done and dont go to long on cycles, all other info is just the descriptions on what the cycles do, so i figured a mix of nano n test would give me a good bulk and then stanz to cut.

 

[Loren Richardson]

so ill put this on hold, and ill go get just test e, so 500mg a week of that for 12 weeks will give me a good bulk? and the clomid for aftrer that, and get some hcg to do with the stanz if i use it?

 

[Loren Richardson]

im 6.5 260lbs, i used to be solid 200 muscle but lost it all looking to get back, been working out hard for a month now starting to get back up my muscle mass but still high body fat

 

[SmallWoody]

I'd workout a little bit longer or else your going to injure yourself from working out to hard when your strength increases. But once your ready in a few months run Test e for 500mg a week for 12 weeks. After you stop the test wait two more weeks for your levels to even out and hop on clomid for 4 weeks.

 

[Dead]

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so i got a mix of test and nano blend that i was gonna do a 600mg a week, 8-10 week cycle. (one ml shot of the blend is ;Testosterone Phenylpropionate 130 mg, Testosterone Decanoate 270 mg. Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 70 mg, Nandrolone Decanoate 130 mg.) i was gonna do this for 5 weeks then start stanz for 5-6 weeks to end the cycle and begin my pst 2 weeks after it ends with clomid 50mg a day (1 pill) for 3 weeks. everything i got is liquid and im curious as to how much stanz i should use a week or day or if i should just wait till i complete the mix then use the stanz, and ifso do i take the clomid with the stanz? any and all imput would be appreciated.

test decoanate? Good luck figuring out how to pct and control estrogen with that long ass fuckin ester. Shoulda kept it simple with cyp e or prop. Just run test by itself so u know what it does for u and u can know the side effects

 

[Dead]

i dont have a vast background no, what i reasurched pretty much just said clomid after ur done and dont go to long on cycles, all other info is just the descriptions on what the cycles do, so i figured a mix of nano n test would give me a good bulk and then stanz to cut.

Should not cut and bulk in the same cycle. Stanz will just dry you out. It won’t cut u up. Ur diet will

Secondly never run an oral without test unless u wanna feel like dog shit

Third don’t run an oral on your first cycle. Get the most out of the least.

U need to research half lives of the esters so you know when it comes out of the body. I wouldn’t go any wear near nandrolone as a beginner. Shits in you a long time and causes some people shut down they can’t come back from

 

[LeoTC]

Best advice is to not be a lazy fuck. Get you're diet in check, drop the extra weight, keep training full on while you do it.

While you're doing all that?

Read. A lot.

There are no shortcuts here. If you hop on now, with no idea what you're doing, you'll regret it.

 

[Dead]

And Oh yeah steroids aren’t fat burners

 

[Btcowboy]

OP how old are you?

Ut the brakes on and Spend some time on this forum and learn everything you possibly can. There is a ton of information here you just need to read.

I finished my first blast last year and I am 44. Been wanting to run gear since I was 18 but didnt because I didnt know what I was doing. It too a lot of research into what does what, what are the sides, how to control the sides, what to do pre, intra and post blast.

There is alot more to running gear than just ordering, pinning and getting what you want, rinse, and repeat. There are far too many variables which are individual. This is why a solid first cycle is 500mg test c or e only cycle for 12 weeks.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Don't even touch anabolic. If you're asking what he means by "shutting you down" ... If you don't understand what each drug specifically does to your body and I don't mean the knowledge of hcg turning you balls back on, HOW does it turn your balls back on. WHAT mechanisms does it work? What HOW does testosterone work? What happens on the inside when mixing it all? How do the different AIs work? Id be scared shitless to inject a blend like that because that's just insane. I wouldn't have an idea where to start to manage the side effects, because you will get side effects. Come on now... You see all this great information this is all really basic. Just go read through some old threads and its pretty simple.. I think I have one explaining my 2nd cycle. Do the same thing just take out the mast and anavar. Not my body but just my recommendation

 

[Loren Richardson]

thanks guys, i appretiate all the help. im deff gonna wait a bit on this and just try out some short ester test over summer. and i just wanted to be clear on what he ment i know it stops natural test production been reading a bit on it but obviously not enough.