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[cvictorg]

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?17373-For-My-Guys-on-IM-TRT

Dr. John Crisler

For My Guys on IM TRT

Following a recent conversation with Dr. Eugene Shippen, I am going to begin working with a new (well, new to me LOL) injectable compound. Dr. Shippen has asked for my evaluation of its efficacy, following clinical application.

From Dr. Shippen's email this morning:

Tritest is testosterone propionate 50mg/cc, enanthate 100mg/cc, cypionate 100mg/cc. Should give a nice spike in lower doses split twice weekly (ie 0.25cc 2 x weekly plus or minus so there is less total to build up and get saturation/estrogen, but a nice high spike for activation of ARs. Sounds like an upgrade from the cypionate/enathate esters alone and similar to the UK version


your thoughts - sounds better than Sustanon 250 - I assume this can be compounded

Sustanon 250 is a trade name for an oil-based injectable blend of four esterized testosterone compounds
30 mg testosterone propionate
60 mg testosterone phenylpropionate
60 mg testosterone isocaproate
100 mg testosterone decanoate

 

[CubbieBlue]

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?17373-For-My-Guys-on-IM-TRT

Dr. John Crisler

For My Guys on IM TRT

Following a recent conversation with Dr. Eugene Shippen, I am going to begin working with a new (well, new to me LOL) injectable compound. Dr. Shippen has asked for my evaluation of its efficacy, following clinical application.

From Dr. Shippen's email this morning:

Tritest is testosterone propionate 50mg/cc, enanthate 100mg/cc, cypionate 100mg/cc. Should give a nice spike in lower doses split twice weekly (ie 0.25cc 2 x weekly plus or minus so there is less total to build up and get saturation/estrogen, but a nice high spike for activation of ARs. Sounds like an upgrade from the cypionate/enathate esters alone and similar to the UK version


your thoughts - sounds better than Sustanon 250 - I assume this can be compounded

Sustanon 250 is a trade name for an oil-based injectable blend of four esterized testosterone compounds
30 mg testosterone propionate
60 mg testosterone phenylpropionate
60 mg testosterone isocaproate
100 mg testosterone decanoate

Half life for each drug is ~:
Propionate: 1-2 days
Cyp: 6-7 days
Enth: 5-6 days

I fail to see the point of combining cyp. and ent. here.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

This is but ONE of many reasons this is BUNK. This is all about $$$. [The simplest is above demonstrating their absence of PK/PD knowledge.]

Unapproved Drugs Initiative

In June 2006, the FDA announced a new drug safety initiative to remove unapproved drugs from the market, including a final guidance entitled "Marketed Unapproved Drugs—Compliance Policy Guide (CPG)," outlining its enforcement policies aimed at efficiently and rationally bringing all such drugs into the approval process. The FDA uses a risk-based enforcement program in order to concentrate its resources on those products that pose the highest threat to public health and without imposing undue burdens on consumers, or unnecessarily disrupting the market. For all unapproved drugs, the CPG gives highest enforcement priority to the following:

Drugs with potential safety risks

Drugs that lack evidence of effectiveness

Health fraud drugs

Drugs that present direct challenges to the new drug approval and OTC drug monograph systems

Unapproved new drugs that are also violative of the Act in other ways

Drugs that are reformulated to evade an FDA enforcement action

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/EnforcementActivitiesbyFDA/SelectedEnforcementActionsonUnapprovedDrugs/ucm118990.htm

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/Guidances/UCM070290.pdf

 

[James23]

This is just about as "innovative" as his testosterone powder dissolved in propylene glycol for ORAL administration.

Both of these men are simply guessing. None of them have any "secret" knowledge that is unavailable to the rest of us via PubMed and other resources. John Crisler, D.O. is not an endocrinologist. Neither is Eugene Shippen, M.D.

John Crisler, ex-steroid abuser, opened up his Internet based testosterone mill only a year after he got his medical license. For about the first three years, every patient was a guinea pig. All guesswork.

Eugene Shippen stumbled across the goldmine that is TRT and turned his generic practice into a no-insurance-allowed cash factory nearly overnight. None of his custom treatments are supported by medical literature. He's just a regular flu/headache doctor that struck gold by foregoing the regulations imposed by insurance companies and offering questionable treatment to desperate men.

 

[zkt]

This is just about as "innovative" as his testosterone powder dissolved in propylene glycol for ORAL administration.

Both of these men are simply guessing. None of them have any "secret" knowledge that is unavailable to the rest of us via PubMed and other resources. John Crisler, D.O. is not an endocrinologist. Neither is Eugene Shippen, M.D.

John Crisler, ex-steroid abuser, opened up his Internet based testosterone mill only a year after he got his medical license. For about the first three years, every patient was a guinea pig. All guesswork.

Eugene Shippen stumbled across the goldmine that is TRT and turned his generic practice into a no-insurance-allowed cash factory nearly overnight. None of his custom treatments are supported by medical literature. He's just a regular flu/headache doctor that struck gold by foregoing the regulations imposed by insurance companies and offering questionable treatment to desperate men.

Yea definately helpful post

 

[James23]

Dr. John Crisler, D.O. recently featured a link to this very thread on his Goon Squad Alpha Male Cave Den Sweaty Fun Headquarters a.k.a. (All The Morons/ATM.)

Just a heads up. Prepare to be trolled by some middle-aged creeps and perhaps even the bearded, Orangutan-faced doctor himself.

In the thread on his board, an admin recollects banning a member for being an "a hole." Dr. John Crisler has been banned from over eight message boards for the same reason.

 

[GirlyMan]

Prepare to be trolled by some middle-aged creeps ...

There are no middle-age creeps over there interested in trolling unless it involves a boat, fishing gear and beer, and maybe fish if they're lucky. Nobody's gonna be trolling over here. Just leave it alone.

 

[sako]

Jesus, so many haters. Ridiculous. If anything they were doing was totally fucking unethical or unscientific, don't you think they would have lost their medical licenses?

Think people.

 

[DragonRider]

Jesus, so many haters. Ridiculous. If anything they were doing was totally fucking unethical or unscientific, don't you think they would have lost their medical licenses?

Think people.

Agreed. So many doctors treat patients based on some acceptable range, but find a doctor who is willing to treat the individual or express any interest in treating symptoms that are not traditionally recognized by medicine and that doctor is a low life because he didn't fix me personally.

Twenty years ago men had to live with erectile dysfunction because the medical community believed it was all in our heads, or worse, a normal part of ageing.

So what, no one doctor has all of the answers. But, Thank God some of them are at least looking for the answers and God forbid if he makes any money doing that.
Oh wait, that is how they earn their living by practicing medicine. Shame on them for not doing it for free.

Signed,
Proud to be a middle aged creep

 

[James23]

Jesus, so many haters. Ridiculous. If anything they were doing was totally fucking unethical or unscientific, don't you think they would have lost their medical licenses?

Think people.

Dr. Crisler DID almost lose his medical license. Some celebrity guy on the news that ran some sort of cult was busted with boxes of HGH, hCG, T-Cyp, etc. Guess who the prescribing physician was? Dr. John Crisler.

 

[Handle2]

James, do you regret your decision to go on TRT in the first place?