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kaiyudsai said:
Im running their deca and dbol with american pharma T cyp and gains have been great. My second order doesnt seem to be going to well though. They took my funds and they wont answer any of my emails .... been 2 weeks since they took payment.They said I would get it 2 days after they took payment....



THanks Dan... just good to hear you didnt forget about us......

As for the Lab Max results.... you can't use those to do quantitative analysis of an analyte. I guarantee they don't use the same quality control for reagents for these qualitative tests. You could argue that the flourescence intensity may be proportional to the concentration of the substance you are testing for, but it is also proportional to the reagent concentration. SO you are making assumptions that that testing reagent is always the same concentration. I spent many years working in a clinical chemistry laboratory , and I can tell you that very slight changes in concentration can have drastic changes in these spectrophotometric type tests and different places in the testing curve. These qualitative test are not a fair way of judging their concentration....
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Do you honestly think a company that makes testing equipment for law enforcement doesn't have control measures to ensure the tests are properly and equally dosed with reagent? The test is designed to identify a substance but also can be used to detect potency, if you know what you're looking for. Once the MS comes back, we will revisit this conversation.
 
While I agree MS testing is needed, I am of the understanding their initial tests only need the presence of hormones for probable cause and potency wouldn't necessarily deter proving intent. However, am looking forward to geting MS test results.
 
Hmm I'm currently running the test prop, cyp, and tbol and seeing great gains. Could maybe random batches have flaws? I mean jumping 6lbs in 2.5 weeks in bw tells me it's kicking
 
Yeah no one will know until the mas spec comes back. However all I want is my order. Funds were taken awhile ago and still have received nothing but a few apology e mails that keep saying its on the way. lol
 
AnabolicMindset said:
However all I want is my order. Funds were taken awhile ago and still have received nothing but a few apology e mails that keep saying its on the way. lol
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Lol, yep.

Now not only do I have to worry if I'll get it or not, but if I do get it I have to worry if it's real.
 
Nitrobuste said:
Haha man. When you receive it, you can just throw it away.
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Wow you're just about useless here with statements like that. I am running their test cyp at 850mg/wk and am blowing up. I'm sure glad I didn't throw mine away as you suggest.
 
Flounder said:
Wow you're just about useless here with statements like that. I am running their test cyp at 850mg/wk and am blowing up. I'm sure glad I didn't throw mine away as you suggest.
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Dude, i was just kidding.

Im just so fucking angry about this all. I really hope the ge-tm gear is not completly useless...

And what about the users who said their gear is not doing anything for them (Tren warrior, ragnar,...) ?
 
Ok man I get it and I'm sorry if I misunderstood you. I had a 28 day wait for my delivery and was less then happy about it so I'm not here to defend ge-tm. Poor Anabolicmindset is getting the same broken promises and apologies that I got. I am just interested in seeing how Dan/Dave handle these issues. It looks to me like ge-tm's first real test here at Meso.
 
I doubt the gear is completely useless. There are too many people saying they are getting gains from the gear. However some may possibly be underdosed but I don't believe any gear you buy from a UGL is fully dosed just based on where most of them get the powders from and all that.
 
AnabolicMindset said:
I doubt the gear is completely useless. There are too many people saying they are getting gains from the gear. However some may possibly be underdosed but I don't believe any gear you buy from a UGL is fully dosed just based on where most of them get the powders from and all that.
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I have to call BS on that one
Dan goes on and on about this "professional lab" and how they check their raws.

As professionals they shouldn't ship me underdosed gear with floaters in it three weeks late after I have to ask three times where it's at

Under dosed the raws may be but it's the labs problem to account for and fix that.

I pay for 250mg/ml and I expect that.
If the lab has to double the raws in each batch to meet that label claim so be it. Or change your raw suppliers
 
I'd wait for the MS results (would prefer liquid chromo).......I work in pharmaceutical manufacturing...and an ID test like Labmax is just not an accurate potency indicator. Sure, it CAN give an estimate...but the opportunity for introduction of excess variation in the process just makes it very iffy.

I trust it for ID....but regardless of operator experience or any other factor; the process variation precludes it from being a consistently accurate indicator of potency.

As far as the reports of some folks getting great results and others getting nothing....based on my experience ordering from these guys....I would not be at all surprised if they have tremendous batch to batch variation in their production.

I received my stuff, haven't used it yet...but will post when I do.

I have chromo and MS equipment at work...but no way to get a standard reference for testing... :(
 
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