voltron111
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That's good results from the last batch. I'm still waiting on my replacements...
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Haunch
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That's so true, I've been looking for awhile and always left disappointed
dlastmohican
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Mands... you need to read the whole article. It says it right there. The FDA considers a significant difference to be less than 20 percent.
that doesn't mean that all will have that much deviation, or come close, simply that it can occur. Do not assume you know how the FDA defines or determines a parameter simply by some ambigious sentence from their site. You might be very surprised as to how those things operate... but then again, you are a pharmacist and have worked in pharmaceuticals so you already know that.
My point is, this hammer guy may be a weekend warrior... but he may not. I keep reading you vets slamming these UGLs and granted, it is often times warranted. Actually, it is probably warranted more than it is not, but so far this guy hasn't shown himself to be a flap, although he hasn't earned his stripes. Stop knocking UGLs when you are apprehensive to give your source of legit UGL. Telling people to just "hang out and learn" is a cop out and bullshit. Stop acting like you give a shit about someones safety when you know damn well that these newbies are just like you were when you were a newbie.. they are going to do it, they are going to buy it and they aren't going to wait around here for years or even months to "learn". Maybe less than .5% of the vets here get script grade test and .5% of that .5% is running the border to Mexico (which doesn't guarantee quality). You are getting from a UGL. PM these newbies and let them know some legit UGLs.
that doesn't mean that all will have that much deviation, or come close, simply that it can occur. Do not assume you know how the FDA defines or determines a parameter simply by some ambigious sentence from their site. You might be very surprised as to how those things operate... but then again, you are a pharmacist and have worked in pharmaceuticals so you already know that.
My point is, this hammer guy may be a weekend warrior... but he may not. I keep reading you vets slamming these UGLs and granted, it is often times warranted. Actually, it is probably warranted more than it is not, but so far this guy hasn't shown himself to be a flap, although he hasn't earned his stripes. Stop knocking UGLs when you are apprehensive to give your source of legit UGL. Telling people to just "hang out and learn" is a cop out and bullshit. Stop acting like you give a shit about someones safety when you know damn well that these newbies are just like you were when you were a newbie.. they are going to do it, they are going to buy it and they aren't going to wait around here for years or even months to "learn". Maybe less than .5% of the vets here get script grade test and .5% of that .5% is running the border to Mexico (which doesn't guarantee quality). You are getting from a UGL. PM these newbies and let them know some legit UGLs.
Hasn't shown himself to be a flap???
His tren was complete shit wtf are you talking about. What because he sent some replacements all is forgiven??? That's not how it works and thats the reason he gets shit around here.
Ummm did read the article. You might wanna read the Orange Book.
Your 20% is talking about the bio equivalence not the actual "main" drug itself.
You can have the exact same raw drug from a supplier and add almost identical fillers etc. but you could substitute one and the bioavailability of the drug changes. This doesn't mean the drug is any less pure just how much of the drug is available in your body.
I'm not gonna hold your hand through this. You need read the whole article and understand what you are reading.
mands
dlastmohican
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actually mands, I have a minor in chemistry and am married to a pharmacist... so I get it. You are not reading the posts and responding with childish knee jerk reactions to what is said instead of comprehending what I am saying. Maybe I need to use smaller words.
It comes down to this... hold the UGLs accountable, but stop pounding the newbies if you aren't going to at the very least PM them with reputable UGLs. Stop harping about the legitimacy of script grade pharmaceuticals and saying that newbies need to try to get it because the almost certainly will not.
It comes down to this... hold the UGLs accountable, but stop pounding the newbies if you aren't going to at the very least PM them with reputable UGLs. Stop harping about the legitimacy of script grade pharmaceuticals and saying that newbies need to try to get it because the almost certainly will not.
You need to have a little respect. Nobody is handing out sources here- it isnt a source board. You giving directions about how to treat anyone on this board is laughable... but to mands? You are a fucking retard. By all means- keep it up. I haven't had a target lately. You will do just fine.
Bighead101
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Lol, I'm now following this thread. Should be entertaining. I can't stand when people jump on this board with an attitude and sense of entitlement.
Yes please use smaller words! I don't get it. Please explain for a incompetent individual like myself.
You have know gone from saying the FDA will allow generics to be within 50% of the label claims. I called you out and you back peddled and said you were writing in another thread. Lol
Them posted an article that clearly states nothing about the actual drug involved by bioavailability of that drug and what the FDA will except.
Now you are saying we have to hold UGls accountable for their shitty hear and to give newbies our sources on a non source board. This is comical to say the least.
I don't care if you are married to the secretary of state and what degree you might have. Degrees are a dime a dozen and I have one myself. Not sure what your chemistry degree has to do with your comprehension of this article or orange book. Obviously not a damn thing.
Hey if I'm wrong and I've known to be once or twice. I will clearly apologize for my misrepresentation of the FDA claims in Orange Book.
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dlastmohican
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mands, how do you make it this long on a board without reading? I am not your dad so do not expect me to keep repeating what I have said. The FDA claims are not private knowledge. Do you dispute that the FDA considers "significant difference" to be up to 20%? Yes or no? Man up.. yes or no?
Are you trying to say that if you have a difference of up to 20% that this is negligible?
Since when does what is published in the orange book look at daily production of generics? It would have to do this if it were to do what you seem to be implying it does. The deviation of a generic or even a name brand drug while being produced occurs during production. It can deviate without immediate detection. Have you ever worked in a FDA approved pharmaceutical lab, which mass produces various pharmaceuticals around the clock? yes? no? If you haven't, your just another wannabee expert if your trying to lecture us on the infalliable dependability and reliability of script grade drugs.
Here is the orange book for those of you curious
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DevelopmentApprovalProcess/UCM071436.pdf
it has nothing to do with the daily production on factory floors.
Simply reading what I have written and comprehending it would go a long way toward understanding what I am saying. Instead, you seem to be reading what you want. You said I had a degree in Chemistry. I never made such a claim. Seriously bro... READ. you cannot care about simple arithmetic, but I wouldn't go engaging in debates with mathematicians if I could not add and subtract. I never said to source on the board. I said PM them sources... stop being an obstruction and start helping the newbies beyond saying all UGLs are crap. At least PM them and point them in the right direction.
If you aren't a source board then why are you allowing sources to advertise, post and market here? Sounds like a source board to me.
Bro, try "hooked on phonics". It will tremendously improve your reading comprehension.
Are you trying to say that if you have a difference of up to 20% that this is negligible?
Since when does what is published in the orange book look at daily production of generics? It would have to do this if it were to do what you seem to be implying it does. The deviation of a generic or even a name brand drug while being produced occurs during production. It can deviate without immediate detection. Have you ever worked in a FDA approved pharmaceutical lab, which mass produces various pharmaceuticals around the clock? yes? no? If you haven't, your just another wannabee expert if your trying to lecture us on the infalliable dependability and reliability of script grade drugs.
Here is the orange book for those of you curious
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DevelopmentApprovalProcess/UCM071436.pdf
it has nothing to do with the daily production on factory floors.
Simply reading what I have written and comprehending it would go a long way toward understanding what I am saying. Instead, you seem to be reading what you want. You said I had a degree in Chemistry. I never made such a claim. Seriously bro... READ. you cannot care about simple arithmetic, but I wouldn't go engaging in debates with mathematicians if I could not add and subtract. I never said to source on the board. I said PM them sources... stop being an obstruction and start helping the newbies beyond saying all UGLs are crap. At least PM them and point them in the right direction.
If you aren't a source board then why are you allowing sources to advertise, post and market here? Sounds like a source board to me.
Bro, try "hooked on phonics". It will tremendously improve your reading comprehension.
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GymRat88
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This is great...and THE WAR BEGINS!
WILL.E.NAYLER
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Fuck yeh I'm in!
What are you going to do to him? Cuss at him through the Keyboard? Make people here not like him? I seriously don't get it, why you guys here think it's ok to fuck with people all the time for no damn reason? If they want a shitty source let them pick it because you greedy fucks aren't giving up your sorry ass sources.
Anyways the child molester Brutus can stfu now and I seriously think he cannot handle the insanity 150, the punk might puke first.
WILL.E.NAYLER
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Oh shit I'm defo in
GymRat88
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DAMN!!! SOMEONE IS ROID RAGING!! LOL SPRING BREAK SPRING BREAK..HAPPY EASTER!! OK I'll shut up now I'm an instigator
I know you all come here trying to prove this is what happens when the forum is not moderated. I have no doubt all this butt hurt people have a homeboard with a different handle. So tough to call members names and troll around with a fake handle. Newsflash this board will still be here when you are done trolling. Freedom of speech is a bitch 
go back to your censored boards
go back to your censored boards
voltron111
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Who's running hammers test p right now. And if you are, do your boners hurt ?
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