Ultimate Test Acetate thread

[29trt]

Considering no one knows when their real peak is of any test and if trying to emulate the natural rhythm as close as possible,
I think it’s pretty important to figure these things out. All I know for sure is all test pins peak serum levels occur within 14 hours and these will factor in on those times

• levels/efficiency of esterase enzymes
• SHBG levels
• serum albumin levels
• subq vs IM injection
• bodyfat %
• type of carrier oil
• concentration of other steroids in the blood

exactly there are allot of variables. no way to guess or calculate without doing actual blood work multiple times per day.... what is your plan exactly?
you will not feel the peak, especially at higher than normal levels... unless you are using straight test no ester, I did not feel ace at all it was the same as cyp... test is not tren and even tren after a while I did not notice the peak, thr body gets used to it... this is why I am saying the small decline over the day is not going to count with test but I guess genetics play a role here as always

 

[29trt]

to ease Pip try heating the oil before shot and/or mixing with other compound
Also some muscles are more prone to PIp, for me shoulders are the most numb

Exciting times. TestP just arrived.
will be pinning at wake with estimated peak time around 9-10
2-4 hours max
Hoping PIP isn’t terrible
TestAce arrives in 2 week

 

[Benf15harp]

exactly there are allot of variables. no way to guess or calculate without doing actual blood work multiple times per day.... what is your plan exactly?
you will not feel the peak, especially at higher than normal levels... unless you are using straight test no ester, I did not feel ace at all it was the same as cyp... test is not tren and even tren after a while I did not notice the peak, thr body gets used to it... this is why I am saying the small decline over the day is not going to count with test but I guess genetics play a role here as always

Yes, it would take an impossible amount of testing to know for sure. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to attempt it. My primary plan is to see if it affects my sleep the way test C has. 70% of TP should be gone by bedtime if not much sooner unlike testC just going at all times.
I will be varying the daily dose to lessen acclimation. Otherwise, all I can really do is go by feel and adjust. With TC I started am pin and definitely noticed lack of energy in the am but early afternoon was jamming. Switched to pm and made all the difference in am but the drawback was waking up 1-2 hours too early. Luckily with P/A I can do am pins and hopefully get the sleeping back to 100%

 

[Benf15harp]

to ease Pip try heating the oil before shot and/or mixing with other compound
Also some muscles are more prone to PIp, for me shoulders are the most numb

Thanks for this. Will try these tomorrow.

 

[Avarice911]

Thanks for this. Will try these tomorrow.

Running the vial under hot water for 20-30 seconds would suffice. Also helps the draw and injection go a little quicker

 

[29trt]

Yes, it would take an impossible amount of testing to know for sure. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to attempt it. My primary plan is to see if it affects my sleep the way test C has. 70% of TP should be gone by bedtime if not much sooner unlike testC just going at all times.
I will be varying the daily dose to lessen acclimation. Otherwise, all I can really do is go by feel and adjust. With TC I started am pin and definitely noticed lack of energy in the am but early afternoon was jamming. Switched to pm and made all the difference in am but the drawback was waking up 1-2 hours too early. Luckily with P/A I can do am pins and hopefully get the sleeping back to 100%

for sleep it makes sense and can be rather objective to asses the effects but I guess it still depends on the dose and your tolerance.

Some guys can blast 1g, 2g of test and sleep fine others are fked at 500mg
Oh and for sure you get used to it, I remember my first blast with deca i think it was 700mg total and I could barely go to sleep first week but after that it was fine

 

[Benf15harp]

Ok, 1st injection 6:30am left delt test P complete
Went small dose due to being at steady TC levels
Will increase dose 5mg every 3 days as TC drops

 

[Benf15harp]

Zero pip!
Definitely felt a more noticeable bounce during training session than with test C.
Next test: will I be able to take my usual nap? Lol

 

[jJjburton]

Zero pip!
Definitely felt a more noticeable bounce during training session than with test C.
Next test: will I be able to take my usual nap? Lol

What are stats?

How long you been on trt/cycling?

 

[Benf15harp]

Besides the initial daily spike, Probably won’t be able to judge too much for about 7/10 days as the testC drops off.
Nap was subpar compared to normal. Definitely a bit more energy.
Without TC shot pre-bed, hopefully sleep will improve quickly. TBD.

 

[Benf15harp]

Injection site a bit sore 3/10
Sleep 5/10 5 hours need 6 to 7 for optimal
Pin 6:20am
This TP came at the perfect time to adjust before the test Ace arrives. By then should be pretty much done with TC esters

 

[Benf15harp]

It’s possible tAce could cause too large of a daily drop say 40% compared to 30% from Pop
Possible Remedy: split pins. larger dose 6aM smaller dose 2pm
Pop 2x per day lessens drop to roughly 20% so I figure similar for ace

 

[Benf15harp]

Training intensity 10/10 despite lack of sleep
Different feel than TC
TC feels somewhat elevated but yet even
Prop a bit more fiery

 

[narta]

I like the diary format reporting and attention to detail over things that don't really matter.

 

[jJjburton]

Yea, this seems a bit extreme for pretty basic principles of AAS.

 

[Benf15harp]

1. Nap 2 hours
2. Yes, this is a data-journal for me and potentially helpful for someone else interested switching to short esters.
3. I’m just ignoring everyone that doesn’t have anything constructive to add.
4. I will be doing this until I figure out which protocol works the best

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

doesn’t have anything constructive to add

Just like the point of this thread


Overcomplicating shit

 

[Benf15harp]

This thread is really coming together with the ignore button. Lmao

 

[Benf15harp]

I’ll share: for the majority of my life due to my career in sport I haven’t been able to take any peds and wouldn’t have even if I could have gotten away with it. Just not how I’m wired. Now happily retired for awhile and getting older it’s a brilliant time to see how this really affects performance as I still train as if I’m not retired and practice with the best in the world all the time and also will be fun to see if it turns back the clock a bit.
I took 30mgs of TC daily until it became stable
Have dumped that and now taking 10mgs of TP as the TC esters are still quite high and e3d increase TP by 5mgs until 30mgs daily. When tAce arrives I will switch to that. But 100% sticking to these short esters.
Only other things I’m taking are HGH at 2.5ius post training sessions, bpc157 and a multivitamin.
maximum doses I will take are 250mgs T and plan on getting to 4ius Hgh.

 

[Benf15harp]

Pin 630 am. Very minimal soreness at previous sites. TC pins were worse.
Sleep 5/10. 5 hours. Blaming it on the TC.
Tomorrow upping dose to 15mg TP.