GH sides

Bumpygooch

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At what dosage to sides usually appear for you? I typically don’t get any at up to 4iu/day. I know it’s dependent on quality, or pharma vs generic. I was running a generic from another board at 3iu/day, had IGF come back at over 270, baseline was 150. But, no tingles, no CTS, no water retention. Ran some norditropin for 2 weeks at 3iu/day(6iu EOD split twice), I suspect it was bunk. Running Zomacton at 3.75iu/day now(dosed 7.5EOD). This morning I took the whole 7.5iu, after reading might mouse suggestion of running the whole 6iu/day for fat loss maximization, also to see if I felt any sides(nothing 4 hours later) I did contact ferring about the Zomacton to verify it’s validity. Was told the clinic followed all the right steps and it sounds to be legit.
 
I used just one source of generic... at 3+2 ED I got sides.. one year later at 3.3iu ED got no sides... don’t know
Highly individual for sure, yes. I don’t see much in the way of sides from anything, really. Often leads me to believe most of this shit that I buy is bunk.
 
Highly individual for sure, yes. I don’t see much in the way of sides from anything, really. Often leads me to believe most of this shit that I buy is bunk.

what “HGH you wanted to be” did you run?
I ordered 2kits of the actually well spoken Opti... hope it will be good
 
what “HGH you wanted to be” did you run?
I ordered 2kits of the actually well spoken Opti... hope it will be good
I’ve run now 4 different GHs, 2 pharma and 2 generic. I’ve been cutting since October(shoulder surgery prevented my bulk/blast), so, I can’t tell if I’ve lost any more fat than I would have as my diet is pretty tight. But, no real sleep benefit, or anything else to speak of, and, like I said, no sides. I have 2 lots of Opti as well, I think I’ll run that at 4iu/day.
 
Sides aren't a way to tell if hgh is bunk. Pull IGF bloods and or serum.
Not what I asked, what I asked and my statement about things being bunk are mutually exclusive. I mentioned getting IGF numbers pulled and a baseline...scroll up, like the 4th line of my opener.
 
I’ve run now 4 different GHs, 2 pharma and 2 generic. I’ve been cutting since October(shoulder surgery prevented my bulk/blast), so, I can’t tell if I’ve lost any more fat than I would have as my diet is pretty tight. But, no real sleep benefit, or anything else to speak of, and, like I said, no sides. I have 2 lots of Opti as well, I think I’ll run that at 4iu/day.
And your sure the 2 pharma were real pharma? Because you know, they’re easily faked.. maybe even codes don’t actually know but I wouldn’t surprise me if so..
 
And your sure the 2 pharma were real pharma? Because you know, they’re easily faked.. maybe even codes don’t actually know but I wouldn’t surprise me if so..
Zomacton I got from a clinic, I called ferring to try to confirm, they said it sounds good. The norditropin(and genotropin which I haven’t used yet), I imagine are fakes at this point.
 
Highly individual for sure, yes. I don’t see much in the way of sides from anything, really. Often leads me to believe most of this shit that I buy is bunk.

now I don’t have sides if not tingling hands upon waking.. it’s difficult to close them..

But on cycle I lost fat and now I m not putting (almost nothing) fat on 3500kcals with just TRT...

I think I mine is pretty decent... hope Opti will be better..

didnt you notice any fatloss?
 
Not what I asked, what I asked and my statement about things being bunk are mutually exclusive. I mentioned getting IGF numbers pulled and a baseline...scroll up, like the 4th line of my opener.
I read the post about baseline and IGF I didn't say that's what you asked. I quoted you saying that because you didn't get sides you thought that what you'd been getting was bunk.
 
I read the post about baseline and IGF I didn't say that's what you asked. I quoted you saying that because you didn't get sides you thought that what you'd been getting was bunk.
I made a general statement about everything, “all the shit that I buy.” I qualified it in the sentence that precedes it. We’re getting hung up on minutiae. I see you bought quite a few kits of Opti. Where did you notice effects, and where did you notice, sides, if at all?
 
now I don’t have sides if not tingling hands upon waking.. it’s difficult to close them..

But on cycle I lost fat and now I m not putting (almost nothing) fat on 3500kcals with just TRT...

I think I mine is pretty decent... hope Opti will be better..

didnt you notice any fatloss?
Well, I started a different generic while still bulking. Got so sick of eating 5500+ cals that I dropped dosage and went to deficit at the same time. Dropped a shitload of weight pretty quickly, so, like I said in regards to fat loss, I’m not sure I didn’t lose any fat that I wouldn’t have lost in deficit anyway. Going to take a 2 week diet break at maintenance, then go back into deficit and start Optis at 4iu/day.
 
I made a general statement about everything, “all the shit that I buy.” I qualified it in the sentence that precedes it. We’re getting hung up on minutiae. I see you bought quite a few kits of Opti. Where did you notice effects, and where did you notice, sides, if at all?
Only time I got bad sides was my first run. I jumped in at 3iu of mauves and bumped to 4iu within a couple weeks. Sides came out of nowhere about 6 weeks in. Horrible painful numbness in hands, like would wake me from sleep. Could barely hold onto my tools at work.

All other runs since then I've started at 2iu for 2 weeks then bump up 1iu each week until I reach my desired dose. Never gone more than 6iu, 5iu seems to be the sweet spot for me. Every once in awhile I get a little tingle in my fingers, but nothing like the first run.
 
Only time I got bad sides was my first run. I jumped in at 3iu of mauves and bumped to 4iu within a couple weeks. Sides came out of nowhere about 6 weeks in. Horrible painful numbness in hands, like would wake me from sleep. Could barely hold onto my tools at work.

All other runs since then I've started at 2iu for 2 weeks then bump up 1iu each week until I reach my desired dose. Never gone more than 6iu, 5iu seems to be the sweet spot for me. Every once in awhile I get a little tingle in my fingers, but nothing like the first run.
I’m gonna jump in at 4 with Opti, which would be fine based on how I’ve been running the GH to this point. What is a little concerning is if what I’m running IS bunk, 4iu of a GH that isn’t, the sides may be crippling. Unfortunately, I’m in a communist state that doesn’t allow adults to get labs on their own.
 
I’m gonna jump in at 4 with Opti, which would be fine based on how I’ve been running the GH to this point. What is a little concerning is if what I’m running IS bunk, 4iu of a GH that isn’t, the sides may be crippling. Unfortunately, I’m in a communist state that doesn’t allow adults to get labs on their own.
NY? I thought I saw someone post a work around for one of those states.
 
If the shit is legit, I see sides even at 2iu in the beginning phase. Once at 4iu+, I can expect to feel extremely lethargic until I get used to it. I've always had water retention until I was on a certain dosage for awhile.

When hygetropin first hit the scene. Back when the caps were brown, I got sicker than a fucking dog on 8iu a day. Projectile vomiting, gas, no appetite, all you can do is deal with it and wait for the storm to pass. I think in any event it's smarter to increase dose slowly. It's more abt how long you can run it rather than how many units as quickly as you can climb there
 
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