Gay Marriage (The True Conservative View)

[Kayz]

Oh my fucking god.. he's serious..

You know what, you talk a lot of shit, but you have yet to say a single intelligent thing. You may disagree with people like Grizz and myself, and that is fine......but tell us why we are wrong and you are right. Don't just run your cocksucker and tell us how bad of people we are.

Try forming a coherent thought that makes a little sense to support your "view". That is all I ask.

 

[Sensational]

Admin...I have never thought of that argument and completely agree. Would there be any legal hangups?

 

[vampirique]

Thank God i am not a black homosexual muslim and gay-marriage activist living in the deep south...

 

[Snanga]

religion

are everybody in the states so religious that it seems? i live in a country there religion is an big issue but we have a priest as a prime minister. Even he dont mention god in his speaces and his governing of the country. id like to visit the states some time. but the religion puts me of. is there any country whitout religion and where everybody is treated equal? and ass long that you dont hurt anybody you could do the things you want without the goverment messing around. build the muscle you want. be free! that country would i move to

 

[Kayz]

are everybody in the states so religious that it seems? i live in a country there religion is an big issue but we have a priest as a prime minister. Even he dont mention god in his speaces and his governing of the country. id like to visit the states some time. but the religion puts me of. is there any country whitout religion and where everybody is treated equal? and ass long that you dont hurt anybody you could do the things you want without the goverment messing around. build the muscle you want. be free! that country would i move to

Where do you live if you don't mind me asking??

 

[Snanga]

Norway

Where do you live if you don't mind me asking??

 

[ImaBldr]

But if the people of a given State want to propose and ratify legislation that dictates & defines legal marital status and its limitations, then they should have the right & ability to do so. For the Federal Government to eliminate that right through Constitutional Amendment would be for it to remove that power from the states and the people.

Besides, aren't there larger more important issues for the goverment to be working on? War? Defecit? Education? Healthcare? Immigration?

 

[Grizzly]

The federal gov't shouldn't be working on education and it sure as fuck shouldn't have a thing to do with health care. Well, maybe education, but definitely not health care.

 

[Skullfucked]

Also, KOMT, in case you werent around for all the latest changes, it is against board policy to make fun of people's sexual orientation. So I would appreciate it if you could not imply that I was bisexual. Thanks.

he could have implied Freaky Freddy and you were and item. Whew!

 

[panabolic]

Good God.. what a bunch of bigots. You are trying to disguise your hate in logic. That's terrible, I hope you feel good about yourselves. Don't you people see? This is the same type of thinking that went on for segregation. God, if you can't see that, then you should cut off your dick so that you can't contaiminate the rest of the world. What a bunch of spoon-feed sheep. Such hatred for the fellow man. Get a life people. You might as well hate handicaped people while you are at it. WE ARE ALL THE SAME CREATURES! OUR HEART'S BEAT FOR THE SAME REASON THEIR'S DOES! Yeah, and I dont give a shit if you flame me, at least I'm not a goddamn homophobe and somehow think I'm better than someone else I don't even know. Oh yeah! Sodom and Gomorrah you said?! Here's a fucking newsflash: CHRISIANITY IS NOT THE ONLY RELIGION! Why would anyone give a fuck what the christian bible has to say about gays if they don't even believe in it?! Open your eyes! Not everyone believes like you! Wow, I know I'm prolly the first person to ever tell you that, but guess what, it's reality. The gov't has no right to tell me how to/should live my life; including putting regulations on my own personal feelings. Another news flash: NOT letting gay ppl get married will NOT MAKE THEM GO AWAY. God.. Flame away sheep!

Deca! To compare this to segregation just shows your ignorance, these matters aren't even close. Speaking of cutting dicks off to prevent the world of future contamination......

Did you ever think for a moment that IF being a homosexual was normal than humanity would have never even existed! Only in a america as fucked as is today could you make a statement like that and expect to be taken seriously, Fuck sakes!! It goes against nature!! Long before human beings even walked the planet. Only in a world fucked up as this with all the pussy liberalists running amuck could they try and make a wrong a right! ONLY in a world so backwards where normal heterosexual ideas are now being pushed to backburner in favor of an obscene lifestyle!!

Call a me a bigot, whatever you want, I don't give a shit but like I said before homosexuality goes against nature.
Religion, maybe you can enlighten me but I am not aware of any religion around the globe that says it's ok for a 'man' (if you call yourself that) to marry with another man!

I don't have a hatred to homosexuals but I do get offended by their obscene lifestyle. If they want to have orgies and suck their own shit off their boyfriends dicks then fine, whatever. Just keep that stuff in the privacy of their own bedrooms and don't ask the public to recognize your 'lifestyle' as they call it. BTW, show me one (1) monogomous gay couple, it's virtually impossible to find as they have the highest infidelity rates among any type of couples.

Unfortunately to the mainstream out there, I see weary times ahead. OverLiberalized minded media/americans just keep pushing this gay theme, WHY?? Who the fuck cares but gays (less then 5% of the population) Can a gay honestly sit there and tell me that 95% of the population honestly likes TV programming with gays themes?? LOL WTF?? We are falling victim to Feminist propaganda with an ulterior motive to 'unsex' the world...yea ok, pan has lost his mind, maybe, I am a bit early but just look at television and all the gay programming, it's disgusting...you NEVER would have seen that as early as 10 years ago, never...the media is pushing the idea that gay is normal and ok...FUCK THAT it's not normal (in case you forgot it's normal for a man and women to marry and procreate) and when you make a statement like that (which is 100% true in science/religion/take your goddam pick!) you immediately receive a backlash from the gay community, they can't accept the plain truth.

In the future, I don't want to have to explain when my child asks why a man is necking with another man on mainstream television or sticking his hand down another mans' pants, the thought of that sickens me. I didn't have to grow up with that Bullshit why should they? It's just not fair to our childeren

 

[jbiggs]

Here's a fucking newsflash: CHRISIANITY IS NOT THE ONLY RELIGION! Why would anyone give a fuck what the christian bible has to say about gays if they don't even believe in it?! Open your eyes! Not everyone /QUOTE]

DECA...No CHRISIANITY IS NOT THE ONLY RELIGION! Please give an example of an established religion that does condone homosexuality.

 

[Grizzly]

Call a me a bigot, whatever you want, I don't give a shit but like I said before homosexuality goes against nature.
Religion, maybe you can enlighten me but I am not aware of any religion around the globe that says it's ok for a 'man' (if you call yourself that) to marry with another man!

How about Ancient Greece or Rome? Ever bothered to read Plato's "symposium". Great story. It's all about how fucking young boys is a good damn time. Ok, maybe not all about, but it's in there. (don't start with me Mark )

You entire argument is wrong. Sorry to tell you, dawg, but homosexuality occurs in nature a plenty. It's well documented in most animal species. From rats to lions to humans. Sorry, your argument sucks major dick.

 

[CyniQ]

You entire argument is wrong. Sorry to tell you, dawg, but homosexuality occurs in nature a plenty. It's well documented in most animal species. From rats to lions to humans. Sorry, your argument sucks major dick.

Sorry to resurrect this one, but I'm bored. Homosexuality does not occur in nature. My dog (male) sniffs other male dogs butts and licks their balls. Does that make him gay? Hard to ask that with a straight face. You can't project human ideals regarding sexuality onto animals. It's preposterous.

I'm not advocating the persecution of homosexuals in any way. I'm absolutely AGAINST a Constitutional Amendment banning samesex marriage. I'm perfectly willing to let the states decide as MK suggested. I will also say that although I do not currently have, I have had in the past a number of gay friends. I've been to gay bars with them. I'm not homophobic in any way.

However. To say that homosexuality is "natural" is beyond ridiculous. Since the begining of history societies of all colors creeds and religions have condemned homosexuality. Ancient Roman examples are useless as homosexuality was not advocated so much as ALL pleasurable pursuits were.

Traditionally, doctors have viewed homosexuality as an illness. It wasn't until 1973 That the American Psych Ass. declared that HS would no longer be considered a psychiatric disorder.

Additionally, there have been a number of books written on the effect that genes have on our behavior regarding addiction, HS, infidelity, etc. By and large what has been determined is that while it is possible to argue that genes influence behavior in a general sense, it is quite another matter to show that a specific gene...or pair of genes, or even a score of genes...actually control specific details of an animals responses to its environment. Does anyone know of a study where anyone found any stretches of DNA that affect specific behaviors predictably?

There are a number of diseases that are actually CAUSED by homosexual acts. Including IIRC bowel lymphoma, Kaposi's sarcoma, among other intestinal difficulties.

So, say what you want about homosexuals or the laws regarding them. No disrespect to any of you who are. I'm not saying for a certainty that homosexuality is a learned behavior. I'm just saying that "NATURAL" it most certainly is not.

 

[Beefy]

(golf clap)

 

[Grizzly]

I read a study(I believe it was on CNN Health) that said they have evidence that queer dudes have the same brain chemistry as chicks and the same applies to dykes.(yes, that was very much on purpose. Someone care to chime in with the "don't use those hateful words" bullshit?)

Gay in that they have a "preference", I don't know. All I know is that I saw a special in which it stated that rats will fuck each other's assholes. Could be a case of get it where you can or maybe they actually like it. You'd have to ask the rats.

 

[CyniQ]

Gay in that they have a "preference", I don't know. All I know is that I saw a special in which it stated that rats will fuck each other's assholes. Could be a case of get it where you can or maybe they actually like it. You'd have to ask the rats.

Rats will (supposedly) also choose sexual gratification over food. Horny little bastards.

The few studies that have shown some sort of evidence that homosexuality is inherited have been inconclusive and somewhat suspect. One showed that the hypothalamus of a "gay" male was significantly smaller than that of a straight male. The hypothalamus is the portion of your brain that is thought to regulate sleep patterns and libido. If this is the case then homosexuality is a brain defect. However it was later revealed that a vast majority of the study "participants" (haha ) had died of AIDS. More recent studies have shown a connection between HIV and shrunken cerebral corteces (sp?).

The antecdotal evidence supporting homosexuality as a learned behavior is overwhelming IMO. How many gay men have you known that had a "normal" childhood? How many that were not abused in any way but had very healthy childhoods? How many lesbians that had not had any sexual experiences with a man? Lesbians that did not at one time consider themselves to be hetero? In order to answer honestly your respondents would have to be over 30 I think. Younger than that and homosexuality has become so mainstream as to be fashionable. This phenomenon could cloud the judgement of your pollees (did I just make that word up??).

 

[Beefy]

Rats will (supposedly) also choose sexual gratification over food. Horny little bastards.

I don't know how to feel when I read that. I really want to eat some Oreos right now. Damn, they're good. I'm on a diet, though. If I could just drop this last 15 pounds I'd be the biggest stud in town. Image all of the females checking out my six pack this summer...I guess I better say "No" to those Oreos, up the cardio, and maybe run a little test/eq to better prepare for the summer "heat"...

 

[CyniQ]

I don't know how to feel when I read that. I really want to eat some Oreos right now. Damn, they're good.

The next line should have read...

But I think I'll masturbate instead.

 

[Beefy]

The next line should have read...

But I think I'll masturbate instead.

Nothin' like a good sandwhich after beating off.

 

[thick]

cant believe i missed this. It shouldnt even be up for debate. Gays should be shipped out of the country to their own little happy fairy island. But I am a bigot like Kayz and Grizz so I know it is wrong to feel that way. I am being serious