For those permanently prescribed TRT, how do you come off of a blast?

[RoidmeDangerfield]

Hello, all.

To get right to it, I was diagnosed with hypogonadism and that's why I'm on hormone replacement therapy. I've been on it for ten years and I just turned fifty. Over the years I got my doctor to prescribe me 200mg a week. I am very interested in doing a cycle and wanted to know how does one do post cycle therapy or is it not even worth bothering with? My doctor won't prescribe me HCG or Clomid so I have to find that on my own. But given that I have been diagnosed with hypogonadism I'll always have to be on some type of testosterone to have normal blood levels.

So I guess my questions is; how do those of you who need to be on TRT indefinitely come off of a blast and hold onto your gains? I'm left wondering if doing a cycle is really worth it if I'm going to pretty much lose it all. Given that I'm fifty, I can't see myself being on a lot of gear year round. I wish I could but I don't want my health to suffer.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Continue to train hard and eat appropriately. There’s absolutely no reason you should lose a substantial amount, nevermind all of it.

 

[Ryu82]

Continue to train hard and eat appropriately. There’s absolutely no reason you should lose a substantial amount, nevermind all of it.

This.

Your on 200mg a week of TRT, the only thing you will lose (depending on what you are blasting with) is either water/fluff or the cosmetic effects of some compounds.

Don's stress about it and dont let it play mind games with you.

 

[RoidmeDangerfield]

Thanks, guys. I'm not stressing over it. Just wondering if adding other things would be worth it if they're just going to fade away to soon. I have some unused tren enanthate I'd like to try. I used tren acetate when I was in my thirties and loved it. But I'm thinking I'm too old for it now. I'm really curious to try. My guess is most of you would try and dissuade me from using it due to my age. But I will say that I am in excellent shape and am currently 210lb with abs and am pretty lean. Let's just say I can keep up with a lot of men in most any gym half my age.

This last part would probably be best for another thread but also wanted to try some anavar or winstrol. But given that people here seem to recommend only a six week run I'm kinda thinking what's the point? If I ran something like anavar I'd like to run it of ran entire summer (three months). I used to run cycles that were twelve to sixteen weeks in duration years ago. But I've never tried winny or anavar.

 

[Ryu82]

Im in the same age boat as you, I do however find a lower dose of tren with a higher dose of masteron (I dont have hair, so...) mixed with my TRT dose of test does wonders and I feel great on it. 200mg test, 200-300mg tren, 400-600mg mast as an example. Given your body fat you should look pretty wild on that after a few weeks. Just my pennies though. Just make sure you take your health supps (kidney, liver, heart, prostate)

Var over winny if you do decide to go the oral route. Spare your joints.

 

[RoidmeDangerfield]

Wow, that's some great info. Thanks! How long do you run that cycle for? I went bald a while ago so I just buzz my head. I don't care about that. Interestingly, I think taking creatine was what started my balding back in my early forties.

Also, what supplements do you think work well for kidneys, liver, heart and prostate? I need to look into all that, as well.

 

[Ryu82]

I would run that for 12-16 weeks, again, just me.

My health stack is pretty large and I buy everything separate, but you can also find stacks from companies like Revive and Morphogen for each. Revive is great but money.

My stack for giggles: not taken all at once.

1000mg curcumin, 3000mg astragalus, 1000mg NAC, 10mg cialis, 1500mg berberine, K2/D3, 200mg Q10, 1000mg IP6, 200mg grape seed extract, 200mg magnesium chelate, 3000mg fish oil, 1000mg VC, 400IU VE, Psyllium and a couple tbsp of cinnamon mixed into things. 1TBS ACV with half a lemon in water before breakfast.

Also some other things like a multi, extra calcium, etc. I would like to add 1000mg of citrus bergamot at some point as well.

 

[RoidmeDangerfield]

I would run that for 12-16 weeks, again, just me.

My health stack is pretty large and I buy everything separate, but you can also find stacks from companies like Revive and Morphogen for each. Revive is great but money.

My stack for giggles: not taken all at once.

1000mg curcumin, 3000mg astragalus, 1000mg NAC, 10mg cialis, 1500mg berberine, K2/D3, 200mg Q10, 1000mg IP6, 200mg grape seed extract, 200mg magnesium chelate, 3000mg fish oil, 1000mg VC, 400IU VE, Psyllium and a couple tbsp of cinnamon mixed into things. 1TBS ACV with half a lemon in water before breakfast.

Also some other things like a multi, extra calcium, etc. I would like to add 1000mg of citrus bergamot at some point as well.

Nice. Some of those things I take already. Do you take the cialis daily as a way to vasodilate blood vessels to keep blood pressure down? That's one thing I know I will have to be concerned about. I'm already pre-hypertensive so I am going to watch over that like a hawk.

 

[Ryu82]

Do you take the cialis daily as a way to vasodilate blood vessels to keep blood pressure down?

Yip. As well as the great gym pumps and wood.

 

[M@NU]

200mg a week is a huge dosage and you wont lose any gains at all.
Most people are way too afraid of coming of because they expect instant muscle loss but this is bullshit.
I am on gel trt only (so much worse than 200mg inj) and ive barely trained the last 10 weeks due to serious heart issues and yeah, i lost some muscle tissue, but most of weight loss is fullness due to glycogen and water loss

 

[hightest]

Not a big fan of him, but look at what kind of physique Greg Doucette maintains on like 100 mg of Test

 

[Biggerarms22]

Continue to train hard and eat appropriately. There’s absolutely no reason you should lose a substantial amount, nevermind all of it.

Especially at his 200MG prescribed dose of pharma TRT lmao

Not a big fan of him, but look at what kind of physique Greg Doucette maintains on like 100 mg of Test

Greg goes with 140MG test.

200mg a week is a huge dosage and you wont lose any gains at all.
Most people are way too afraid of coming of because they expect instant muscle loss but this is bullshit.
I am on gel trt only (so much worse than 200mg inj) and ive barely trained the last 10 weeks due to serious heart issues and yeah, i lost some muscle tissue, but most of weight loss is fullness due to glycogen and water loss

That dnp cause any of the heart issues you think?

 

[M@NU]

Especially at his 200MG prescribed dose of pharma TRT lmao

Greg goes with 140MG test.

That dnp cause any of the heart issues you think?

Nah, i didnt take any DNP since beginning of 2020.
I assume it was the crappy citropin HGH that aggreviated/attacked my heart

 

[Connor 25257]

Hi. I’m half of your age and I managed to get on TRT quite easily *America gives trt to just about anyone* the main reason I was able to get on it is because I admittedly have ABUSED AAS in the past, like an idiot and my levels of course looked very low when I came off. A vein reason, but I stopped cycling because of my hair, and a lot of women aren’t too attracted by a bodybuilder physique. Bald, high BP and holding a lot more muscle isn’t attractive to a lot of women. Especially the ones in my age range. Nonetheless, I am a bit smaller but leaner, but I don’t think I’ve lost a ton of muscle. Think of guys like Derek from more plates more dates and Greg Doucette; they maintain their physiques on like, 150 mg of test per week. Both of them are probably a lot bigger than the both of us, so that goes to show that as long as you’re eating right and training consistently; you’ll at least be able to maintain what you have plus, you’ll never have to worry about a “dip” in your test levels *assuming you micro dose every day or every other day* you’ll always have an upper hand in that department. Trt certainly is a great thing. If you wanted to do a cycle, go for it. What you gain should be keepable with your current dosage, maybe even 50mg less. That’s all assuming you’re training and diet are good! One cycle I know a lot of trt guys do is up the Test to 500 *ugl along with your TRT dose* EQ or NPP and an oral like Dbol!

 

[juicebro]

You are asking if you need to PCT with hcg or clomid while blasting and cruising? You don't.... That is the whole point.

Hi. I’m half of your age and I managed to get on TRT quite easily *America gives trt to just about anyone* the main reason I was able to get on it is because I admittedly have ABUSED AAS in the past, like an idiot and my levels of course looked very low when I came off. A vein reason, but I stopped cycling because of my hair, and a lot of women aren’t too attracted by a bodybuilder physique. Bald, high BP and holding a lot more muscle isn’t attractive to a lot of women. Especially the ones in my age range. Nonetheless, I am a bit smaller but leaner, but I don’t think I’ve lost a ton of muscle. Think of guys like Derek from more plates more dates and Greg Doucette; they maintain their physiques on like, 150 mg of test per week. Both of them are probably a lot bigger than the both of us, so that goes to show that as long as you’re eating right and training consistently; you’ll at least be able to maintain what you have plus, you’ll never have to worry about a “dip” in your test levels *assuming you micro dose every day or every other day* you’ll always have an upper hand in that department. Trt certainly is a great thing. If you wanted to do a cycle, go for it. What you gain should be keepable with your current dosage, maybe even 50mg less. That’s all assuming you’re training and diet are good! One cycle I know a lot of trt guys do is up the Test to 500 *ugl along with your TRT dose* EQ or NPP and an oral like Dbol!

You need to realise many of the social media people claim to only use TRT because they have tons of people following them... Young people. Even that guy Joey Aesthetics or whatever says he only uses trt while clearly he is probably on something else as well. I get why the lie.

 

[Hughinn]

Thanks, guys. I'm not stressing over it. Just wondering if adding other things would be worth it if they're just going to fade away to soon. I have some unused tren enanthate I'd like to try. I used tren acetate when I was in my thirties and loved it. But I'm thinking I'm too old for it now. I'm really curious to try. My guess is most of you would try and dissuade me from using it due to my age. But I will say that I am in excellent shape and am currently 210lb with abs and am pretty lean. Let's just say I can keep up with a lot of men in most any gym half my age.

This last part would probably be best for another thread but also wanted to try some anavar or winstrol. But given that people here seem to recommend only a six week run I'm kinda thinking what's the point? If I ran something like anavar I'd like to run it of ran entire summer (three months). I used to run cycles that were twelve to sixteen weeks in duration years ago. But I've never tried winny or anavar.

In my opinion NPP works the best for a blast for guys on trt.

Less sides than TREN. Good vascularity and fullness without alot of water bloat.

No pct necessary, simply continue trt at 200 and no worries.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Im in the same age boat as you, I do however find a lower dose of tren with a higher dose of masteron (I dont have hair, so...) mixed with my TRT dose of test does wonders and I feel great on it. 200mg test, 200-300mg tren, 400-600mg mast as an example. Given your body fat you should look pretty wild on that after a few weeks. Just my pennies though. Just make sure you take your health supps (kidney, liver, heart, prostate)

Var over winny if you do decide to go the oral route. Spare your joints.

This is my exact cycle right now...almost with the exact dosages. Love it. Wish I could do it forever.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

I come off the blast by not sticking any extra needles in my ass anymore and just keeping lifting and eating lol.

I don't know it it helps or not but I never stop taking my 125mg test cypionate TRt dose during my blasts. It makes me feel confident that when the excess hormone works it's way out my normal dose is there in the backround waiting to immediately resume its duties as normal.

 

[NLM36]

I do trt+ lol. I never run high doses of anything but my cruise will be something like 200 primo/200 test or 100dhb/2-300 test, maybe 200 mast/200 test. I never drop down to trt doses honestly.
my blasts are pretty much always under 1 gram total. Of course my goal is never to just maintain

 

[playforfun]

I do trt+ lol. I never run high doses of anything but my cruise will be something like 200 primo/200 test or 100dhb/2-300 test, maybe 200 mast/200 test. I never drop down to trt doses honestly.
my blasts are pretty much always under 1 gram total. Of course my goal is never to just maintain

How has primo impacted your trt dosages? Do you feel better? I plan to stack on 150mg of primo to my 150mg test.

How long have you been doing this for? Just wondering longevity wise if I should be worried about taking 300mg of AAS every week forever, was bloods that noticeable in difference?

thanks.