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[BIGMESC]

Nitro - I see you just started here as a member, which is cool, we all start some time. But I wonder, are you also newer to ordering gear on line?

By no means am I trying to minimize your situation. And also, by no means am I trying to excuse Getm. But my advice is to ease off the accelerator some and let Dan/David address this. Let some of the Mass Specs roll in. Let some of the more experienced Labmax users run tests.

Dan and David and GetM WILL Be held accountable here. But let it play out over the next few days. I say this for your sake and the sake of your sanity.

I agree bic, this is the first negative press that they have received, let's see how they weather the storm.

There are mass specs being done by members of both donated and anonymous samples.

I know it sucks if you are on cycle or about to start, I am in the same boat and will have to adjust my plans, but I am going to keep a cool head and give it some time.

 

[Colt44]

bump..

Just wanted to point out he's offering to pay for anonymous mass spec testing. It's the correct attitude IMO.

Very true. I hope people are taking advantage of this.

 

[jabrel3]

I just don't see it happening guys, due to the cost of mass spec testing. Personally I would be happy if Dan even offered to pay half of my mass spec cost lol. As for lab max tests I will cover those costs (already have then on hand). Either way I will have both done, but it would sure be nice to see them work with some of us on this.

 

[Ragnar]

Not only products we have sent but also products that trusted customers already have.

I think I misunderstood, if this is the case awesome

Dan, how do we go about getting this done? I just sent your test e off to get mass spec'ed

 

[ebkallday]

So, was there ever an official answers regarding whether the gear is brewed domestically? For what its worth, I ran Getm Tren A around 6 months ago. It was from the international line. It was the most potent Tren I've ran out of 6 Tren A cycles. Since then we have multiple labs with issues with Their Test Prop, and Tren. Ultimately the responsibility is with the source and whether its a powder issue or not, someone needs to catch it before it reaches the end user.These powder sources need to be put on blast. Mother fuckers are cutting corners all the way from the powder manufacturer to the powder distributor to the source/ resellar and that leaves us with overpriced cooking oil.

 

[Nitrobuste]

What do you think will hapen after a negative mass spec ?

Another question: Is it possible that a labmax test is wrong ? If not, why even do MS ?

 

[whodatnation]

With mass spec you're actually testing the purity of compound where lab max just lets you know hormones are present.

 

[Colt44]

So, was there ever an official answers regarding whether the gear is brewed domestically? For what its worth, I ran Getm Tren A around 6 months ago. It was from the international line. It was the most potent Tren I've ran out of 6 Tren A cycles. Since then we have multiple labs with issues with Their Test Prop, and Tren. Ultimately the responsibility is with the source and whether its a powder issue or not, someone needs to catch it before it reaches the end user.These powder sources need to be put on blast. Mother fuckers are cutting corners all the way from the powder manufacturer to the powder distributor to the source/ resellar and that leaves us with overpriced cooking oil.

^^^ https://thinksteroids.com/community/index.php?posts/998646

What do you think will hapen after a negative mass spec ?

Another question: Is it possible that a labmax test is wrong ? If not, why even do MS ?

They will say, "We don't know what happened, we always test every batch." Then they'll blame the powder source and promise to take care of everyone that ordered. Weeks will go by and packs might start landing. History always repeats itself, especially in this business.

There is room for user error in labmax testing but those are clear fails or under dosed gear.

 

[ebkallday]

MS is the ONLY real way of verifying the product not only is legit but the purity. Labmax just detects the presence of the hormone. Labmax is very accurate but has its downsides. Its results are generally never black and white and can be open to interpretation based upon opinion of colors. In my opinion, labmax should only be used as a preliminary test. If there care issues, follow up with MS.

If you have ever taken a pre employment urine analysis, or an on the job random, generally you piss in an insta-cup which will give immediate preliminary results. But even at that, the sample is still sent to the lab for True confirmation of the results.

 

[ebkallday]

All is imported from our lab in Europe.

Thanks Colt!!

 

[Nitrobuste]

With mass spec you're actually testing the purity of compound where lab max just lets you know hormones are present.

So why is everyone complayning about underdosed test after seeing the labmax pics ?

 

[AnabolicMindset]

This is what I was wondering. You have some people saying "the gear is good based off usage", labmax tests being done which show if "the hormone is present" (not necessarily what the gear is dosed at) (btw I didn't know that). So if labmax only shows if the hormone is present why is everyone saying the stuff is underdosed if the tests dont include that sort of information. Secondly Is it possible that some peoples stuff is good and others are bad? Just wondering.

 

[flenser]

This is what I was wondering. You have some people saying "the gear is good based off usage", labmax tests being done which show if "the hormone is present" (not necessarily what the gear is dosed at) (btw I didn't know that). So if labmax only shows if the hormone is present why is everyone saying the stuff is underdosed if the tests dont include that sort of information. Secondly Is it possible that some peoples stuff is good and others are bad? Just wondering.

If the UV color is dim, it usually means the concentration is low. We have pretty good experience with the testosterones and a couple of others to be confident enough to say when it is underdosed. It's a subjective measurement, though, and mass spec should follow.

 

[AnabolicMindset]

If the UV color is dim, it usually means the concentration is low. We have pretty good experience with the testosterones and a couple of others to be confident enough to say when it is underdosed. It's a subjective measurement, though, and mass spec should follow.

Understood. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Gman22]

All that shit when I needed to order gear...lol

 

[WMSuperSport]

yeah it always happens to me too

 

[Eloquence]

^ same, really hoping they step up in a big way. Would hate to see one of the only reliable sources fall thru after 18+ months.

 

[kaiyudsai]

Im running their deca and dbol with american pharma T cyp and gains have been great. My second order doesnt seem to be going to well though. They took my funds and they wont answer any of my emails .... been 2 weeks since they took payment.They said I would get it 2 days after they took payment....

Hello,

I am sorry to those I havent sent a reply yet, I had to take a break today, tomorrow I will finally try my best to answer all, no one will gonna be left behind.

Regarding labmax tests, as I have posted before few days that, we provide regular HPLC-MS analysis to our RAW and final products and we wanted so many times to publish the results on our thread, but we were aware of the analyzes published by us could be considered non-confidential, thats why we have put our products and raw to HPLC-MS analyses to highly trusted and experienced member of this forum and the results will be posted in few days.

Also we dont have any problem to pay HPLC-MS analysis for the products that trusted customers already have.

The Labmax results that has been done today, was forwarded to David and he ll post a statment tomorrow.

Best regards Dan

THanks Dan... just good to hear you didnt forget about us......

As for the Lab Max results.... you can't use those to do quantitative analysis of an analyte. I guarantee they don't use the same quality control for reagents for these qualitative tests. You could argue that the flourescence intensity may be proportional to the concentration of the substance you are testing for, but it is also proportional to the reagent concentration. SO you are making assumptions that that testing reagent is always the same concentration. I spent many years working in a clinical chemistry laboratory , and I can tell you that very slight changes in concentration can have drastic changes in these spectrophotometric type tests and different places in the testing curve. These qualitative test are not a fair way of judging their concentration....

 

[Nitrobuste]

I hope you are right with that...

 

[Ragnar]

Im running their deca and dbol with american pharma T cyp and gains have been great. My second order doesnt seem to be going to well though. They took my funds and they wont answer any of my emails .... been 2 weeks since they took payment.They said I would get it 2 days after they took payment....



THanks Dan... just good to hear you didnt forget about us......

As for the Lab Max results.... you can't use those to do quantitative analysis of an analyte. I guarantee they don't use the same quality control for reagents for these qualitative tests. You could argue that the flourescence intensity may be proportional to the concentration of the substance you are testing for, but it is also proportional to the reagent concentration. SO you are making assumptions that that testing reagent is always the same concentration. I spent many years working in a clinical chemistry laboratory , and I can tell you that very slight changes in concentration can have drastic changes in these spectrophotometric type tests and different places in the testing curve. These qualitative test are not a fair way of judging their concentration....

All very true, however at this point members here have been using the labmax long enough to be able to make generalizations about a substances concentration.

While this is in no way scientific it's usually fairly accurate and nominates the offending substance for a MS.

Which is what is being done