Greyowl's Tendonitis....Whhaaaaaaa

pmgamer18 said:
Greyowl the only way I can get going in the morning is to go into my spa for a half an hour. The Temp I use is 101 deg. After doing this I am good for most of the day. So I eat breakfast then go for a 1 hour walk. I was doing gels but they did nothing for my joint a muscle pain. In the last 4 months I have been doing 150 mgs. of Depo T shots every week and 500 IU's of Hcg 3x's a week. The Hcg I just started 4 weeks ago. In the last 7 weeks I have lost 20.5 lbs. Until I went to shots I was house bound and could barly walk. I hope to start on the Dum Bells soon I am 61.
Phil

Very intersting info Phil. Are you saying the T plus the HCG fixed arthritis in your knees? And how did you lose the 20.5 lbs -- because the shots helped you start doing cardio again? Or was it the shots themselves?

They have a jacuzzi at my gym but the temp is never really hot enough for me, so I hang out in the schvitz, which is blistering hot.
 
If the acetaphetamine and msm, glucosamine are not working anymore, consider synvisc injections for the OA. I lift regularly, hike, and even jog a little, inspite of the OA.
 
greyowl said:
Very intersting info Phil. Are you saying the T plus the HCG fixed arthritis in your knees? And how did you lose the 20.5 lbs -- because the shots helped you start doing cardio again? Or was it the shots themselves?

They have a jacuzzi at my gym but the temp is never really hot enough for me, so I hang out in schvitz, which is blistering hot.
Having Low T brakes down the joints and muscles and I was fine on the shots 300 mgs. every 3 weeks but what a rollercoaster ride. When my levels went down from the stress of an infection. The first thing I noticed was sore joints and muscles. Then came the patch doing this was a bitch also red marks all over my body. But doing the patch my joints and muscles were ok I have had low T for over 21 yrs. So then when I went on the gels my joints and muscles got so bad that I could hardly walk my Dr. thought it was Arthritis and put me on Vioxx this did nothing. We never though to think that it was the AndroGel not doing the job for my joints and muscles. I has posted that I was house bound for some time at the Hyp.2 group and someone posted back to me to try shots he was like me on the gels and getting so much pain he had a hard time walking. I told my Dr. about this and he looked back in my chart and there is was my big complant when T levels were going down that my joints and muscles hurt. When I started back on shots we did them every week after 2 weeks the pain started going away and I was able to go back to my walking. I have followed Weight Watchers Program for some yrs. but if you can't get out and do something it is had to lose weight. So now I am walking 1 hr. a day and working around the house. I have a lot of work to do around the house after being layed up for so long. Why does the shots help with my joint and muscle pain don't know but doing the gels does not do the job for me.
My Dr. told me he feels that the longer I am on the shots the better my joints and muscles will get. He said the T shots are rebuilding my joints and muscles.
Phil
 
pmgamer18 said:
Having Low T brakes down the joints and muscles and I was fine on the shots 300 mgs. every 3 weeks but what a rollercoaster ride. When my levels went down from the stress of an infection. The first thing I noticed was sore joints and muscles. Then came the patch doing this was a bitch also red marks all over my body. But doing the patch my joints and muscles were ok I have had low T for over 21 yrs. So then when I went on the gels my joints and muscles got so bad that I could hardly walk my Dr. thought it was Arthritis and put me on Vioxx this did nothing. We never though to think that it was the AndroGel not doing the job for my joints and muscles. I has posted that I was house bound for some time at the Hyp.2 group and someone posted back to me to try shots he was like me on the gels and getting so much pain he had a hard time walking. I told my Dr. about this and he looked back in my chart and there is was my big complant when T levels were going down that my joints and muscles hurt. When I started back on shots we did them every week after 2 weeks the pain started going away and I was able to go back to my walking. I have followed Weight Watchers Program for some yrs. but if you can't get out and do something it is had to lose weight. So now I am walking 1 hr. a day and working around the house. I have a lot of work to do around the house after being layed up for so long. Why does the shots help with my joint and muscle pain don't know but doing the gels does not do the job for me.
My Dr. told me he feels that the longer I am on the shots the better my joints and muscles will get. He said the T shots are rebuilding my joints and muscles.
Phil

Phil, this is worthy of more discussion. I'm going to start a new thread in this section and ask Swale to weigh in.
 
Ok I just wish the other guys that have the same problems using gels creams and patchs. Would come over and post there are about 12 that get sore joints and muscles doing them and the are a lot better on the shots.
Phil
 
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