Geneza lab tests, Feb 8, 2015

Correct. Thank you.
Then how can your test results be at all credible if the tested product is not compared to a pure 99+% reference sample?

Wouldn't a 50% pure sample submitted for testing test at 106.5% pure if the reference was 46.9% pure? Or am I missing something...?
 
considering the raws coming out of china are producing 50% potency at best, i call bullshit

The bloodwork results prove the purity is close to the top though. 5390ng/dL on 750mg Test E/week is not 50% potency. Like it or not.
 
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Fuck naps
3 separate orders
All bunk gear
Game=over

What gear did you order? It would be good to know in order to avoid it.
I've ordered quite a few different products from Naps and only a couple of them that I thought were shit. But niether of them were Geneza, so I chock it up to the manufacturer rather than Naps trying to peddle bunk gear.

EDIT: Btw, the shitty gear was HCL Dbol. (Not total bunk, just unimpressed) and Vermodje Test E (complete fucking garbage. HORRIBLE PIP and WAY too fucking weak)
 
haha sure. No proof of course? Give me your 3 order numbers please. No? You can't? Why?
I'm still waiting on your Reply after I sent you my Order number naps. I'm on week 5, almost six. You mentioned you would cover the bloodwork cost..... Where you at???
 
I'm still waiting on your Reply after I sent you my Order number naps. I'm on week 5, almost six. You mentioned you would cover the bloodwork cost..... Where you at???

I answered your PM on Feb 1. I did not receive any replies from you since
 
You have spent the entire week sending in your minions on to this forum to warm everyone up, for the "Grand Reveal" of 106% Test results from china!! Really?? Fuck you Naps get the fuck out of here, nobody I mean nobody unless they are blind and stupid believes your simple minded ass! Personally, I think your better off peddling your wares over at eroids, cause those folks over there will believe anything....
 
What gear did you order? It would be good to know in order to avoid it.
I've ordered quite a few different products from Naps and only a couple of them that I thought were shit. But niether of them were Geneza, so I chock it up to the manufacturer rather than Naps trying to peddle bunk gear.

EDIT: Btw, the shitty gear was HCL Dbol. (Not total bunk, just unimpressed) and Vermodje Test E (complete fucking garbage. HORRIBLE PIP and WAY too fucking weak)
All Geneza.
Tbol
Test E
Test suspension
Aromison
Proviron
All shit.
750 MG ew of test E came back like 2300 ng/dl if I remember correctly.
Tbol, proviron and test s had absolutely no affect.
 
All Geneza.
Tbol
Test E
Test suspension
Aromison
Proviron
All shit.
750 MG ew of test E came back like 2300 ng/dl if I remember correctly.
Tbol, proviron and test s had absolutely no affect.
Geneza tbol is usually my favorite. Crazy strength gain about 70mg ed.


I don't think a source has ever came through here that you all like. Literally nothing but negativity in every thread. That's why nobody credits this forum. I'm still waiting on the "doctor" with his results... Lol
 
Geneza tbol is usually my favorite. Crazy strength gain about 70mg ed.


I don't think a source has ever came through here that you all like. Literally nothing but negativity in every thread. That's why nobody credits this forum. I'm still waiting on the "doctor" with his results... Lol
My experience with Geneza was nothing but positive before they started having those shipping issues years ago.
I loved the tbol, awesone strength gains and zero sides.
I also ran the test E and EQ with excellent results, I still tell people about how successful those early cycles were.

Then they showed up on meso giving away tons of gear and all of it was garbage, I was very disappointed.
 
G looked good to me until the 106.5% was posted. That clearly states "When you can't live up to standards, lower those standards". With so many choices to decide between, and seeing people burned every single time when giving someone a second chance, forget it. Naps tried to pull some shady shit right in front of everybody and that's the last chance they should be given.
 
106% Test results from china!! Really??

I can't comment on the standard but one thing I can tell for sure, it's not a "chinese lab", it's the US lab branch in China. And there are no other better options right now in this country. If you think any other UGL can find better reports in China, show me one! What you see is the best an UGL can do today.

The fact that meso and eroids members bloodwork reports show super high test levels proves the 106% Test E sample is indeed close to 100% in reality and the only idiot here is you.

There are some good testing labs in EU, for sure there are in US too. But here is a list of problems that any UGL faces:
a) Not many UGLs know of these labs or have access. Fact!
b) Those who have access will not always pay the money the lab charges. You have to pay at least for every raw materials batch tested. We do this every time we buy a new batch. One single report varies from $600 to $1000.
b) Do you really think there is UGL that will import the whole batch of raws into the country, then test it in EU or US lab and if something is wrong with the quality, the UGL will send the whole batch back to China? No! You may be lucky to receive the raws, but you can't send them back to China. Show me an EU country that will release at least 1kg of powder for exports.
Those UGLs that first buy 2grams of "perfect samples direct from a supplier", then buying a whole batch thinking the quality is the same are screwed in the long term. Guaranteed.

This is why the only right and available way for an UGL today is to test the raws in China. In the country you are buying them from (every UGL buys their raws in China). Buying the whole batch first (avoiding "perfect samples from the manufacturer direct"), testing the sample and if something is wrong there is no problem sending a whole batch back to supplier. This is what we do. And we run tests at the best and most professional lab there is in China these days. This lab was accredited to perform the labs during the Olympics 2008. China may not be the perfect place but there are no other better options for UGLs! And yes we are one of the few labs doing all the above mentioned procedure.

Although I may agree with some criticism you are giving me guys, you must understand the reality. And the reality is an underground lab can only operate in the field of certain available/limited possibilities. We are one of the few UGs that pushed those limits to the max.
 
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I can't comment on the standard but one thing I can tell for sure, it's not a "chinese lab", it's the US lab branch in China. And there are no other better options right now in this country. If you think any other UGL can find better reports in China, show me one! What you see is the best an UGL can do today.

The fact that meso and eroids members bloodwork reports show super high test levels proves the 106% Test E sample is indeed close to 100% in reality and the only idiot here is you.

There are some good testing labs in EU, for sure there are in US too. But here is a list of problems that any UGL faces:
a) Not many UGLs know of these labs or have access. Fact!
b) Those who have access will not always pay the money the lab charges. You have to pay at least for every raw materials batch tested. We do this every time we buy a new batch. One single report varies from $600 to $1000.
b) Do you really think there is UGL that will import the whole batch of raws into the country, then test it in EU or US lab and if something is wrong with the quality, the UGL will send the whole batch back to China? No! You may be lucky to receive the raws, but you can't send them back to China. Show me an EU country that will release at least 1kg of powder for exports.
Those UGLs that first buy 2grams of "perfect samples direct from a supplier", then buying a whole batch thinking the quality is the same are screwed in the long term. Guaranteed.

This is why the only right and available way for an UGL today is to test the raws in China. In the country you are buying them from (every UGL buys their raws in China). Buying the whole batch first (avoiding "perfect samples from the manufacturer direct"), testing the sample and if something is wrong there is no problem sending a whole batch back to supplier. This is what we do. And we run tests at the best and most professional lab there is in China these days. This lab was accredited to perform the labs during the Olympics 2008. China may not be the perfect place but there are no other better options for UGLs! And yes we are one of the few labs doing all the above mentioned procedure.

Although I may agree with some criticism you are giving me guys, you must understand the reality. And the reality is an underground lab can only operate in the field of certain available/limited possibilities. We are one of the few UGs that pushed those limits to the max.




Your full of yourself and your shit gear Naps.....Quote: I can't comment on the standard but one thing I can tell for sure, it's not a "chinese lab", it's the US lab branch in China. And there are no other better options right now in this country. If you think any other UGL can find better reports in China, show me one! Thats the point naps nobody including you..can get those results either! I don't give two shits what you say, your test is no way 106.5%!! Quote: The fact that meso and eroids members bloodwork reports show super high test levels proves the 106% Test E sample is indeed close to 100% in reality and the only idiot here is you. Which is it naps? 106% or more close to 100% in reality?? Who's the idiot? The one selling his snake oil to unsuspecting victims, or the one calling bullshit from the sidelines trying to make sure nobody gets fucked by you?? Your just mad cause Im calling you out on your lies and pointing out that your products have been known to cause infections and on occasion they look like this toilet water.....Go fuck yourself!!

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Thats the point naps nobody including you..can get those results either!!

Wrong. Not many UGLs even try and a lot don't give a shit about testing their raws!
It's not a big deal to find that lab in China to at least do the inhouse quality control. Still you don't see piles of HPLC reports on the boards which is weird for me.


Quote: The fact that meso and eroids members bloodwork reports show super high test levels proves the 106% Test E sample is indeed close to 100% in reality and the only idiot here is you. Which is it naps? 106% or more close to 100% in reality?? Who's the idiot?

Sorry, but you again.
The standard our Test E was compared towards was not perfect I agree. But to get 5390ng/dL on 750mg Test E/week means the real purity was close to 100%. This means our batch of Test E was closer to 100% then the standard. Comprende?

And that black tren, oxidized batch from 2013. Anything new?
 
Wrong. Not many UGLs even try and a lot don't give a shit about testing their raws!
It's not a big deal to find that lab in China to at least do the inhouse quality control. Still you don't see piles of HPLC reports on the boards which is weird for me.




Sorry, but you again.
The standard our Test E was compared towards was not perfect I agree. But to get 5390ng/dL on 750mg Test E/week means the real purity was close to 100%. This means our batch of Test E was closer to 100% then the standard. Comprende?

And that black tren, oxidized batch from 2013. Anything new?


Blah, Blah, Blah you think your shit is the best, but in reality anyone who knows anything about you or this game knows your full of it. Same shit different day, people who have no other choices for gear buy from assholes like you. You would sell bunk gear to your mom if it meant you making a buck, cause that's all this is about, is the money. You don't care about people's health or anything else. Oh yeah that oxidized batch from 2013 wasn't that the same batch you also sent to some other folks as well and told them its ok to use it? I mean seriously???? Oh and those Normas have you tested those either, since they are no longer in production??? Seriously, your full of shit and you prey on the weak minded newbies that don't know any better.
 
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