Gained weight way too fast on bulk. Switch to recomp?

[BuffMaltese]

Came off a successful cut, under ~15% BF. Plan was maintenance for a bit, then a slow, controlled bulk.

What actually happened:

Upped test, added primo, raised NPP.

350 test / 200 primo / 150 NPP.

Calories went from ~2000/day to probably close to 4000. Stopped tracking a few weeks in because strength and scale weight were flying up and I wasn’t seeing much visible fat gain… until recently.

Now I’m up 17 lbs in about 6 weeks. Literally back to the exact weight I started my last cut at, 175 → 192. I feel uncomfortable. I’ve been stuffing my face even when I’m not hungry. BP slightly up but nothing alarming. Still, I really don’t like the direction this is heading.

Bloods came back with E2 at 21, so that also tells me primo is probably too high relative to test. Either need to lower primo or raise test.

Considering a few options:

1. Pull calories back to true maintenance for a couple weeks and let things settle
2. Drop NPP and see how much water and bloat comes off
3. Adjust test/primo ratio to get E2 up a bit

I had planned to reach ~200 lbs over something like 16–20 weeks, not blast back to my old weight in a month and a half.

Looking for guidance from people who’ve overshot a bulk like this. Feeling a little dumb for letting it get away from me, but trying to course-correct before it turns into a sloppy mess.

 

[bananafeet]

Came off a successful cut, under ~15% BF. Plan was maintenance for a bit, then a slow, controlled bulk.

What actually happened:

Upped test, added primo, raised NPP.

350 test / 200 primo / 150 NPP.

Calories went from ~2000/day to probably close to 4000. Stopped tracking a few weeks in because strength and scale weight were flying up and I wasn’t seeing much visible fat gain… until recently.

Now I’m up 17 lbs in about 6 weeks. Literally back to the exact weight I started my last cut at, 175 → 192. I feel uncomfortable. I’ve been stuffing my face even when I’m not hungry. BP slightly up but nothing alarming. Still, I really don’t like the direction this is heading.

Bloods came back with E2 at 21, so that also tells me primo is probably too high relative to test. Either need to lower primo or raise test.

Considering a few options:

1. Pull calories back to true maintenance for a couple weeks and let things settle
2. Drop NPP and see how much water and bloat comes off
3. Adjust test/primo ratio to get E2 up a bit

I had planned to reach ~200 lbs over something like 16–20 weeks, not blast back to my old weight in a month and a half.

Looking for guidance from people who’ve overshot a bulk like this. Feeling a little dumb for letting it get away from me, but trying to course-correct before it turns into a sloppy mess.

I did the same thing. Take advantage of being full and fat and get your lifts up. Like focus on your compounds getting up. Either for reps or for 3 sets of 5.

Then come off as planned and diet down. I got absolutely ravenous on Mirtazapine, HGH and high dose testosterone.

Happens to everyone. You'll be right. Atleast use the body mass to build some decent strength.

 

[Duraclear]

I think this is probably pretty normal and a lot of people do it. I did it recently, in fact. Had decent abs going into summer, got sick of starving all the time, started eating a lot and looking swole while maintaining definition thinking everything was sweet... woke up in October one day soft and puffy and wearing a size larger to try and hide it. It creeps up on you. Very easy to get carried away.

In my case, I've got to keep body fat low for health reasons, so I've just focused on dropping the flab. I am primarily extending my intermittent fasting from 18/6 everyday to 20/4. Obviously, my scenario is a little different than yours. Dropping the NPP will surely help you drop some water weight, but I think if we're all honest here, you most likely overshot the mark and just need to bite the bullet and get back in a deficit.

 

[pancetta]

Don‘t ever start bulking at 15% BF again. Now get yourself some Reta, throw NPP out and start cutting

 

[Cyp180]

Came off a successful cut, under ~15% BF. Plan was maintenance for a bit, then a slow, controlled bulk.

What actually happened:

Upped test, added primo, raised NPP.

350 test / 200 primo / 150 NPP.

Calories went from ~2000/day to probably close to 4000. Stopped tracking a few weeks in because strength and scale weight were flying up and I wasn’t seeing much visible fat gain… until recently.

Now I’m up 17 lbs in about 6 weeks. Literally back to the exact weight I started my last cut at, 175 → 192. I feel uncomfortable. I’ve been stuffing my face even when I’m not hungry. BP slightly up but nothing alarming. Still, I really don’t like the direction this is heading.

Bloods came back with E2 at 21, so that also tells me primo is probably too high relative to test. Either need to lower primo or raise test.

Considering a few options:

1. Pull calories back to true maintenance for a couple weeks and let things settle
2. Drop NPP and see how much water and bloat comes off
3. Adjust test/primo ratio to get E2 up a bit

I had planned to reach ~200 lbs over something like 16–20 weeks, not blast back to my old weight in a month and a half.

Looking for guidance from people who’ve overshot a bulk like this. Feeling a little dumb for letting it get away from me, but trying to course-correct before it turns into a sloppy mess.

Cut your kcals intake with 1000kcals, do not increase with 2000kcals in bulk. Increase just 200-250. And see in the mirror what is does to you, and increase when your weight not increase. Weigh yourself every day naked by getting out of your bed. Lean gain about 200gr a week and do a mini-cut for six weeks when you get to fat.

 

[Eddie.]

Post some before and after pics if you want, numbers by itself don't mean too much if no actual measurements like dexa for example have been done.

 

[BuffMaltese]

Don‘t ever start bulking at 15% BF again. Now get yourself some Reta, throw NPP out and start cutting

 

[BuffMaltese]

Ate 2,500 calories Thursday and about 3,300 yesterday and dropped some water weight down to 190 lbs. I was considering adding telmisartan, but my BP readings this morning were excellent. I probably just need to stop stuffing myself.

I’ve been taking Reta this whole time, it just doesn’t do much for hunger suppression for me. I was taking 4 mg during my cut, dropped to 1 mg, then started overeating so I bumped it to 2 mg. At some point I accidentally mixed up my HGH and Reta vials and may have taken 4.2, 6.4, or even 8.6 mg of Reta. Got a lot of gas from that, took a week off, and restarted 2 mg today.

 

[pancetta]

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Ok I take my words back if the first picture was after your cut. Unless you store a ton of fat on your lower body that’s closer to 10% than 15% imo so definitely lean enough. My bad I just assumed you are lying about how fat you are like 9/10 people do online. Well anyway you gained too much fat too quickly but I‘m not going to act like this didn’t happen multiple times to me too. You can continue your cycle and don’t need to cut yet but you also should really slow down the rate of weight gain now. I have never really tried recomping so my opinion might not be very valuable in this regard but I think it’s a waste of time unless you’re blasting large doses of gear including Tren but even then it’s worse than normally cutting and bulking