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LGOP528

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I bought a package deal for my blood work and it included FSH. It came back @ 1.7 mIU/mL which is apparently just in range. I am super confused because I thought FSH should be basically 0. My LH was under the detectable range. Here is my dosage.

Test P- 300 mg/week broken up into 7 shots
Anavar- 10-20 mg/day
Hcg- 250 IU/day
Hgh- 1 IU before bed

Shots done at about 5am and then blood was drawn at about 9am. I am going to edit the pdf and post it soon. Thanks.
 
When did you start your cycle? LH and FSH need a couple weeks to go down to undectable amounts/traces.
 
LGOP528 said:
I bought a package deal for my blood work and it included FSH. It came back @ 1.7 mIU/mL which is apparently just in range. I am super confused because I thought FSH should be basically 0. My LH was under the detectable range. Here is my dosage.

Test P- 300 mg/week broken up into 7 shots
Anavar- 10-20 mg/day
Hcg- 250 IU/day
Hgh- 1 IU before bed

Shots done at about 5am and then blood was drawn at about 9am. I am going to edit the pdf and post it soon. Thanks.
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I've no idea on the fsh part, but looking at your lab report; you are not quite healthy mate.

The low-ish ferritin was the first sign, but that can be normal, ... but looking further at also the bottomed out serum iron and the low TSAT; you're heading towards "anemia of chronic disease", caused by inflammation. And sure enough, you also tested hsCRP, and it's also very high (you want that below 1.0). The high proteins in your urine are also of a concern and point out to inflammation, maybe a UTI.

While the high fsh is weird, and idk what happened there, I would Definitely get rid of the aas for now and return to your regular programing trt (switch to pharma test to rule out bad ugl gear causing inflammation) and figure this out before you get seriously unhealthy.
 
*Heading towards iron deficiency. Might be hard to become truly anemic while on aas. But as you can see, even though you're on a cycle, your hematocrit and hemoglobin aren't high at all and not even close too it (they're actually pretty low for being on cycle and even if off cycle a hematocrit of 44 is kinda low for a male). If your test levels were normal, you'd most probably already be anemic (iron deficiency anemia).
 
Jin23 said:
I've no idea on the fsh part, but looking at your lab report; you are not quite healthy mate.

The low-ish ferritin was the first sign, but that can be normal, ... but looking further at also the bottomed out serum iron and the low TSAT; you're heading towards "anemia of chronic disease", caused by inflammation. And sure enough, you also tested hsCRP, and it's also very high (you want that below 1.0). The high proteins in your urine are also of a concern and point out to inflammation, maybe a UTI.

While the high fsh is weird, and idk what happened there, I would Definitely get rid of the aas for now and return to your regular programing trt (switch to pharma test to rule out bad ugl gear causing inflammation) and figure this out before you get seriously unhealthy.
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I appreciate the feed back. I am working on getting the CRP down. In February I had my blood work done and my CRP was at 7. I was on ugl gear at that time and came to the same conclusion about it being the possible culprit. For the last month I have been using my own home brew test P @ 105 mg/ml with 15%BB and 1%BA.

I did notice the iron and added in an iron supplement. I noticed a huge difference in my cardio during yesterdays BJJ training. I train 5-6 times a week and compete. Could the hard training and dehydration cause the low iron and protein in the urine? The protein is new, I have never seen that in any of my blood work. I also have a few injuries I am working through. A bad shoulder and my lower rib separated from the cartilage.

as for the FSH, I am correct that it should be undetectable right? From what I have read, HMG is the only way it would be detected?

I do appreciate the help, I was happy with the blood work for the most part. I will post up February’s blood work and what I was on.
 
LGOP528 said:
I appreciate the feed back. I am working on getting the CRP down. In February I had my blood work done and my CRP was at 7. I was on ugl gear at that time and came to the same conclusion about it being the possible culprit. For the last month I have been using my own home brew test P @ 105 mg/ml with 15%BB and 1%BA.

I did notice the iron and added in an iron supplement. I noticed a huge difference in my cardio during yesterdays BJJ training. I train 5-6 times a week and compete. Could the hard training and dehydration cause the low iron and protein in the urine? The protein is new, I have never seen that in any of my blood work. I also have a few injuries I am working through. A bad shoulder and my lower rib separated from the cartilage.

as for the FSH, I am correct that it should be undetectable right? From what I have read, HMG is the only way it would be detected?

I do appreciate the help, I was happy with the blood work for the most part. I will post up February’s blood work and what I was on.
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You're happy with this blood work?

You're not healthy mate and you shouldn't be cycling until you get yourself back to health. In other words, you are underestimating the severity of your condition and leaving it as is for a prolonged period of time will literally effect all your body: from cardiovascular health, organs, immune system, the brain ... I can't phantom why you wouldn't address the issue and even keep pushing it with anabolics.

You'll begin to see a lot more bad health markers with time, as you leave the issue unresolved. Proteinuria for instance being such an example: prolonged inflammation deteriorating your kidney's and it's function, leading to proteinuria. Just an example, it might or it might not be a cause if it.
 
Jin23 said:
You're happy with this blood work?

You're not healthy mate and you shouldn't be cycling until you get yourself back to health. In other words, you are underestimating the severity of your condition and leaving it as is for a prolonged period of time will literally effect all your body: from cardiovascular health, organs, immune system, the brain ... I can't phantom why you wouldn't address the issue and even keep pushing it with anabolics.

You'll begin to see a lot more bad health markers with time, as you leave the issue unresolved. Proteinuria for instance being such an example: prolonged inflammation deteriorating your kidney's and its function, leading to proteinuria. Just an example, it might or it might not be a cause if it.
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I was just saying that nothing jumped out at me and I appreciate you pointing this out.

When you say drop the aas you mean the anavar and hgh? I am technically on my TRT dose. When I was going through a clinic, 320 of test C got me in the 900 range. I just got my bloodwork 4 hours after my shot of test P.
 
Jin23 said:
What do you mean? Your TT is at 2200 ngdl and free T is at 800 pgml. You're way outside of trt which is around 700ngld and free T being also in range.
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Yes but when they test you it is after a missed shot if you do multiple injections or at the end of a week right before your weekly injection. I got mine tested way sooner than I should have. I just wanted to see how test P changes through out the day. My next blood work I’ll take it in the evening.
 
Here is my lipid panel before I ever did anything other than test through a clinic. I hope I am not coming across as argumentative, I am really trying to give you a better picture and understand.
 

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LGOP528 said:
Yes but when they test you it is after a missed shot if you do multiple injections or at the end of a week right before your weekly injection. I got mine tested way sooner than I should have. I just wanted to see how test P changes through out the day. My next blood work I’ll take it in the evening.
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You are injecting every day, correct? If so, this is basically your median. So it's way too high, 3x too high to be exact.

Regarding testing blood serum testosterone levels when using a longer ester like enanthate or cypionate, the farther you test after the injection the lower the levels will be ofc. But idk why you'd reference this in regards to test levels being 3x over the range? Your test levels shouldn't be over the range, ever. So this point is completely moot, except for some weird and unoptimized scenarios where you pin e or c like only 1x per week. But if you pin e/c 2x per week, your Tmax should be maybe 800 and your through should be like 600 ...
 
Jin23 said:
You are injecting every day, correct? If so, this is basically your median. So it's way too high, 3x too high to be exact.

Regarding testing blood serum testosterone levels when using a longer ester like enanthate or cypionate, the farther you test after the injection the lower the levels will be ofc. But idk why you'd reference this in regards to test levels being 3x over the range? Your test levels shouldn't be over the range, ever. So this point is completely moot, except for some weird and unoptimized scenarios where you pin e or c like only 1x per week. But if you pin e/c 2x per week, your Tmax should be maybe 800 and your through should be like 600 ...
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I do pin every day and I referenced the timing because I thought it was the reason it was so high. 320 test C pining 4 times a week gets me at 800-900. This is my first time using test P. It is also my first home brew but I don’t think it is over dosed because I used very little solvents and had no problem getting it into solution and I have 0 pip.

It took a clinic a year to work me up to 320 to get me into range and I have been there for another year. I also lowered the test P a little to account for the larger amount of test because of the ester.
 
LGOP528 said:
I do pin every day and I referenced the timing because I thought it was the reason it was so high. 320 test C pining 4 times a week gets me at 800-900. This is my first time using test P. It is also my first home brew but I don’t think it is over dosed because I used very little solvents and had no problem getting it into solution and I have 0 pip.

It took a clinic a year to work me up to 320 to get me into range and I have been there for another year. I also lowered the test P a little to account for the larger amount of test because of the ester.
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No, test p is not base. It takes time for it to be absorbed and it's half life is still around 1 day. Your test levels are definitely at cycle levels.
 
Jin23 said:
You are injecting every day, correct? If so, this is basically your median. So it's way too high, 3x too high to be exact.

Regarding testing blood serum testosterone levels when using a longer ester like enanthate or cypionate, the farther you test after the injection the lower the levels will be ofc. But idk why you'd reference this in regards to test levels being 3x over the range? Your test levels shouldn't be over the range, ever. So this point is completely moot, except for some weird and unoptimized scenarios where you pin e or c like only 1x per week. But if you pin e/c 2x per week, your Tmax should be maybe 800 and your through should be like 600 ...
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Jin23 said:
No, test p is not base. It takes time for it to be absorbed and it's half life is still around 1 day. Your test levels are definitely at cycle levels.
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I agree, it is actually why I called it a cycle when I made the post. I made the assumption it was the timing but I think you are right.

Could the hcg be the cause? I did not take that much before. HCG gives me all kinds of sides unless I take it daily. Also this FSH thing is weird, could I be producing natural test?
 
LGOP528 said:
I agree, it is actually why I called it a cycle when I made the post. I made the assumption it was the timing but I think you are right.

Could the hcg be the cause? I did not take that much before. HCG gives me all kinds of sides unless I take it daily. Also this FSH thing is weird, could I be producing natural test?
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I hope.you figure things out mate and that you resolve your health issues! I have no more value to add in regards to the fsh issue so I'll let others comment and leave their remarks on the topic ...
 
Jin23 said:
I hope.you figure things out mate and that you resolve your health issues! I have no more value to add in regards to the fsh issue so I'll let others comment and leave their remarks on the topic ...
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I just thought of something else. I used steroid plotter to try and keep stable levels when I transitioned from test C to test P. I titrated in the test P over a month. Maybe there is still release from test c?

I am going to address the other markers. Thanks for the help.
 
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