Has anyone used Raloxifene for gyno with success? Any had gyno surgery?

....The fact is AIs even at traditional doses only result in a 50-70% reduction of E-2 in otherwise normal adult males.

However let's supplement a moderate amount of TT, like 500mg/wk, (10 times the normal adult weekly secretion) and the task of "crashing E-2 becomes a relative non-sequitur.....

100% agree with this. However i feel that when exogenous testosterone is not present to increase TT/aromatase enzyme and baseline is once again achieved, the risk of "crashing" E2 increases with the addition of an AI.
 
Yes, I am not on trt. I will post my newest labs on Thursday, it's a full hormone panel.

It may be placebo, but this is the second day on nolva and my nipple feels less sore
 
So I went to the doctor today
Prolactin 14.3
Hcg less than 1
Lh 5.0
Tt 441
Free test 8.9

They are all within normal range.

He would not prescribee nolva or raloxifene because my levels are normal, and basically he didn't even know what the medication was.

The only option he said is surgery.

So now, I am just going to continue with my nolva therapy and hope that it helps.

I guess when I cycle again, I will just keep my ai dose relatively high to make sure I don't have an issue.

However, the gyno is described as mild glandularfibrous so I am not sure if it can be fixed anyways

@Dr JIM do you think if I can a low dose tren and low test cycle and kept my arimidex at between .5-1mg a week end it would exasperate the gyno? Maybe suggest a non aromatizing cycle?
 
I'm not sure why you want to cycle so soon when your in pain from the gyno lump. I'm not trying to be an ass here just being realistic. You could end up with another bad flare. If my memory serves me correctly you used Tren, then the lump came around? With that said, If I were you I'd steer clear from the progesterone compounds, their a bit more involved to control the pathways that lead to prog gyno if you're prone to them. I would keep it simple, hormones that could be controlled by arimidex or similar AI. Chemicals such as Test, Tbol, Dbol, Eq, that can only aromatize one path. Maybe experiment with anavar and winstrol too. I also wouldn't stack no more than 2 in case shit hits the fan you have a better chance to pin point the problem. I'd also stay on top of blood work mid cycle and when you come off. Best of luck with whatever you decide bud.
 
Go to an Endo. Don't trust a generalist on a specific topic. It's like asking a personal trainer what type of diet to be on. Most have the "idea", but don't really have any education to back their claims.

*Yes, first post... Been lurking.*


Test is low, prolactin is high. (You will be prescribed meds from some docs.)
 
I thought my prolactin was high end of normal. I'll go to an endo and see what I should be doing

Btw, I only did one shot of the tren. This is when the lump present. I didn't do anything as far as an AI because I only did one shot. I think that is what fucked me.

Lump is still there and still hurts like hell 1.5 weeKS into nolva therapy
 
I am really going to look into this as well. I have gyno but I just got an AI from my doctor and it seems to be reversing it(2 weeks in). Taking .5 mg one day and 1 mg the next and continuing the pattern. It hurts like a mofo when touched and I think I am going to see in a anti prolactin or something can be prescribed so It can be done for will keep posting as it goes along. My prolactin was high before steroids. My estro rose while on steroids. ALOT.
 
Which thread are we taking about?@redrum720

Also, do I need a recommendation from my doc to see an endo or can I just call up one and set and appointment?
 
Which thread are we taking about?@redrum720

Also, do I need a recommendation from my doc to see an endo or can I just call up one and set and appointment?
That all depends on your health insurance. Some will require a referral, others won't. Just call the number on your card and ask a rep
 
Actually my Raloxifene hasn't arrived yet. Not sure if I should list what I did because it was a bit extreme. Oh fuck it. 40mg in the morning and 20mg at night of nolva, 1mg of Adex EOD and I got to digging in my safe the other night and found a few blister packs of letro. I ended up taking 2mg one night a few days ago. The letro was probably completely unnecessary but it might have been the reason that it dissipated in a weeks time.

I'm saying to try it this is what worked for him
 
I believe Doc is right. If your not on cycle then I wouldn't even think about taking Adex. I was lucky and got aggressive with mine the first week my gyno popped up. I had learned from a previous cycle to not pussy foot around or I would be fighting it for months. I'm not sure exactly how long you've had it but that plays a role in how you need to treat it
 
I have had it for a 4 months now, but just recently it started hurting really bad and seems to have gotten bigger. It's been like this for probably 2.5 months.

Do you think a steady 20mg dose of nolva would be better than 40mg or even 60. I am feeling that I am running out of options
 
I have had it for a 4 months now, but just recently it started hurting really bad and seems to have gotten bigger. It's been like this for probably 2.5 months.

Do you think a steady 20mg dose of nolva would be better than 40mg or even 60. I am feeling that I am running out of options

If you've been on the nolva longer than a week then just keep it at 20mg daily. It can take a while but nolva has been shown to reverse pubertal gyno years later down the road. It's your best bet excluding surgery.
 

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