first time cycle any adice and tips, week 7 now

[Test_Subject]

so what about all the professionals that admit to starting a 18 19yearold lol ! im not using that as a excuse for my age with starting it as like i said earlier i have my own reasons as you have yours. i clearly understood the possible sidr effects before i took steriods but as everthing its a risk you take ? im not exactly banging tren and other chemicals into my body for my first cycle i understand im taking 900mg a week which is way too much so i will drop it back down to 500-600mg a week instead
now thankyou for your comments i really appricate the bullshit advice given by you but if you wouldnt mind going to somebody elses forum becausr im looking for guys who actually know what there doing on roids so i can get some advice thanks for your time

Holy fuck. Format your ranting, bro.

 

[8654]

i well and truely understand i am young and should have done it later on but iv put so much effort in other the last 3 years to drop for 19 stone of fat down to 14 stone you can imagine the loose skin i had, no matter what i did i couldnt get rid of it and it would take ages to build the muscle to strwch it back out trust me i really thought that 1 though it was a last decsion as i said id necer do it but decided to,
reason my friend put me on test is to see how my body reacts to it and right now its completely fine
i started with 1ml monday 1ml thursday then went up that little bit after week 5
if i was go to back down to say 600mg a week but i notice a decrease in strenght now ? would there be anything different change (serious anwser on that 1 please guys)
another one i want to ask you is regard the pct
my friend actually said just to take some nrg testo booster as he says that kick starts everything naturally again but another guy said its bullshit and i need to be taking nolva and chlo ?
i know i should have learned alot more before jumping on the roid wagon but im learning as o go along

Listen to the advice given to you man. I laid it out for you in my first post. Take it or leave it.

Drop to 500mg Test/ week.
You are going into week 8 correct?
Week 8-12 Anavar at 50-100mg/day.

Week 12 stop your test and 2 weeks after last injection start your PCT as I described with Nolva and Chlomid.

Take time off and learn.

Do not ever listen to your buddy again or you are going to fuck yourself up and you are to young to start off like that.

Do not start a Tren cycle until you get it together.

Always have your entire cycle laid out with all meds on hand.

Get your Macro's in check.

Get disciplined or fail.

DO not use Masteron unless your BF% is below 10%

 

[Lewispenn2017]

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thanks for that mate going to take that advice and use it !
saw my mate this morning because he owns the gym i go to told him next time hes injects me i want to knock it down to 1ml instead back to 500-600mg a week instead
his reply was ohh you cant do that now your body is dependant on 1.5 each time so you cant go back down or you will lose your strength ect is that roght or is he just still talking shit i listened to him for advice before but he clearly just used me as a fucking experiment ffs

 

[8654]

Rubish mate. Your friend is unwise and incompetent. Find a real friend.

Why are you not injecting yourself? Just wondering but if you can't inject yourself then you are probably not ready for this. You need to make your own decisions based on sound knowledge, research, and judgement. You will find it here and be given good advice or be smashed for being stupid. It is only to protect you.

Stop listening to the Wanker in the gym and get away from him. I am assuming you are in the UK? You should be able to get all kinds of legit meds on your own over there and administer them yourself when you are ready.

Finish this cycle as advised. PCT. Set your goals and come back here for help designing a cycle that will work for your given goals and experience.

 

[anfee]

Holy hell.

OP - stop trusting your friend now. He does not have your health in mind. Your body is NOT dependent on 900mg of test every week. From what you have said, he sounds like an author of BroScience.

8654 has given you some solid advice. What I don't quite agree with is the addition of anavar. Stick to 1 compound for the first cycle.

Additionally, if I were to give you my honest opinion, stop now. Pct. then get bloodwork about 2 - 3 months later. You'll want to make sure you've recovered properly.

But your "friend" is a fucking moron. Please stop listening to him. 900mg of test is ridiculous bud. Just crazy.

Recap. Drop the dose to 500mg or drop the cycle completely. Regardless of dropping dose or dropping the cycle, PCT as 8654 has lined out for you.

 

[Throwback]

Holy hell.

OP - stop trusting your friend now. He does not have your health in mind. Your body is NOT dependent on 900mg of test every week. From what you have said, he sounds like an author of BroScience.

8654 has given you some solid advice. What I don't quite agree with is the addition of anavar. Stick to 1 compound for the first cycle.

Additionally, if I were to give you my honest opinion, stop now. Pct. then get bloodwork about 2 - 3 months later. You'll want to make sure you've recovered properly.

But your "friend" is a fucking moron. Please stop listening to him. 900mg of test is ridiculous bud. Just crazy.

Recap. Drop the dose to 500mg or drop the cycle completely. Regardless of dropping dose or dropping the cycle, PCT as 8654 has lined out for you.

I agree...drop cycle...pct..research then start over.

 

[LordSamuilo]

his reply was ohh you cant do that now your body is dependant on 1.5 each time so you cant go back

Well , thats just asinine , its testosterone not fucking heroin lol ... your friend (and I use that term loosely) is taking you for a ride ! How much is he charging you for this service he's giving you . It sounds like he's just using you to make a quick buck my man !

And then to top it off suggested a test booster as your pct after 12 weeks on nearly a gram of gear , clearly doesn't give a fuck about your health ...

You need to finish this cycle do a proper pct , and do ALOT of research before you attempt this again ... otherwise start looking into a good endocrinologist because your gonna need someone with more experience than your " friend " the help fix the disaster thats inevitably coming... not being a prick either, thats legitimate advice..

 

[Ophydian]

OP makes me want to eat several donuts.

 

[Lewispenn2017]

charges me £35 a bottle, iv had a word with him anyway told him i want it dropping to 1ml monday and thursday so i only had 1ml this morning.
to be honest my girlfriends brothers whos been on gear for a while did suggest for me in the beginning to take 500mg no more and then take nolva and chlo as pct, just me been stupid enough to listen to the other guy.
iv stopped listen to him anyway now not going to learn jack shit from him and im just going to listen to my girlfriends brothers amd all the advice you guys have gave me matches what he said a month before he started so just going to listen to him from now on

 

[Robfromga]

Listen dude. Listen. Are you listening? That guy, the gym bro....is a full on fucking you over. He's taking advantage of you because you're a naive kid, he's just doing it with a smile.

Never ever ever pay someone to inject you.

You've been banging a gram a week with no ai? He's been injecting you with oil, not a hormone. Go get some blood work asap. And dont ever talk to that dickhead again.

 

[anfee]

Listen dude. Listen. Are you listening? That guy, the gym bro....is a full on fucking you over. He's taking advantage of you because you're a naive kid, he's just doing it with a smile.

Never ever ever pay someone to inject you.

You've been banging a gram a week with no ai? He's been injecting you with oil, not a hormone. Go get some blood work asap. And dont ever talk to that dickhead again.

Oh shit... didn't realize you weren't taking an AI...

Rob is 100% absolutely correct. Now I'm real interested to see what your bloodwork comes back like. 900mg/wk and no AI?? My nips would be puffy as fuck and sensitive as shit with a slight breeze.

Stop all injections. Stop all "gear".

Do a full PCT and then get bloodwork to make sure you have recovered from whatever he's been injecting you with.

Seriously, bud. Many of us want you to grow up and be a monster, but we want to see you do it the right way. Halt. PCT. re-evaluate your bloods and your friendship with this guy. Come on back or stay a while and do some research for when you're ready to discuss further cycles, nutrition, workout programs, anything. Meso is a small community of people who just want to get fucking jacked/shredded, but we also want to live a healthy life.

I'll end my rant and get off my soapbox [emoji851][emoji8]

 

[LordSamuilo]

Rob is 100% absolutely correct. Now I'm real interested to see what your bloodwork comes back like. 900mg/wk and no AI?? My nips would be puffy as fuck and sensitive as shit with a slight breeze.

Yeah I didnt realize that either , bet thats why the fucker told him to take a test booster for his pct because he knew he wasnt shut down !

Im just trying to wrap my head around which scenario is worse though

A) pinning him with 900mg of test with no ai or planned pct
Or
B)pinning him with some mystery oil (probably straight unfiltered cooking oil) and charging him for it !

Either way he's a grimy piece of shit ... hopefully karma catches up to him sooner than later ...

 

[Ophydian]

Remember also he was taking Var at 60 mg a day so either he was taking Anavar without a test or both products were bunk.

 

[Robfromga]

Remember also he was taking Var at 60 mg a day so either he was taking Anavar without a test or both products were bunk.

His test is bunk and the var is most likely bunk. Anavar raws are more expensive than test. But you're right, if there's any hormone in the var he's shut down.

Fucking 900 with out an ai? Never mind the tits...I'd be one ball of fucking acne. Jesus.

 

[Robfromga]

also running adex half a tab eod just to let you know

Ok, just saw this you are on ai. You still don't have a pct. You don't need tren. You need some blood work. At 900mg you should be like 3500ng/nl or more. At week 7 and that dose you should be fucking everything with a pussy and have a noticable strength increase IF you have any lifting experience.

I'm not ripping you, we're not ripping you...but gotdam!!!! You're a freaking kid at 20% bf on a gram a week. Bunk or not. You need to learn how to eat and how to train. Bust you ass untill your 30, and then hit a test only cycle.

If you really are on 900 a week, and no pct, you are going to feel like fucking ass warmed over. If you can recover from whatever the fuck you been stuck with.