Raspberry420
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Thanks for your responses! I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on this one.
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Anyone else getting gyno from his tren? Wtf?
Jimmyjuices
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@jackmeoff1 I am only one full week in so too early for gyno issues for me. Are you taking prami or caber?
OdieM
Banned
Nope but I never had signs of gyno ever. When I was on his tren my nips did itch for about 3 days but I took some adex and they quit.
OdieM
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Is anyone else planing on having bloods done? I can't believe members on Evo and here arnt having them done. We should have a lot more bloods an data by now
Jimmyjuices
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@OdieM you can take Adex for gyno issues while on Tren? I was under the impression only Caber or prami would clear it up?
OdieM
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Like I said I have never had gyno issues. I had some adex on hand and my nips were itching and it cleared it up or maybe it cleared up on its own, idk. I ran the tren at almost a gram and never had any signs of gyno except for some itchiness for 3 days. I guess I'm lucky or the tren was half dosed.
Jimmyjuices
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Ok got it just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing anything. I have never had gyno issues at all either. This Tren is def underdosed i have never ran it before and im running it at 700 a week now and im feeling ok but from what i have read 700 a week for a first timer should kill you and im in a happy medium.
OdieM
Banned
Sorry to hear that. My story is very similar. I switched to a tren mix from another UGL and it saved my cycle. You should do the same. Even though I know Hammers tren is expesive and it hurts to drop it.
I wouldn't take caber unless it was a last resort. Once you take it your cycle is done
Jimmy,
There is an excellent thread on here that reviews Adex and Nolvadex and how they work. Dr. Scally gave a great description on how Adex will not prevent gyno, it will only reduce the E2 amount thus making it less likely... Nolvadex will prevent the Estrogen gyno but doesn't lower your E2, so you have those bloating sides, etc.... Now for your situation, in progesterone conversion, this can occur when using Tren/Deca and your E2 gets out of control. Adex will work in this situation since it lowers the E2 which is causing the conversion. Caber and Prami are also used for the Progesterone related gyno..
This is a rudimentary overview so check out that thread, it is very detailed and a must read if you are unsure...
Hope this helps,
There is an excellent thread on here that reviews Adex and Nolvadex and how they work. Dr. Scally gave a great description on how Adex will not prevent gyno, it will only reduce the E2 amount thus making it less likely... Nolvadex will prevent the Estrogen gyno but doesn't lower your E2, so you have those bloating sides, etc.... Now for your situation, in progesterone conversion, this can occur when using Tren/Deca and your E2 gets out of control. Adex will work in this situation since it lowers the E2 which is causing the conversion. Caber and Prami are also used for the Progesterone related gyno..
This is a rudimentary overview so check out that thread, it is very detailed and a must read if you are unsure...
Hope this helps,
Jimmyjuices
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@CeymoreButtz thanks man I will def check that out I was some what familiar with ai and SERMS but not that detailed thank you. @OdieM def man I'm running it until I find another good source. It's only a week but still. I'll keep the board posted I told hammer via email I'd rep.him well if it was good but if not I'm ripping on him.
GymRat88
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He doesn't need anyone to Rip on him he does it to himself because his gear is a fucking Joke took my Adrol and I know people saying how it was doesn't matter but I mine as well bought some protein instead at GNC at least I know its going to do something for me...what a waste of time...
OdieM
Banned
Lol did you say GNC? Try bodybuildingdotcom, truenutrition or protienfactory. Please quit going to GNC.
The financial cost of screwing up an entire cycle is greater than the cost of any one individual compound within the cycle, when factoring in the financial cost of ALL compounds in the cycle, additional supps taken with the cycle, food, etc.
And then there is the cost of the wasted time, which is even greater to someone like me who is off cycle as much as I am on cycle. Once you have suppressed your hpta, and then find out your cycle is fucked because some of it was bunk and everthing is out of balance, and you THOUGHT you were on tren for the last 4 weeks, you can't just say "oh well, I'll just extend my cycle another 2 months after this new tren gets here. It absolutely fucking sucks to have to go into pct early, recover, wait long enough, and then start again. My time on is extremely valuable to me, as it is finite.
For those of us who cycle with at least equal amounts of time on and off, if not MORE time off than on, it is critical that we maximize our time on.
Using bunk compounds carries a much higher cost than the couple hundo in bad tren you sent your source!
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GymRat88
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Lol Yea they are over priced I'm just saying hammer charges a ton for BUNK gear I'm sorry UNDERDOSED gear...but yes ODIE I will deft try that...
His prices kill me. Specially for a lab that onyly started 3 months ago. pretty pathetic he has turned to shit so fast.
its pretty funny how all of these new sponsors get bashed yet theyre making a killing off custoners lol
There is no shortage of customers anywhere. Check out instagram if you really want a good laugh.
But caber and parmi block prolactin conversion, not progesterone
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