Has anyone used Raloxifene for gyno with success? Any had gyno surgery?

[Nitrust]

Haha hell no. I'm in the middle of a tren cycle, and I have been battling the gyno the entire cycle. My bw should be in today so

I have been taking 20mg nolva ed on cycle, not sure of its helping at all

 

[ShredMN]

Go to an Endo. Don't trust a generalist on a specific topic. It's like asking a personal trainer what type of diet to be on. Most have the "idea", but don't really have any education to back their claims.

*Yes, first post... Been lurking.*


Test is low, prolactin is high. (You will be prescribed meds from some docs.)

My experience with endos is that they do not know shit, and you're probably better off anonymously getting lab work and then submitting it here for our knowledgeable members to use.

An endo once told me my testosterone levels were fine because they were in the "normal range." After a little bit of research I discovered they were in a normal range, normal for a 95 year old diabetic... Doctors can't seriously analyze results when it comes to hormones, they can only read in between a "range."

 

[Trapmonster]

For what it's worth mr. Presidentcare fully covered my gyno surgery because the pain interfered with my quality of life. It would hurt even just lightly rubbing or pushing, no to mention when hit. It seemed like they wanted to talk me out of it with all these negative "possibilities" it could result in. One con I have is I had scar tissue build up on my left chest under the nipple area that has an edema and makes my nipple and sometimes left arm go numb. I'm currently in the process of getting it revised but presidentcare requires approval for everything. But other than that, it looks better and was fully covered by insurance

 

[Trapmonster]

It was regular surgeon that did it through pcp referral not plastic surgery

 

[OdieM]

I have been taking 20mg nolva ed on cycle, not sure of its helping at all

That's probably cause you went with a UGL for your Nolva.

 

[Nitrust]

That's probably cause you went with a UGL for your Nolva.

Negative

I am using Indian pharm nolva from reliable rx

 

[OdieM]

Negative

I am using Indian pharm nolva from reliable rx

But your AI came from 24k or whatever that UGL name is. Sorry I'm busting your balls a bit but it blows my mind that you started a thread asking for gyno help and then run a cycle and not use a pharmaceutical AI.

 

[Manamana]

But your AI came from 24k or whatever that UGL name is. Sorry I'm busting your balls a bit but it blows my mind that you started a thread asking for gyno help and then run a cycle and not use a pharmaceutical AI.

If it was 24k he doesn't have UGL anastrozole. Only pharma grade.

 

[cdoubleu]

Anyone used ralox for gyno, or had gyno surgery. I need insight. Any info is welcomed.

I will be having gyno surgery in the next fews months when I can find a time that I am able to take the recovery. I have seen the surgeon and he has a really good track record. I will let you know how it goes.

From your pics you sure dont look like your in a situation where you would need surgery. Hopefully that nolva works for you so you stay that way.

 

[Nitrust]

But your AI came from 24k or whatever that UGL name is. Sorry I'm busting your balls a bit but it blows my mind that you started a thread asking for gyno help and then run a cycle and not use a pharmaceutical AI.

What do mean? Every ancillary and support drug I use Is pharma.

The arimidex is USA FDA
The nolva is Indian pharma

The clomid I have is Indian pharms

The hcg is pharma

I don't know where you keep getting the idea that I used UGL ancillary drugs

 

[OdieM]

What do mean? Every ancillary and support drug I use Is pharma.

The arimidex is USA FDA
The nolva is Indian pharma

The clomid I have is Indian pharms

The hcg is pharma

I don't know where you keep getting the idea that I used UGL ancillary drugs

Cause you said you bought your Adex from 24K numerous times. Pretty sure he is a UGL. Whether he has Pharma stuff I have no idea but none the less he's a UGL.

Guess I'm just still pissy that you tried to score FREE GEAR from me and the whole community by telling all of us a BULL SHIT story.

 

[Nitrust]

What when? I never tried to score any free gear from you or anyone else?
I'm not exactly sure what your talking about?

I said multiple times I got the adex from 24k, but it's pharm?

 

[MR10X]

100% agree with this. However i feel that when exogenous testosterone is not present to increase TT/aromatase enzyme and baseline is once again achieved, the risk of "crashing" E2 increases with the addition of an AI.

heres a study of healty normal males not on AAS taking up to 1mg a day of adex and it only reduces it about 50%..Doc Jim is correct

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.7.6676

 

[Northern Nutrition]

heres a study of healty normal males not on AAS taking up to 1mg a day of adex and it only reduces it about 50%..Doc Jim is correct

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.7.6676

I dont think you understood what Jim and I were saying. Read the thread again.

 

[MR10X]

quote..100% agree with this. However i feel that when exogenous testosterone is not present to increase TT/aromatase enzyme and baseline is once again achieved, the risk of "crashing" E2 increases with the addition of an AI...
These men in the study did not use exogenous testosterone,so i dont know what your talking about...their E2 did not crash and their TT increased

to quote Dr Jim"Is it surprising the notion AI use in males will "crash" ones E-2 level if your "not careful", are almost always derived from AAS forums rather than being literature based?"

 

[T_verde77]

I have had gyno surgery and the the recovery is fuking horrible!!!! straight drains tubes coming out of your arm pits into little bottles ,that fill with puss and blood ,on your side that are attached to a compression vest that is fuking uncomfortable. O and u have to sleep sitting up for 3-4weeks!!!!

I'm not expert but at this point I think there is only so much u can do and I don't think it will completely go away because it has been so long. I would try everything though before surgery.

was it worth it? Fuk ya who wants a nice set of a cups

But I'd rather get some serious road rash again than go through gyno surgery.

most good insurances will cover the cost of a shitty surgeon. and when I say shitty I mean very little time/experience performing this surgery. The places my insurance would cover only performed the surgery like 1 every 6 months or so, My dr did it almost everyday.

I paid 8k out of pocket to go to the best surgeon on the west coast for gyno surgery. check out dr Delgado in the Bay Area if u end up having to do it. Good luck but who knows u may look good with a nice pair of tits haha jk.