OdieM
Banned
Exactly, I must be shill for Astro and shit I just tested some raws from somagenix too. lol Brutus knows what he is saying is BS. He knows more then anyone here how Astro did me but here we are.
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Exactly, I must be shill for Astro and shit I just tested some raws from somagenix too. lol Brutus knows what he is saying is BS. He knows more then anyone here how Astro did me but here we are.
look im friends with both of yall and im gonna let you guys hash it out from here, i wish yall wouldn't though...but hey im one of those dirt road boys, duke it out and shake hands afterwards
Take down profile pics? What the fuck are you talking about? Show me the post- one single post- where I ever gave a shit about a profile pic of yourself. Until then you are a lying sack of shit.
Who here knows you in real life? Dozens of people I respect here have seen my pics and I know plenty of people outside of these forums. Every single person I respect in fact has seen my pics- don't get too butt hurt I wouldn't piss on your dumb ass.
Stop detecting from the issue rep boy. How good is the tren? Hammer time amazing? Smh. You reps are all the same. I look forward to your disappearance tough guy.
Mr. Deltoid
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I'm not jumping on you Tubesox because I think your a good dude as well but we don't know if hammers gear is quality yet.
If you're not a shill, even though you fit all the criteria, your biggest problem is. You always seem to be the loudest dick on the deck, the head cheerleader that needs that the attention you were denied as a child. Any review from you, whether good or bad, I would take with a grain of salt. Your credibility is not just questionable, but worthless.
i was just saying odie's batch was, im not saying anything good or bad about hammer bud
OdieM
Banned
Wow is all I can say. I'm done with the hate. For fuck shakes I am getting pissed on the Internet. Lol. Brutus I'm eatting breakfast at a hoilday inn when I'm done I could show the Members where you asked me to take it down.
Many of yAll know me from SW, EVO and a private board I'm on. Yall know what's up. I test LOTS of UGL gear and review it. Check out the testing section.
Many of yAll know me from SW, EVO and a private board I'm on. Yall know what's up. I test LOTS of UGL gear and review it. Check out the testing section.
Odiem, prove him wrong and stop posting on hammers thread. I am at evo also. You do like him a little too much 
no source is worth going against the community. Hammer may or may not Stick Around for a long time. Should be Without your help. I did the same cheerleading like this for Astro over a year ago. His gear was fire back than.Look where that ended !!!
no source is worth going against the community. Hammer may or may not Stick Around for a long time. Should be Without your help. I did the same cheerleading like this for Astro over a year ago. His gear was fire back than.Look where that ended !!!
OdieM
Banned
Odiem, prove him wrong and stop posting on hammers thread. I am at evo also. You do like him a little too much
Understood. I won't even post my blood work here. I am only here now to combat the lies being told
Johnson513
New Member
I hear you brother, he is just excited... But it gets to a point where after a couple of statements about a source, enough is enough.
I'm not "taking sides" or whatever, but @Odie, you got a little excessive on the pro hammer comments... Do you not see that?? I hinted at that yesterday when I quoted you in the 24k thread before this whole thing broke out. I'm not tryin to be a caulk sucker, I'm just letting you know what it looks like on the outside. It doesn't look good man, and then I go on EVO and see the same shit going on over there and it just gets nauseating.
I personally don't think you're getting a kickback from Hammer, but it's this kind of excessive cheerleading that is frowned upon in a pro-member mindset as opposed to a pro-source mindset. I'm personally shocked that the "number of supporting WKMs" you spoke to last night, not one of them said, stand down tiger...
Why do you think members like Colt, Vol, B79, Dmt, BB, JB, Marcus, IW, WCUp, CBS, HDog, Myth, FWOut, Bick, even your close friend BM... I can keep going... Why don't we find these members stating multiple comments complimenting sources??? Please ask yourself that...
Sometimes when we are too close on an issue we can't see the big picture... We just need to take a couple steps back so we can see whats actually goin on.
OdieM
Banned
Understood, and the members that Pmed me last night told me exactly what you just said. Thats not me though. When someone comes at me like you are, then I 100% respect that and it puts things in perspective. But when the Meso key board warrior comes out with his lies then we've got a war.lol Yes I was excited, I had just been screwed out of a G from astro.
Like I said, I will not post another review on Hammer. Even when I get my blood work back and its low, like we all know it will be. I won't post it, even though I could save many of my brothers from ordering from him.
post your bloodwork in another thread...in the lab testing section...If it were me i'd just unfollow this thread
Johnson513
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IMO, that's missing the point. Trust me, I write books on an all or nothing mentality, but finding a spot in-between would be most productive, no?
I would just assume the goal would be to post info, a review, or whatever, and then DROP IT... Just a thought
johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
I like you Odie and I'm not about to jump in the middle of this but please drop the whole pic thing.. Brutus doesn't need me to say this for him but he's a big dude and he's cloaked in tattoos, he's not posting pics.. You keep talking about your pics too, what does anyone's pics have to do with this?!
Nobody is saying not to post your bloodwork, don't handle this like you're butthurt man.. Just stop with the constant updates in the thread, start a log if you want.. And for fuck sakes stop hating on mine!!
Johnson gave you some great advice..
OdieM
Banned
I like you Odie and I'm not about to jump in the middle of this but please drop the whole pic thing.. Brutus doesn't need me to say this for him but he's a big dude and he's cloaked in tattoos, he's not posting pics.. You keep talking about your pics too, what does anyone's pics have to do with this?!
Nobody is saying not to post your bloodwork, don't handle this like you're butthurt man.. Just stop with the constant updates in the thread, start a log if you want.. And for fuck sakes stop hating on mine!!
Johnson gave you some great advice..
Alright Johnny. I have nothing but respect for you. It's not that I'm butt hurt. It's the fact that what if for some reason my blood work came back good. If I posted that I would get pulled right back in this. We all no that no UGL labs has good blood work coming back though. Thanks for your input
Haha I'm not hating on yours. I actually learned a lot. I am breaking records in the gym and it's because of tips I picked up on your log.
Just playing catch up here, but Odie. I'll add that Brutus sent a few of us his progress pics from his log and dude is straight beast. We've all been where you are regarding excitement for a source we "think" is awesome. It always turns out the same. I'd take it as a compliment if you are NOT shilling in that you have enough of a rep here to influence people. Brutus is just looking out for the community because you definitely are coming off pretty strong pro Hammer. You've said your piece, I'd just lay off a little while and keep doing a good job posting bloods and LM. Hammer will turn out how he turns out. You don't want to be the persuading vote for a bunch of newbs who end up getting burnt. It's not a good feeling...
Here's the thing: You've only been here for three months and already posted your way to "well-known member." Personally, I don't care about that because I know WKM doesn't mean anything. However, what does mean something is your reputation, and how well WE know you. Building a reputation when posting under an alias takes time. Getting to know who you are takes time. And getting to Know Meso takes time.
Once you've been on Meso for a while, you'll see that it's constantly changing. It's just not possible to 'know' the forum to any significant degree without the perspective of time. In order to understand why Meso is the way it is today, you need to know from where it came. You need to have watched it evolve and change over time. In order to understand why members are the way they are, you need to have seen the scams play out. You need to have seen the former members who were considered "trustworthy" that turned out to be on the take. You simply can't gain that perspective by posting a lot.
Your Hammer posts unquestionably amount to cheerleading. Brutus' post quoting your cheerleading was pretty damning and should have given you pause. The fact that this is the second time you've been involved in controversy over a source suggests that you don't understand how this forum works yet. And because you're still relatively unknown, your eagerness to cheer lead for sources has lead others to believe that you are possibly the kind of member who comes to Meso trying to fill their pockets. That may or may not be true, but your posts are all we have to go on.
You calling out Brutus over pics also shows your inexperience. Aside from the fact that Brutus' pics have no bearing on whether or not you are a rep, if you had been here for more than a few weeks, you would know that Brutus once used his pic as an avatar, however, he chose to remove it when it became clear that it could endanger him and his family. You see, there were certain characteristics in the pic that could identify him and, unfortunately, there is no shortage of hateful and vindictive psychopaths on these forums that WOULD love to use that information against someone.
Regarding Hammer, a high post count and WKM might not mean much to us, but it does to noobs. Noobs look at that WKM status and 1000 post count and all they see is a vet. They don't even notice join date. Hammer was dead in the water until you ordered. That was all it took to make noobs feel secure about ordering, and that's what Hammer desperately needed to gain a foothold on Meso. This is a start-up source that has admitted he has NO lab data on his gear and NO references. That should have spelled the end of him here. But the very fact that a WKM ordered gave him instant credibility and now the orders are rolling in. If Hammer turns scammer - which he almost certainly will - you're going to have to live with the fact that it was you who opened Meso's door for him.
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OdieM
Banned
Great post. I understand what I have done. I have recieved dozens of PM's and told members that I thought it was under dosed and to just wait till I did blood work. I hear what your saying though. We tell members to do their RESEACH before ordering and they should. If they did that then they would know that hammers only been around 2 months and to just wait. Basically we shouldn't have sources here at all is what I'm hearing. Unless they have been around a decade. Even though we saw how that worked out with MS. So we shouldn't have sources at all. Because if one shows up and a WKM orders from them, then we may or may not be setting members up to get scammed.
Members I had just got scammed by one of MESO longest and most respected sources here. I did my research and I still got burned. I ordered from him because of the many good reviews from WKM. I don't wanna be that guy that gets you scammed. I have told many many of yAll that I am done with UGLs after this run. I have resorted to making my own. The reason I did that is because ALL UGL are shit. Check out the testing section. You won't find any lab with good bloods coming back.
And by the way I've been here 5 months. Lol
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2jACkEDciTy
New Member
this guys been getting raw from his "private source for the past 3 years" but now he is just starting up??????????? Unless he was just local before, he is straight up 2 unlegit to 2 quit
double-leg
New Member
I'm not convinced of the shit i get untill i've done bloods. I dont even trust my own judgement. Let alone someone else's. Placebo effect is real.
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