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April 15, 2011 (Orlando, Florida) — A genetic variant might predispose heavy beer drinkers to a higher risk for gastric cancer, according to the results of a new study.

The authors found that the consumption of 60 g of pure ethanol/alcohol carried a 65% increased risk for noncardia gastric cancer. However, they note that this association was largely confined to beer.

Further analysis showed that drinking 30 g of pure ethanol/alcohol or more a day derived from beer was associated with a 75% increased risk for gastric cancer. Notably, variants in the alcohol dehydrogenase gene cluster (ADH1) greatly exacerbated the risk for gastric malignancy.

The study results were presented here at the American Association for Cancer Research 102nd Annual Meeting, and represent the first time that this association of genetic variants, beer drinking, and gastric cancer has been noted in a European population.

Inconsistent Data

Alcohol consumption and the risk for gastric cancer have been evaluated in a number of epidemiologic studies, but the results have been inconsistent. There are a number of reasons for this inconsistency, said lead author Eric Duell, PhD, senior epidemiologist in the Cancer Epidemiology Research Program at the Catalan Institute of Oncology in Barcelona, Spain.

These include wide variations in beverage preferences and consumption patterns across populations, he noted during a press briefing. "Flaws in study design and methodology also might have contributed. There is also known genetic variation in alcohol metabolism within and across populations."

In their large prospective analysis, Dr. Duell and colleagues attempted to newly evaluate the association between alcohol consumption and gastric cancer.

They analyzed data from the European Prospective Investigation Into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC), a prospective cohort of 521,000 adults 35 to 70 years of age who were recruited from 10 European countries from 1992 to 1998. The authors assessed the type and amount of alcohol consumed and associations by tumor location (cardia, noncardia), histology (diffuse, intestinal), and smoking status.

Beer Drinking Raises the Risk

In addition, they evaluated the possible effect of single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNP) in ADH1 and its interactions with alcohol consumption in relation to gastric cancer risk in a case–control study (EurGast) nested in the EPIC cohort. Adjustment variables included age, center/country, sex, education, smoking, Helicobacter pylori infection, total energy, and dietary intake of fruits, vegetables, and red and processed meat.

The authors found that, compared with low ethanol consumption at baseline (0.1 to 4.9 g/day), heavy total consumption of alcoholic beverages (?60 g/day) and beer (?30 g/day) were statistically significantly associated with a higher risk for gastric cancer (total alcohol hazard ratio
, 1.65; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.06 to 2.58; beer HR, 1.75, 95% CI, 1.13 to 2.73).

Consumption of wine and hard liquor was not associated with a risk for gastric cancer risk, Dr. Duell explained.

Strong Role of Genetic Variant

In the EurGast study nested within EPIC, 365 patients with gastric cancer were compared with 1284 control subjects. The authors found that 2 variants in the ADH1 locus were associated with gastric cancer risk.

Two variants in the ADH1 locus — rs283411 and rs1230025 — were statistically significantly associated with an increased risk for gastric cancer (P = .006 and P = .005, respectively). When looking at interactions between ADH1 locus SNPs and baseline alcohol consumption, the authors noted a statistically significant interaction between rs1230025 and beer consumption in relation to gastric cancer risk. People with the variant who were heavy consumers of beer had a relative risk for gastric cancer of 8.72 (P = .003 for trend).

The presence of SNP rs230025 was associated with a 30% increased risk for gastric cancer, said Dr. Duell. "When we looked at these 2 factors together — heavy beer drinking and having 2 copies of the variant — people had more than a 700% increased risk of gastric cancer."

"The results need to be replicated in other populations, as this is the first study to show a relationship between this SNP and gastric cancer risk," he added.

George Kim, MD, who was approached by Medscape Medical News for independent comment, noted that this "is not the first finding of an alcohol metabolic enzyme and some genetic alteration linked to cancer."

"The first studies were reported by Japanese researchers," said Dr. Kim, who is assistant professor of oncology at the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine and director of the gastrointestinal cancer group at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida. "This has been reported in the past. What is more relevant is the population — this is a European population and there are half a million people in the registry."

"It's an interesting finding but more work has to be done," he added.

American Association for Cancer Research (AACR) 102nd Annual Meeting: Abstract 3748. Presented April 4, 2011.
 
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I didnt read the study and arent familiar with the genetic concequences, but beer has to be the worst thing ever perputated upon the public, leading only HFCS cola. Beer has all the negative effects of simple carbs on lipids but also the added benefit of increasing inflammation and all that problems that go with that.
 
I didnt read the study and arent familiar with the genetic concequences, but beer has to be the worst thing ever perputated upon the public, leading only HFCS cola. Beer has all the negative effects of simple carbs on lipids but also the added benefit of increasing inflammation and all that problems that go with that.

But it tastes so damn good!
 
Yes, thanks for the Buzzkill...:D

Actually there are so many variables. I will get into in a sec (being an expert and all).

I am really becomming more and more convinced that STATISTICS is another name for Social Science's favorite WHORE... And she really seems to be a lie'n BITCH...[:o)] If its not wine helping, no now the grapes, oh, now not really,,, now this. You really first must consider the flaws here:

1. Probably and truthfully its just the alcohol. My guess is that beer is high volume, and high exposure "volume wise". Guys tend to fill the gut and keep it there. So it really affects a large area at once.
2. However, I am starting to suspect that the hop variants may play a huge role (and as a home brewer of beer). Hops were originally put in beer as a PRESERVATIVE really. To get those drunk ass Brits some brew whilst away... So go figure. I really wonder if hops are not straining my kidneys, and I believe they do. But there are so many variants. I believe they are even a distant cousin of the opiate family. But really, pick up a nice fresh hop and give it a whiff. It smells like pine sap, or Kind bud, take your pick.. ITs strong. It has to be a factor. HOWEVER, not in the US. Our beers had NO hops till the recent onslaught of "high gravity" beers, or microbrews, where the beer is not pasturized and filtered. When I found out Miller is a Pilsner style beer, you could have fooled me. Really it is if you strip everything out of it and leave a splash. I think the studies are European it said, so corner brewpubs are def brewing feisty stuff and would be apples to oranges for your average US beer drinker.
3. You have to consider the sugar. It comes from malted extract of wheat, barley, etc. So they basically crack em and steep off the sugar. So what kind of herbicide and pesiticde is used on these fields?
4. Your darker beers come from ROASTED grains then extracted. So translated this means BURNED. Burned things usually equate to unhealthy, if not even poisonous transitions I suspect.
5. Consider too that there is supposed to be a massive rejection of wheat in European communities yielding celiac type results on society. Hmm, I dont hear them complaining about the beer.
6. Consider that as fertilizer builds up over time in soil, and degrades to Pulonium 235 ( I think), thats not good in any food.
7. There's the water source, which should be given great scrutiny considering again - VOLUME CONSUMED.

So a good test would be to compare historically Ireland (Cleaner I am guessing), England (dirtier), and US (nothing in it). Much to unfold here. But it sounds to me like the wine industry is feeling a bit threatened by the US Beer surge over the past decade and growing. Go grab a NORTH COAST BREWERY - Old Rasputin Russian Imperial stout and you will find probably the poster child of the bad beers if there is anything to the above. I have cut back but I do love the filthy bastard.:)

Medscape: Medscape Access

April 15, 2011 (Orlando, Florida) — A genetic variant might predispose heavy beer drinkers to a higher risk for gastric cancer, according to the results of a new study.

The authors found that the consumption of 60 g of pure ethanol/alcohol carried a 65% increased risk for noncardia gastric cancer. However, they note that this association was largely confined to beer.

Further analysis showed that drinking 30 g of pure ethanol/alcohol or more a day derived from beer was associated with a 75% increased risk for gastric cancer. Notably, variants in the alcohol dehydrogenase gene cluster (ADH1) greatly exacerbated the risk for gastric malignancy.

The study results were presented here at the American Association for Cancer Research 102nd Annual Meeting, and represent the first time that this association of genetic variants, beer drinking, and gastric cancer has been noted in a European population.

Inconsistent Data

Alcohol consumption and the risk for gastric cancer have been evaluated in a number of epidemiologic studies, but the results have been inconsistent. There are a number of reasons for this inconsistency, said lead author Eric Duell, PhD, senior epidemiologist in the Cancer Epidemiology Research Program at the Catalan Institute of Oncology in Barcelona, Spain.

These include wide variations in beverage preferences and consumption patterns across populations, he noted during a press briefing. "Flaws in study design and methodology also might have contributed. There is also known genetic variation in alcohol metabolism within and across populations."

In their large prospective analysis, Dr. Duell and colleagues attempted to newly evaluate the association between alcohol consumption and gastric cancer.

They analyzed data from the European Prospective Investigation Into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC), a prospective cohort of 521,000 adults 35 to 70 years of age who were recruited from 10 European countries from 1992 to 1998. The authors assessed the type and amount of alcohol consumed and associations by tumor location (cardia, noncardia), histology (diffuse, intestinal), and smoking status.

Beer Drinking Raises the Risk

In addition, they evaluated the possible effect of single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNP) in ADH1 and its interactions with alcohol consumption in relation to gastric cancer risk in a case–control study (EurGast) nested in the EPIC cohort. Adjustment variables included age, center/country, sex, education, smoking, Helicobacter pylori infection, total energy, and dietary intake of fruits, vegetables, and red and processed meat.

The authors found that, compared with low ethanol consumption at baseline (0.1 to 4.9 g/day), heavy total consumption of alcoholic beverages (?60 g/day) and beer (?30 g/day) were statistically significantly associated with a higher risk for gastric cancer (total alcohol hazard ratio
, 1.65; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.06 to 2.58; beer HR, 1.75, 95% CI, 1.13 to 2.73).

Consumption of wine and hard liquor was not associated with a risk for gastric cancer risk, Dr. Duell explained.

Strong Role of Genetic Variant

In the EurGast study nested within EPIC, 365 patients with gastric cancer were compared with 1284 control subjects. The authors found that 2 variants in the ADH1 locus were associated with gastric cancer risk.

Two variants in the ADH1 locus — rs283411 and rs1230025 — were statistically significantly associated with an increased risk for gastric cancer (P = .006 and P = .005, respectively). When looking at interactions between ADH1 locus SNPs and baseline alcohol consumption, the authors noted a statistically significant interaction between rs1230025 and beer consumption in relation to gastric cancer risk. People with the variant who were heavy consumers of beer had a relative risk for gastric cancer of 8.72 (P = .003 for trend).

The presence of SNP rs230025 was associated with a 30% increased risk for gastric cancer, said Dr. Duell. "When we looked at these 2 factors together — heavy beer drinking and having 2 copies of the variant — people had more than a 700% increased risk of gastric cancer."

"The results need to be replicated in other populations, as this is the first study to show a relationship between this SNP and gastric cancer risk," he added.

George Kim, MD, who was approached by Medscape Medical News for independent comment, noted that this "is not the first finding of an alcohol metabolic enzyme and some genetic alteration linked to cancer."

"The first studies were reported by Japanese researchers," said Dr. Kim, who is assistant professor of oncology at the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine and director of the gastrointestinal cancer group at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida. "This has been reported in the past. What is more relevant is the population — this is a European population and there are half a million people in the registry."

"It's an interesting finding but more work has to be done," he added.

American Association for Cancer Research (AACR) 102nd Annual Meeting: Abstract 3748. Presented April 4, 2011.

 
Yes, thanks for the Buzzkill...:D

Actually there are so many variables. I will get into in a sec (being an expert and all).

I am really becomming more and more convinced that STATISTICS is another name for Social Science's favorite WHORE... And she really seems to be a lie'n BITCH...[:o)] If its not wine helping, no now the grapes, oh, now not really,,, now this. You really first must consider the flaws here:

1. Probably and truthfully its just the alcohol. My guess is that beer is high volume, and high exposure "volume wise". Guys tend to fill the gut and keep it there. So it really affects a large area at once.
2. However, I am starting to suspect that the hop variants may play a huge role (and as a home brewer of beer). Hops were originally put in beer as a PRESERVATIVE really. To get those drunk ass Brits some brew whilst away... So go figure. I really wonder if hops are not straining my kidneys, and I believe they do. But there are so many variants. I believe they are even a distant cousin of the opiate family. But really, pick up a nice fresh hop and give it a whiff. It smells like pine sap, or Kind bud, take your pick.. ITs strong. It has to be a factor. HOWEVER, not in the US. Our beers had NO hops till the recent onslaught of "high gravity" beers, or microbrews, where the beer is not pasturized and filtered. When I found out Miller is a Pilsner style beer, you could have fooled me. Really it is if you strip everything out of it and leave a splash. I think the studies are European it said, so corner brewpubs are def brewing feisty stuff and would be apples to oranges for your average US beer drinker.
3. You have to consider the sugar. It comes from malted extract of wheat, barley, etc. So they basically crack em and steep off the sugar. So what kind of herbicide and pesiticde is used on these fields?
4. Your darker beers come from ROASTED grains then extracted. So translated this means BURNED. Burned things usually equate to unhealthy, if not even poisonous transitions I suspect.
5. Consider too that there is supposed to be a massive rejection of wheat in European communities yielding celiac type results on society. Hmm, I dont hear them complaining about the beer.
6. Consider that as fertilizer builds up over time in soil, and degrades to Pulonium 235 ( I think), thats not good in any food.
7. There's the water source, which should be given great scrutiny considering again - VOLUME CONSUMED.

So a good test would be to compare historically Ireland (Cleaner I am guessing), England (dirtier), and US (nothing in it). Much to unfold here. But it sounds to me like the wine industry is feeling a bit threatened by the US Beer surge over the past decade and growing. Go grab a NORTH COAST BREWERY - Old Rasputin Russian Imperial stout and you will find probably the poster child of the bad beers if there is anything to the above. I have cut back but I do love the filthy bastard.:)

" STATISTICS is another name for Social Science's favorite WHORE... And she really seems to be a lie'n BITCH"

I spent a few years earning a degree in statistics. Damn! Wish I`d realzed then that I was just studying to be a pimp. Fuck.
Its not that the math is flawed; its some of the people using it. Kinda like guns dont kill people-people kill peoople. Thats like saying that the scientific method is fucked up because some people design flawed studies.
But on to the chemistry of beer;
ya got two things goin bad here. the simple carbs and the alcohol. the simple carbs lead to increased levels of triglycerides and VLDL and fat deposits inthe liver. Etoh metabolism follows the same pathways as sugar (simple carbs) and has the same results but with the added benefit of increasing inflammation. Its the high TG and VLDL and inflammation that leads to atherosclerosis, type 2 diabetes and a host of other problems that are common today.
I`m not talking on or two a day. Its when you get up to 6-8-12/d that shit goes south.
Been there done that
Cheers !
 
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