Geneza lab tests, Feb 8, 2015

[XNooBX]

Here is another one anavar 103.3% pure

https://www.1napsgear.org/img/labtest/Oxandrolone.pdf

Just look at the chromatograph there are a lot of peaks, it means that there are a lot of other substances, there is no way that anavar would be even close to 50%

There are a lot of retards on eroids and paid boards ready to buy everything, things like this do not fly here

Dude there is no way he is getting those numbers....

 

[naps]

Blah, Blah, Blah

lol at other UGLs taking care about peoples health. But we actually do by at least trying to test the raws purity. You must admit there are very few UGLs doing this or you are an idiot again.

And since we are having a friendly discussion here, I'd like to say sorry for refusing to send you shit for free when you asked in PM. I admit I didn't even answer your PM in 2014. Is this what you are mad about bro?

Regarding the norma, I'd like give you some updates. Norma Deca and Test are both in production. But Deca has not been produced for a few years now, this is why it's out of stock on our website. Norma Test is available in most pharmacies in Greece. It's still in production. You won't believe of course, but if you have a pharmaceutical company and know your business you can do business direct with Norma company.

 

[naps]

Here is another one anavar 103.3% pure

https://www.1napsgear.org/img/labtest/Oxandrolone.pdf

Just look at the chromatograph there are a lot of peaks, it means that there are a lot of other substances, there is no way that anavar would be even close to 50%

There are a lot of retards on eroids and paid boards ready to buy everything, things like this do not fly here

What did the lab report of your other favorite UGL show on their recent Oxandrolone HPLC test?

 

[XNooBX]

lol at other UGLs taking care about peoples health. But we actually do by at least trying to test the raws purity. You must admit there are very few UGLs doing this or you are an idiot again.

And since we are having a friendly discussion here, I'd like to say sorry for refusing to send you shit for free when you asked in PM. I admit I didn't even answer your PM in 2014. Is this what you are mad about bro?

Regarding the norma, I'd like give you some updates. Norma Deca and Test are both in production. But Deca has not been produced for a few years now, this is why it's out of stock on our website. Norma Test is available in most pharmacies in Greece. It's still in production. You won't believe of course, but if you have a pharmaceutical company and know your business you can do business direct with Norma company.

Haha you mean when you were giving away free samples to new members with X amount of posts?..lmao please!!! How bout deflect from shitty gear!! Wow I actually think that was 2013 when I joined, I was a new member then... But lets make this clear You probably don't have a clue but I once bought from your ass and gave you a chance, but your gear still wasn't what all it was cracked up to be. Not saying it was bunk but will say I was already on a cycle using someone else's gear and changed to yours and the last 6 weeks of my cycle was shit, because of your shitty gear! My cycle was a complete fucking waste because of your gear! Period!!!

 

[XNooBX]

Any MESO member with over 50 posts is welcome to place a FREE $200 order for Geneza products. The order must include Geneza injectables except T400, Prima 200 and blends.

No cycle logs needed, just your honest feedback.

Place an order on our website and PM me the order number.

Thank you.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/free-giveaway-for-meso-members.134347128/

Is this the free giveaway you referring too? Hmmm Trying to discredit me won't help the fact you still have shitty gear bro...

 

[naps]

So to be short, you don't have bloodwork to support your claims, you prefer to ignore all these lab tests that no other UGL is doing, you ignore all the bloodwork people are posting on this and many other boards. Instead you just think the gear is shitty. Ok. But I do recommend you to wake up. This board is illusion created by a dozen of jealous fucks.

 

[XNooBX]

Well if you dont like this board and it jealous fucks as you put it, then dont let the door hit you on the ass on they way out back to eroids! Just make sure you take your fucking shills with you! Ohh and Jealous of what? Numbers we consider to be, not an honest representation of the actual assay in you Test? As far as bloods are concerned I don't need a fucking blood test to tell me if the shit isn't working. When Im banging 1gram a week of test then I start using your shit and all of a sudden Im not making anymore gains! Common sense tells me what the fuck it is...shitty gear! The only thing I've had of yours that I believe is worth a shit is your 20mg d-bol other than that I don't trust you or your gear!

 

[Rareby]

Can't really add anything to the discussion , as I haven't even bought gear yet. just wanted to say I definatly admire naps coming here and defending there business.

Is this the length they need to goto to scam people?

Or is he rightfully defending himself ?

I would prob try his geneva test if I decided to jump on now. Seems to be working hard to defend it. As far as I'm aware the rest of the stuff in site he has no clue about ?

 

[Gramps]

you prefer to ignore all these lab tests that no other UGL is doing

You discredit other labs for not testing raws while you are using diluted standards to show a false and impossible higher result which can't physically happen. I'd much rather support a lab that admits they don't test yet try to adjust their dosage rather than support a lab that outright FUCKING LIES. There are 2 lowest forms of life on this planet - those who lie, and those who steal. By lying, you're stealing by misleading so FUCK OFF already. Plus, a "rep" for a lab calling a forum member an idiot? My suggestion is for naps to tell you to take a hike, straighten up their bullshit lying routine, and try to recover from this fiasco. Too late to ever take my money, but others may be more forgiving.

 

[johnsmith081734]

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um just wondering, why does this gear look like that??. it doesn't look normal to be honest...

 

[XNooBX]

Hell who knows? Ask Naps he's a friggin know it all, and besides that's his product......

 

[Mana]

I am surprised that labs are not keeping a higher standard in purity of their products so that they can have repeat business in the long run.

 

[naps]

I would prob try his geneva test if I decided to jump on now. Seems to be working hard to defend it. As far as I'm aware the rest of the stuff in site he has no clue about ?

If you ever decide to do a bloodwork and check your test levels I will compensate the costs. Thanks for being doubting and rational.

 

[naps]

I am surprised that labs are not keeping a higher standard in purity of their products so that they can have repeat business in the long run.

Yes, me too. I've asked the lab if I can offer them high quality standards from sigmaaldrich.com - best in business. I think they will be happy to accept them.

 

[naps]

FUCKING LIES. There are 2 lowest forms of life on this planet - those who lie, and those who steal.

I'm sure there are more but I'll add jut one. Living in a box. This is being convinced in something and not wanting to hear other opinions.

I don't see a way I can prove the lab reports are real. I'm not here to prove it and I'm not here to forbid your doubting thoughts. We do these tests with every single raw materials batch we are buying, and we share these tests with the community. That's all.
We do this, others don't. This doesn't mean someone is better or worse. I can only speak for myself. But trust me with the quality of Chinese raws and the business habits of Chinese entrepreneurs, every UGL must test their raws or it's a problem sooner or later.
People are posting the black oxidized tren pic from the times we have been testing the raws occasionally. Now I would rather close the business if I can't test the raws. We are not a small lab operation. With the volumes we do, if something goes wrong with the product you will literally see thousands of people popping up on boards with complaints. I understand the risk and I will never release a product without at least testing the raw material first. Trust me I know what I'm talking about. The black tren in 2013 is the prime example.

Or may be you can name an UGL that did not have a single issue ever? You can't. You can't do it even with the labs that come and go within a few months. And there are only few that operate over a decade like us. Even licensed factories like Galenika used to fuck up with their underdosed test e in 2000's. I wish you luck with the UGL from the guy you trust because even this guy doesn't know what he gets without HPLC.

We have to do the lab tests in China for the reasons described earlier and this is the only way for other UGLs to proceed if they have long term business plans. You can trust our labs, you can doubt them. I said doubt because if you think you are 100% sure these lab reports are lies, you are one of the 2 forms of life you described above. I sincerely hope you still live in a box though. Time to wake up!

 

[brutus79]

Can't really add anything to the discussion , as I haven't even bought gear yet. just wanted to say I definatly admire naps coming here and defending there business.

Is this the length they need to goto to scam people?

Or is he rightfully defending himself ?

I would prob try his geneva test if I decided to jump on now. Seems to be working hard to defend it. As far as I'm aware the rest of the stuff in site he has no clue about ?

Sources are not allowed to have more than one handle- so maybe you guys are just trying to get a deal on your next super duper naps order? I assure you he doesn't need your help.

70 mg real tbol would practically incapacitate you... I hope you try properly dosed tbol one day.

Geneza tbol is usually my favorite. Crazy strength gain about 70mg ed.


I don't think a source has ever came through here that you all like. Literally nothing but negativity in every thread. That's why nobody credits this forum. I'm still waiting on the "doctor" with his results... Lol

 

[Volley_Fire]

If you ever decide to do a bloodwork and check your test levels I will compensate the costs. Thanks for being doubting and rational.

I will take you up on this offer. I have some Geneza gear that I will start in a couple weeks.

 

[apmakeio]

I'm sure there are more but I'll add jut one. Living in a box. This is being convinced in something and not wanting to hear other opinions.

I don't see a way I can prove the lab reports are real. I'm not here to prove it and I'm not here to forbid your doubting thoughts. We do these tests with every single raw materials batch we are buying, and we share these tests with the community. That's all.
We do this, others don't. This doesn't mean someone is better or worse. I can only speak for myself. But trust me with the quality of Chinese raws and the business habits of Chinese entrepreneurs, every UGL must test their raws or it's a problem sooner or later.
People are posting the black oxidized tren pic from the times we have been testing the raws occasionally. Now I would rather close the business if I can't test the raws. We are not a small lab operation. With the volumes we do, if something goes wrong with the product you will literally see thousands of people popping up on boards with complaints. I understand the risk and I will never release a product without at least testing the raw material first. Trust me I know what I'm talking about. The black tren in 2013 is the prime example.

Or may be you can name an UGL that did not have a single issue ever? You can't. You can't do it even with the labs that come and go within a few months. And there are only few that operate over a decade like us. Even licensed factories like Galenika used to fuck up with their underdosed test e in 2000's. I wish you luck with the UGL from the guy you trust because even this guy doesn't know what he gets without HPLC.

We have to do the lab tests in China for the reasons described earlier and this is the only way for other UGLs to proceed if they have long term business plans. You can trust our labs, you can doubt them. I said doubt because if you think you are 100% sure these lab reports are lies, you are one of the 2 forms of life you described above. I sincerely hope you still live in a box though. Time to wake up!

Geneza is not by far the only lab testing in China. There are labs that do this procedure since 2007 or before having their own purchasing team there doing full quality control and paying suppliers at 30 or 60 days terms (after checking their whole stock by QA/QC). My question is only one: what reference standard is the "US lab" using? I doubt you're testing with Sigma Aldrich and from the result the "US lab" has either messed up the analysis or the reference standard was in fact a underground chemical raw material supplier sample. If you send a 50% pure sample of dbol and test against your 50% pure reference standard guess what, you'll get 100% top notch HPLC result. Media stunt for naive customers, don't take it as offence, you're saying not many labs are posting up their Quality Control data, well, internal quality checks are completely irrelevant to the public since are internal, so nobody can trust the as being genuine or objective without being present and skilled for Quality Control.

 

[apmakeio]

Intertek lab test with steraloids or sigma, that would be a truly relevant test. Inhouse tests and uploaded on the UGL's webpage are just a nice graphic with numbers nothing to be taken seriously. I can post over 200 HPLC and HPLC/MS results only for 2015 but who performed the tests? Me. Would I promote a brand with a bad test (which for example for oxandrolone happened, <90%)? Of course not, I'm not shooting my own leg.

Btw naps, sufficient labs are buying India API, much better quality!

 

[Athlete127]

Sources are not allowed to have more than one handle- so maybe you guys are just trying to get a deal on your next super duper naps order? I assure you he doesn't need your help.

70 mg real tbol would practically incapacitate you... I hope you try properly dosed tbol one day.

Hate to burst your bubble but 50-70 is a very wide used dose of tbol... We aren't talked dbol. Hell, I know people who have used 100mg dbol/adrol