For the regular Meso members

[dealer]

I think it's shady.. I posted about this yesterday.. Quid pro quo..

The member receiving the perks consciously or subconsciously feels they in turn owe something to the source..

IMO if someone gets freebies it should be posted and their feedback should be taken with a grain of salt, like MikeOx said last night..

This is called reciprocity. It's a sales training technique.

See definition:

The Law of Reciprocity means to give and take mutually, to return in kind or even in another kind or degree. The law of reciprocity simply means that when someone gives something, you feel an obligation to give back.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

This is called reciprocity. It's a sales training technique.

See definition:

The Law of Reciprocity means to give and take mutually, to return in kind or even in another kind or degree. The law of reciprocity simply means that when someone gives something, you feel an obligation to give back.

Yes!! This is the word I've been looking for.. Reciprocity applies here better than quid pro quo..

THAT is the word I was looking for, thanks..

 

[conquistador]

i think the only thing i dont like about meso is the fact anyone can pop out of nowhere claiming to sell good gear, like that stp asshole, people actually lost money on that guy, its just sad. at the end of the day freedom is freedom, chances are steroid underground will remain the way it is.

i like meso but i can get drugs outside of meso, if sources werent allowed to offer anything or shill on steroid undeground it would be good.

as for the guys, i see so many people paranoid about others using multiple handles and what not, its crazy. generally over time you can develop a form of "online camaraderie" with the more experience users, some of the new guys are really really nice, maybe not me, but smiles, johnnyballz etc a lot of people that joined 2013

i dont know, overall, i like the board and most people in it as shady as they may come, were just human beings and you can always find something funny here and there.

i like you guys (no homo), but i hate world pharma.

 

[Bucky]

Millard: I don't want to speak for "Bucky". But what I got out of his analogy... Meso forum is the guys house, and the ugl's are the freinds that have a garage sale everyday. In other words, and I too have questioned this: Why do you let labs come on here & make thousands of dollars, without any compensation? I have actually questioned whether or not this is 100% true. I have since "googled" who you are, and I have found out that you are far more legitimate(wrong word?) then just some gear head that started his own forum. But the question still remains. And again I'm speaking ONLY for myself. I can see how guys would question whether or not there is some sort of compensation "behind the scenes". Which you would certainly have every right to do. Just an observation.

Bucky: if that's not what you meant, then I misunderstood. My apologies.

Spot on. I couldn't help but wonder how certain labs rise to the top and others get chased out by the meso gestapo. Money under the table? I understand there are legitimate sponsors, but hey the money's still green and there is a lot of it in the UG. If it was my forum, I would want a piece of that pie too.

It would not be hard for a source to be blackballed off the forum or given the green light for a little compensation. All it takes is a few members or even one who hold weight to give it the "gtg" or have a few guys come out of the woodwork claiming the lab has "under dosed gear", "shorting on orals or under filled vials" etc. I'm sure 99% of us don't even know who's involved behind the scenes, so we are left to ponder. Like I mentioned in another post, guys, do not take the UG section for face value.

 

[JackC4]

^^^^ For example Herc. That whole thing stunk.

 

[Spyder]

i think the only thing i dont like about meso is the fact anyone can pop out of nowhere claiming to sell good gear, like that stp asshole, people actually lost money on that guy, its just sad. at the end of the day freedom is freedom, chances are steroid underground will remain the way it is.

i like meso but i can get drugs outside of meso, if sources werent allowed to offer anything or shill on steroid undeground it would be good.

as for the guys, i see so many people paranoid about others using multiple handles and what not, its crazy. generally over time you can develop a form of "online camaraderie" with the more experience users, some of the new guys are really really nice, maybe not me, but smiles, johnnyballz etc a lot of people that joined 2013

i dont know, overall, i like the board and most people in it as shady as they may come, were just human beings and you can always find something funny here and there.

i like you guys (no homo), but i hate world pharma.

One example that was not allowed to scam anyone (to my knowledge) was EL and world pharma (just off the top of my head I am sure there're more). There are a bunch good guys on here looking out for each and the double handles are fairly easy to pick out - at least members like gear who just want to fuck around with people. The members with double handles that piss me off are the ones that are cheerleaders for UGLs.
I can understand why some people do have 2nd handles considering that UGLs have some type of info on them. My 2cents.

 

[JackC4]

Gearusing/tiller/ EL/007/ whoeverthefuck, was tipped off ahead of time by a well known vet on the boards before he could ever gain a foot hold. And still some used him ?

 

[dealer]

One example that was not allowed to scam anyone (to my knowledge) was EL and world pharma (just off the top of my head I am sure there're more). There are a bunch good guys on here looking out for each and the double handles are fairly easy to pick out - at least members like gear who just want to fuck around with people. The members with double handles that piss me off are the ones that are cheerleaders for UGLs.

I can understand why some people do have 2nd handles considering that UGLs have some type of info on them. My 2cents.

People should have an ordering handle. That's the handle you order with sources. It should have 0 posts.

Dealer, for example, is my say what I want handle. Say source A gives me an infection. Dealer will post and wreck the source but source can't identify my address and send me a hot pack or post my address on Google.

 

[JackC4]

STP was a scum bag, his ref was a documented scammer who had issues with the owner of this very board.

He ran dirt cheap deals, got vouched for and sold absolute shit.

The dirt cheap deals and freebies sound great, but in the long run it does more harm than good. I took freebies from Naps so I don't wanna sound like a hater. But it's just to easy for guys to set up shop throw around a few free cycles and rake in the cash before they leave in the night

 

[conquistador]

STP was a scum bag, his ref was a documented scammer who had issues with the owner of this very board.

He ran dirt cheap deals, got vouched for and sold absolute shit.

The dirt cheap deals and freebies sound great, but in the long run it does more harm than good. I took freebies from Naps so I don't wanna sound like a hater. But it's just to easy for guys to set up shop throw around a few free cycles and rake in the cash before they leave in the night

i still havent pin my free geneza [)] im still puzzled they sold that test cyp at 25 bucks and thats most of what i got, i saw a blood test showing a recent batch of geneza test cyp being underdosed, or whats the same impure...you think they mightve given away a bad batch of gear? conspiracies conspiracies

 

[Spyder]

Gearusing/tiller/ EL/007/ whoeverthefuck, was tipped off ahead of time by a well known vet on the boards before he could ever gain a foot hold. And still some used him ?

As far as I know no one has. He tried to pretend with 007, etc that orders went through but no legit orders happened.

 

[Spyder]

i still havent pin my free geneza [)] im still puzzled they sold that test cyp at 25 bucks and thats most of what i got, i saw a blood test showing a recent batch of geneza test cyp being underdosed, or whats the same impure...you think they mightve given away a bad batch of gear? conspiracies conspiracies

Yea my free geneza i am thinking of tossing after the labmax tests.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

As far as I know no one has. He tried to pretend with 007, etc that orders went through but no legit orders happened.

Greenthumb did, I'm sure there were a couple others early on.. I can't imagine anyone reading that thread and ordering now though..

The only ones posting about buying in the past month or so are gear's other handles.. He's a complete tool though and easy to pick out... If someone has half a brain I'm sure it'd be hard to spot multiple handles..

 

[JackC4]

Conquistador- I don't think they intentionally gave out bad/ under dosed gear. That would be a terrible business practice, and naps is not a fly by night operation

 

[noah_k]

For what it's worth, naps offered to resend the free package after mine got seized and I haven't given them a cent, now or before. I'm not saying anything on its legitimacy, but that was certainly not necessary of them.

 

[conquistador]

Yea my free geneza i am thinking of tossing after the labmax tests.

which one you got, spyder? mine was all test cyp and a single tren e. its really hard to get over the fact they upped thebprice on their test cyp all of a sudden...

 

[Raider72]

I would like to know what is the deal with naps test?? I'm pinning their Test E & not sure. I'm pinning Deca for the first time with it.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

For what it's worth, naps offered to resend the free package after mine got seized and I haven't given them a cent, now or before. I'm not saying anything on its legitimacy, but that was certainly not necessary of them.

When I placed my order for the $500 promo there was a couple week delay, so Naps ended up shipping $1,000 in free products to make up for the delay.

200iu of Hyges got seized and he insisted that he ship out ANOTHER $500 order, which he did. It wasn't even seized per say, it had simply been sitting idle in customs for a couple weeks. I never actually received a seizure letter so I assume someone just pocketed it.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

When I placed my order for the $500 promo there was a couple week delay, so Naps ended up shipping $1,000 in free products to make up for the delay.

200iu of Hyges got seized and he insisted that he ship out ANOTHER $500 order, which he did. It wasn't even seized per say, it had simply been sitting idle in customs for a couple weeks. I never actually received a seizure letter so I assume someone just pocketed it.

So you ended up with $1500? Nice order.

Did you use the same name/address for the reship?

 

[Mike Oxbig]

So you ended up with $1500? Nice order.

Did you use the same name/address for the reship?

Roughly $1,500 shipped by Naps with $1,000 of it landing.

The seized order was shipped to my PO Box and I had the reship sent to my home address. I'm not sure if I buy the "address flagging" issue but I didn't see much point in risking it. Luckily the 6 month lease on my PO box was a couple weeks from expiring so forfeiting the address wasn't an issue.