First time using tren

[Bebeto54]

Hey guys, ive planned to do my first tren cycle in a few weeks, im not sure how to set up this cycle, ive got different answers and tips from everywhere.

Im 26, 225, 6'4, 16%

3cycles b4

5yrs training


This is how my cycle looks atm:

Prop, Tren, Dbol


100mg Tren Ace E/O/D - Week 1-8

85mg Test Prop E/O/D - Week 1-12

60mg Dbol E/D - Week 1-4

250iu HCG x3 weekly - Week 1-13 (start end of week 1

0,5mg Adex EoD (adjusted if needed)

0.25mg Caber E3D



PCT - Weeks 13-17 (19 for nolva)

(2 days after last pin)

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20/20/20

Tips for an adjustment or something more to throw in? Im doing a bulk, fck summer, ima do 500 surplus. But ive read that some ppl throw in a cut in the end, so basically when i drop tren, i add var or winny with the test p. Hmm, im not sure...

 

[Finaplixguy711]

Winny sucks and dries u out.. makes joints hurt.. add 600mg EQ in

 

[franchise24]

If your dbol is good 30-50 is all you should need. First time running tren I'd start off low then increase it based off how your body is reacting to tren.

I'm OCD. So I pin short esters ED.

 

[Test_Subject]

To give you an idea, I'm doing my first tren run in June and I'm doing

20mg superdrol 1-4
200mg a week test C 1-12
400mg a week tren E 1-10

Wish me luck.

 

[Finaplixguy711]

To give you an idea, I'm doing my first tren run in June and I'm doing

20mg superdrol 1-4
200mg a week test C 1-12
400mg a week tren E 1-10

Wish me luck.

@test subject.
Got a question? I usually double my test to Tren ratio.. noticed u reversed it.. what are your thoughts or ideas.. I run more test and less Tren.. but ur doing opposite..

 

[Test_Subject]

@test subject.
Got a question? I usually double my test to Tren ratio.. noticed u reversed it.. what are your thoughts or ideas.. I run more test and less Tren.. but ur doing opposite..

I can't really say my friend. I've had friends in real life and online friends say that they've had less sides when running a TRT dose of test with a higher dose of tren. That's essentially my reasoning for doing so.

Whether that's right or not I guess I'll find out for myself. I'm a tren newbie, so I'll let you know how it goes.

Superdrol, however, I know that I react to very well. I hit PRs every week when I take it.

 

[hurricane]

I can't really say my friend. I've had friends in real life and online friends say that they've had less sides when running a TRT dose of test with a higher dose of tren. That's essentially my reasoning for doing so.

Whether that's right or not I guess I'll find out for myself. I'm a tren newbie, so I'll let you know how it goes.

Superdrol, however, I know that I react to very well. I hit PRs every week when I take it.

Its great that way bro. I used to run 350mg tren ace and 300mg prop per week. Not sure why op is running prop 12 weeks. Fukin ouch!

 

[Test_Subject]

Its great that way bro. I used to run 350mg tren ace and 300mg prop per week. Not sure why op is running prop 12 weeks. Fukin ouch!

No doubt. If you're running test for 12 weeks, why not use E or C? Take advantage of the long ester.

 

[hurricane]

No doubt. If you're running test for 12 weeks, why not use E or C? Take advantage of the long ester.

Exactly. Hey op switch your test choice like myself and @Test_Subject said.

 

[Finaplixguy711]

@test subject.
Got a question? I usually double my test to Tren ratio.. noticed u reversed it.. what are your thoughts or ideas.. I run more test and less Tren.. but ur doing opposite..

I have run alot of cycles.. but I'm old school and really appreciate new school views..

 

[Finaplixguy711]

I always doubled test to Tren.. now it seems old school.. most guys run more Tren to test.. I may have to try this..lol

 

[Test_Subject]

I always doubled test to Tren.. now it seems old school.. most guys run more Tren to test.. I may have to try this..lol

I'm a complete tren noob, so I know fuck all about tren cycles. However, I do know a fair amount of juicers. Almost all of them have said to take as much tren as you can handle, and as much test as you need.

I'm paraphrasing, but essentially they say a small dose of test so you don't feel like ass with a dose of tren that will knock your socks off.

 

[Matty19D]

No doubt. If you're running test for 12 weeks, why not use E or C? Take advantage of the long ester.

Exactly. Hey op switch your test choice like myself and @Test_Subject said.

IF his plan was to use prop because he wanted things to kick off a little quicker than with Enan or Cyp, couldn't he run prop AND Enan/cyp right out of the gate and then drop the prop after about week 5 and let Enan/cyp take over? He may not be interested in this at all but for curiosity and learning sake for myself I'm interested. You guys both recently posted in my thread about making the switch from Enan to Prop at the END of my cycle, have you tried prop and Enan at the beginning? Or is it just too complicated with no real benefit?

 

[Test_Subject]

couldn't he run prop AND Enan/cyp right out of the gate and then drop the prop after about week 5 and let Enan/cyp take over? He may not be interested in this at all but for curiosity and learning sake for myself I'm interested. You guys both recently posted in my thread about making the switch from Enan to Prop at the END of my cycle, have you tried prop and Enan at the beginning? Or is it just too complicated with no real benefit?

I've kickstarted with test ace and I love it. Prop and ace are so similar that it's irrelevant, but my source has both for the same price so I go for the minute amount more of test.

But, test prop/ace don't give you the same strength that superdrol, anadrol, dbol, halo do. It helps kick your cycle in, but if your liver is in good order, I like an oral more (just me).

If you have a good source, try superdrol once. Get some salmon oil, drink a ton of water and try 20mg for four weeks at the start of your cycle. The stuff is crazy.

If your cholesterol is bad, don't touch it.

 

[Flaming Dragon]

To give you an idea, I'm doing my first tren run in June and I'm doing

20mg superdrol 1-4
200mg a week test C 1-12
400mg a week tren E 1-10

Wish me luck.

You should run Tren E along with Test C to 1-12.

 

[Flaming Dragon]

@test subject.
Got a question? I usually double my test to Tren ratio.. noticed u reversed it.. what are your thoughts or ideas.. I run more test and less Tren.. but ur doing opposite..

I always doubled test to Tren.. now it seems old school.. most guys run more Tren to test.. I may have to try this..lol

Both Test and Tren fights for the same receptor.. If Test is 100/100 and Tren is 500/500.. Which one would you like to have more of the receptors? Yeap, Tren- this way you're getting the full benefits and using Test just to keep your pecker and libido up. But it really depends on your overall goals- bulking (which can be done w/tren) means more Test to Tren. Cutting- higher Tren and lower test.

Many including myself notice that running Test lower then Tren help keeps the sides down (you will experience them- but not as bad!).

 

[test>tren]

if your dbol is good, 30-40mg would really be a better option than 60mg.

Your tren dosage seems acceptable for a first run, I personally however would start lower and work higher depending on how my body reacts.

higher dosages of hcg for extended periods of time actually desensitize your body to its own LH. I would suggest 250iu twice a week as opposed to three

I would start caber the day before cycle. Also be ready to up the dose if you begin to experience prolactin symptoms as they are gnarly, personally causes me horrifying depression if I let it get out of hand.

And honestly on tren, you can probably get away with eating more than 500 surplus lean bulking

This is all my $.02, best of luck

 

[Bebeto54]

Winny sucks and dries u out.. makes joints hurt.. add 600mg EQ in

Allright, 600mg eq on the whole 12 weeks? Or from week 8-12 with prop, and should I cut if I do this? And whats the reason for eq?

 

[Bebeto54]

if your dbol is good, 30-40mg would really be a better option than 60mg.

Your tren dosage seems acceptable for a first run, I personally however would start lower and work higher depending on how my body reacts.

higher dosages of hcg for extended periods of time actually desensitize your body to its own LH. I would suggest 250iu twice a week as opposed to three

I would start caber the day before cycle. Also be ready to up the dose if you begin to experience prolactin symptoms as they are gnarly, personally causes me horrifying depression if I let it get out of hand.

And honestly on tren, you can probably get away with eating more than 500 surplus lean bulking

This is all my $.02, best of luck

Great answer man, really affects my cycle. Whats ur opinion on doing tren 8 weeks, with prop and dbol, and then when i drop tren, do a mini cut for 4 weeks with prop and something else. One thing i know is that u shouldnt cut during pct, u rather want to bulk, so im not really sure, would need some advice to make up my mind

 

[Finaplixguy711]

Eq is smooth.. run whole cycle