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Anabolic Steroids
Testosterone cypionate vs. enanthate
A common question early transition FTMs and body builders alike have is:
Which is better, testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate?
It’s a bit of a moot question since the two are so similar, and as lots of people say, testosterone is testosterone is testosterone… Both are slow-acting testosterone esters with a release time between 10-14 days. They are considered largely interchangeable.
While there is little difference between the two, some body builders swear that cypionate provides a bit more of a “kick” than enanthate. (Though this seems to contradict some of the information below.) Additionally, it’s said to produce a slightly higher level of water retention than enanthate.
I recently requested a higher concentration prescription of testosterone now that I am injecting 200 mg / two weeks. Having the higher concentration means I can inject less volume.
My prescription has been for testosterone cypionate since the beginning. My local Wal-Mart was not able to get me this in a 200 mg/ml concentration, so I took my prescription to the compounding pharmacy where I ordered my DHT cream. It took two weeks, but they got my new T in today. (The DHT is still not in.) They weren’t able to get cypionate and substituted enanthate instead, the Delatestryl name brand. It came in two 5 ml vials instead of one 10 ml vial.
What’s the difference between cypionate and enanthate?
Cost is another difference that influences people to choose enanthate over cypionate, which tends to be slightly more expensive*. I was paying $35.99 CAD for 10 ml of 100 mg/ml of testosterone cypionate. Today, I paid $60.76 CAD for 10 ml of 200 mg/ml of testosterone enanthate. That works out to just over $10 CAD cheaper, though I don’t know if that’s because it’s enanthate or because it’s the higher concentration (I’ve been told that higher concentration T is usually less expensive.)
- Enanthate is manufactured widely throughout the world, while cypionate is less common outside the USA. Hence, cypionate tends to be more common in the States.
- Enanthate is suspended in sesame oil; cypionate is suspended in cottonseed oil.
- Enanthate has a 7-carbon ester chain while cypionate has an 8-carbon ester chain. The more carbons the ester group has, the more soluble in oil and the less soluble in water it becomes. As a result, cypionate has a slightly slower release and longer active life.
- Due to being one atom lighter, enanthate has more testosterone per mg. The difference is insignificant though, perhaps a few milligrams amount of steroid more.
The thing I got out of this article was it mentioning that test-e is suspended in sesame oil and test-c cottonseed oil. I think most health conscious eaters prefer to avoid cottonseed oil for a few reasons. It's doesn't have the same health benefits of other oils and since cotton's not grown as a food. It has less pesticide restrictions so the oil can contain more of the residues. Even though the seed hulls often go to livestock feed. I'm wondering if there are specific reasons these oils are selected. Cause it doesn't seem like ugls are selecting, or just listing oils accordingly. I'm used to seeing grapeseed or safflower oil with cyp. Does anyone think that it's important to carefully choose the carrier oil according to compound(s) suspended?
It's all good. No offense taken. Don't know who you were gunning for but it ain't me. I just really miss those pharma grade amps. I like amps, they maybe a little more of a pain to use. Probably a lot harder to make, which makes me feel just a bit more comfortable with them. It blows my mind that anyone with the facilities to produce a glass amp with silkscreening or how ever they put the writing on them. Put them in plastic trays and then nice boxes with serial numbers and exp dates done by another type of machine would ever make a fake. I would think putting the powdered hormone in the mix would be the easiest part. I know their have been fake amps around for a while but mainly primo. And they're is almost always ways of telling them apart. Irregular shapes and fill amounts strike me as a red flag. But a fake test-e amp is pitiful. Like I said when I did them the amps just had blue writing on clear glass. I checked an empty one I saved. Don't know if I have the box. But I do keep at least one empty of anything. Some people collect baseball cards, stamps, butterflies, etc. I collect empty bottles, amps and recently just the labels.
