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You nailed it. Of course you can still lose weight even at the same dosage, it's just harder. You gotta do it the old way, with pain tears and hunger. I mean it's funny because we all don't even know what's real hunger, we have NO IDEA. it's kind of a shame when we say shit like: I'm hungry all the time. I mean please bitch you have no fucking idea what HUNGER is. I don't. You don't. He doesn't.That’s something I’ve always been curious about - why it seems to work that way. In theory, someone should still be able to lose weight on a lower dose if they’re in a proper deficit, doing cardio, and training consistently. So I wonder if the idea of a “plateau” on GLP-1s has more to do with how people approach it.
Maybe it’s less about the drug losing effect and more about the behaviors around it - like relying on the appetite suppression instead of using it as a tool to build better habits. Not judging at all, just genuinely interested in how much of it is physiological vs psychological.
I think you just don't understand not everone's body can just be lean and feel fine. when I wasn't on Tirz and would get down to 15% bf I'd be starving all day long every day, even after maintaining 15% bf for months my body never would adjust, just constant hunger for months on end. eventually I was just bound to regain the weight, no matter how good my habits wereThat’s something I’ve always been curious about - why it seems to work that way. In theory, someone should still be able to lose weight on a lower dose if they’re in a proper deficit, doing cardio, and training consistently. So I wonder if the idea of a “plateau” on GLP-1s has more to do with how people approach it.
Maybe it’s less about the drug losing effect and more about the behaviors around it - like relying on the appetite suppression instead of using it as a tool to build better habits. Not judging at all, just genuinely interested in how much of it is physiological vs psychological.
exactly. when I was lean and not on tirzepatide all I could think about was food and even just bland stuff like lean meat and fruit would make my mouth water, I would be going for walks and walk by all the bakeries just to look at the sweets from outside. being hungry litterally turns you into a fuking weirdo. I also would develop all sorts of strange behaviours and obsessions, like if my mother made my bed I'd feel extremely angry and guilty because I hadn't done it myself in the morning. weird shit like that,The body has an energy homeostasis system. In other words, it wants to be a certain size/level of fat stores.
Below that it induces you to eat via physical and physiological mechanisms. Digestion speeds up. Sense of smell sharpens. Mouth waters. Increasingly invasive thoughts about food.
Above that level, digestion slows, food seems unappetizing, even the thought of "eating one more bite" can induce nausea.
Exogenous GLP hormones simply lower that "setting" your body wants to maintain.
All the "appetite suppression" effects are the same things you'd experience after gorging yourself to excess on a large meal by forcing yourself to eat beyond your appetite.
I belive so. every time I lost weight naturally I'd feel horribleThat’s a really clear explanation - thanks for laying it out like that. Makes a lot more sense now why GLP-1s feel the way they do. It’s wild how they mimic the “I’m way too full” state without needing to actually eat that much.
Also makes me wonder - do you think that “set point” is mostly genetic? Like, some people seem stuck at a certain weight no matter how hard they diet, while others stay lean without much effort. I guess GLP-1s help shift that point, but I’m curious how much flexibility we really have long-term.
15% bf is not lean lolI think you just don't understand not everone's body can just be lean and feel fine. when I wasn't on Tirz and would get down to 15% bf I'd be starving all day long every day, even after maintaining 15% bf for months my body never would adjust, just constant hunger for months on end. eventually I was just bound to regain the weight, no matter how good my habits were
you're the one who has no idea. you're always calling others retards on this forum but your advice on everything is atroicious.15% bf is not lean lol
and you were hungry because you were starving yourself to get to 15%.
You probably have no clue on how to manipulate your body and exercise etc.
You should learn on how to fire your metabolism and pack muscle so that to be at 15% you don't even have to make an effort.
You can eat lasagna and pizza and stay at 15%. Sorry but you have no fucking clue of what you are talking about, I read only a bunch of excuses from an individual that hasn't optimized his body in anyway.
Sure crybaby keep telling yourself that.you're the one who has no idea. you're always calling others retards on this forum but your advice on everything is atroicious.
you constantly say idiotic shit on GLPs and AAS, you belive everyone else's experience is the same as yours amd not capable of understanding that not everyone's body reacts the same to different things.15% bf is not lean lol
and you were hungry because you were starving yourself to get to 15%.
You probably have no clue on how to manipulate your body and exercise etc.
You should learn on how to fire your metabolism and pack muscle so that to be at 15% you don't even have to make an effort.
You can eat lasagna and pizza and stay at 15%. Sorry but you have no fucking clue of what you are talking about, I read only a bunch of excuses from an individual that hasn't optimized his body in anyway.
you are making shit up to validate your argument. this isn't even about drugs, you are litterally saying that a person you don't know and have never seem has not experienced what say they have experience. litteral children make belive gamesSure crybaby keep telling yourself that.
Starving being 15% bf what a joke.
Sure you gonna starve, if you wanna be 15% bf while sitting on a couch doing nothing.
im pretty sure "EVERYONEs" body responds to some seroius cardio, You can't deny that,, Calorie defecit/cardio, eating right, your gonna reap benefits,you constantly say idiotic shit on GLPs and AAS, you belive everyone else's experience is the same as yours amd not capable of understanding that not everyone's body reacts the same to different things.
hunger is hunger, no matter how much cardio you doim pretty sure "EVERYONEs" body responds to some seroius cardio, You can't deny that,, Calorie defecit/cardio, eating right, your gonna reap benefits,
not even food noise, actual hunger. being lean is not normal for everyone. and why the fuck would I want to suffer to be lean, this is not a suffering contest, I want to look good and feel good, all the willpower guys are just trying to fill their egos.ohh "Food noise" ?
Eating smart, training smart, it's not even about discipline... If one makes his own body work properly it will burn fuel it will allow to eat you more and even slack here and there on the diet and you will still improve your physique, especially when the goal is a normal 15% bf lolim pretty sure "EVERYONEs" body responds to some seroius cardio, You can't deny that,, Calorie defecit/cardio, eating right, your gonna reap benefits,
after all it is "What your comfortable with",, i totally understand,, Have a Grateful day ,,not even food noise, actual hunger. being lean is not normal for everyone. and why the fuck would I want to suffer to be lean, this is not a suffering contest, I want to look good and feel good, all the willpower guys are just trying to fill their egos.
if I can be lean, have some muscle and be healthy with minimal effort thanks to some injections I'd be an idiot not to do it
You will never look good, no matter how much Tirzepatide you injectnot even food noise, actual hunger. being lean is not normal for everyone. and why the fuck would I want to suffer to be lean, this is not a suffering contest, I want to look good and feel good, all the willpower guys are just trying to fill their egos.
if I can be lean, have some muscle and be healthy with minimal effort thanks to some injections I'd be an idiot not to do it
it's not about effort it's about genes.You will never look good, no matter how much Tirzepatide you inject
I'm not against GLP1 at all, it's just ridiculous when ppl like you make statement like the one you do.
You don't even understand why you are hungry, you just think it's you being unlucky instead of you being unable to train and improve your metabolism properly
That’s a really clear explanation - thanks for laying it out like that. Makes a lot more sense now why GLP-1s feel the way they do. It’s wild how they mimic the “I’m way too full” state without needing to actually eat that much.
Also makes me wonder - do you think that “set point” is mostly genetic? Like, some people seem stuck at a certain weight no matter how hard they diet, while others stay lean without much effort. I guess GLP-1s help shift that point, but I’m curious how much flexibility we really have long-term.
I was a little fat when young and I was skinny fat later on, I love to eat and I can easily binge eat like a pro. You just like to tell yourself a story that suits your narrative.it's not about effort it's about genes.
tall people are respected, short people are ridiculed
good looking people are admired, ugly people are shunned
fit people are praiaed for their "hard work", out of shale people are shamed for their "lack of discipline"
smart people are praised, dumb people are takem advanted of and insulted
it's all just luck. you might have gotten lucky and belive everyone else just doesn't try
I get what you’re saying, and I don’t want to dismiss your experience - chronic hunger at lower body fat is real for a lot of people. But I’ve got to be honest, I don’t fully agree with the idea that some people “just can’t” stay lean.I think you just don't understand not everone's body can just be lean and feel fine. when I wasn't on Tirz and would get down to 15% bf I'd be starving all day long every day, even after maintaining 15% bf for months my body never would adjust, just constant hunger for months on end. eventually I was just bound to regain the weight, no matter how good my habits were
